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[05:29] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:29] SIbot11 (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:52] New position from 03SA6BSS-8 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6BSS-8 [07:29] SA6BSS-Mike: omg getting the neck lift on those balloons right is a PITA [07:29] no, not realy [07:29] i mean [07:29] just use a 0,1gram scale and tape ahook on top [07:30] trying to get two balloons equal [07:30] it can be a bit timeconsuming [07:30] got there in the end : https://photos.app.goo.gl/9DAsbo363dTk7sUT7 [07:30] https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xq3jKWC6nvCaUXnA8 [07:31] yes! thats exactly how Im doing it :) [07:31] i ended up putting the entire payload on top of the scale, and doing a direct measurement of the free lift [07:31] zeroed out the clips im using, and put a tiny bit of velcro on the payload so it sticks to the scales [07:31] i put too much gas in the balloon so had to tip upside down [07:31] and watch the scale as it leaked out [07:31] you dont need any isolation (fyi) just let it fly naked :) [07:31] this isnt your payload, this is a RS41 :P [07:31] use a starv and suck out the HE [07:32] starv? [07:32] :) [07:32] straw [07:32] oh lol [07:32] i have a bunch of 6mm clear tube im using [07:32] you can see it on the table [07:32] my dining room table [07:32] which is currently covered in balloons [07:32] (i am ok with this) [07:33] do the balloons look about right? [07:33] also how do you tie off to the balloons nicely? [07:33] hang on I have just hooked up netgear r7000 for jtag.... [07:33] anothe rquestion: how sensitive are the balloons to handling? [07:33] i was a bit... rough in doing this experiment [07:35] also the warm iron sealing solution works great, i tried it out on a cut off bit of neck and it was easy [07:35] "fly naked", "i was a bit rough" we're still talking balloons? :-) [07:35] ON3JT: don't kink shame [07:35] :P [07:36] but yes, balloons [07:36] im trying out this pico balloon lark... with a 50g paylod [07:36] (lol) [07:36] the balloons are quite sturdy, never manage to burst one on flight no mather how I handeled them [07:36] ok [07:36] well [07:36] make the legs 507 cm each [07:37] when the weather is not shit, ill try and launch a RS41 and see if/where it floats [07:37] yeah launching your payload comes later :P [07:37] once i figure out WTF im doing here [07:37] top one should have a support line of fishingline as light you can find, im using 0,07mm [07:37] well, note the 507cm , thats importent [07:37] yep [07:38] i cant launch your payload until i have solar panels anyway [07:38] and they are probably a month away [07:38] so im going to practice with some RS41s first [07:38] id live to float one all the way interstate [07:38] I make a loop of the fishingline , folding the bottom sealing and iron a fold in which I put the loop [07:38] love* [07:38] one small drop of superglue [07:38] and a couple of small tapes holding it [07:39] hmm all that subtracks from the neck lift [07:39] what ascent rate do you generally end up with? [07:39] 'slow' [07:39] ON3JT43 (6d819e79@109.129.158.121) joined #highaltitude. [07:39] you can ad 0,1 gram for clue and tapes [07:39] *glue [07:39] 0.8-1m/s [07:40] it not linear [07:40] but you know it correct if you get about 600m in 10min [07:40] ok [07:40] in the span 3000-8000m [07:49] Lahti (~Lahti@dy588tjv8kwrbmv8z2nhy-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) joined #highaltitude. [07:51] blb4393 (~chatzilla@dynamic-046-114-093-033.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) joined #highaltitude. [07:51] New vehicle on the map: 03F1TKE_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F1TKE_chase [08:01] ON3JT43 (6d819e79@109.129.158.121) left irc: Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) [08:16] New position from 03WB6TOU-13 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB6TOU-13 [08:19] New position from 03KD2KDD-15 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2KDD-15 [08:20] New position from 03AB5SS-12 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-12 [08:42] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.100.112.132) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:52] blb4393 (~chatzilla@dynamic-046-114-093-033.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Waterfox 56.3/MOZ_BUILDID] [08:53] New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11 [09:02] buttim (~buttim@host-82-60-137-104.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #highaltitude. [09:19] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [09:48] Chrischan (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #highaltitude. [09:57] buttim (~buttim@host-82-60-137-104.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:16] New vehicle on the map: 03BZ-TTGO-L - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-TTGO-L [10:17] hello [10:17] Good morning [10:49] so yep, RS41 can run off 1xAA [10:49] if you bypass all the power switch crap [10:50] i suspect it wont run for all that long, but it will run [10:50] https://photos.app.goo.gl/nSRbiVbZT4QTj4FeA [10:52] i'm guessing someon eelse has tried this before [10:54] Tried yes, succesful ? no... [10:55] ahh [10:55] No stepup at all ? [10:55] well, im feeding the battery direct into the input of the TPS61200 [10:55] which *is* a stepup [10:55] Smart :-) [10:55] ive bypassed all the input stuff, which has the potential to result in voltage drop before the stepup [10:55] so maybe that will work better? [10:56] it was running down to 1V [10:56] How many hours ? [10:56] uhhh [10:56] yeah dunno yet lol [10:56] i was just going to throw one up and see what happens [10:56] Balloons are ready :-) [10:56] https://photos.app.goo.gl/x54geL8CUMat9Z43A [10:57] if it lasts long enough to see if those get into a float then i'd be happy [10:57] its too gusty to launch anything at the moment though [10:57] 24 gram total ? [10:58] 34g [10:58] 6100 m :-) [10:58] including bubble wrap and string [10:59] aha you've done this before :P [10:59] What do you wear now ? [10:59] none of your business :P [10:59] This adds to the ¨rough handling¨ part ;-) [11:00] Over here we are expecting ¨a lot of snow¨ so I placed my LoRa barometer out on the roof in a microwave bowl. [11:01] so you've done al aunch with these balloons? [11:01] Yes [11:01] nice [11:01] i figure this has all been done before [11:01] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yyuppslpazsnuvqc) joined #highaltitude. [11:02] with 60 gram, 4500 m, with 45 gram. 5300 m, and 0 meter when the balloon touced the guitar wire GPS antenna string. [11:02] haha [11:02] was that with two balloons? [11:02] Happysat flew to the UK with 6 small party number balloons. [11:03] Yes. wspr goes with 1 balloon, RS41 I usually use 2, either Chinese or qualatex / grabo foil. The clear balloons keep their altitude better over night as silver / gold do [11:04] ok [11:04] i may try a launch with a full-size RS41 (2xAAs) and a long gap between transmissions [11:04] go for it :-) hope the wind calms down [11:05] Action: PE2BZ is grabbing an RS41 and looking for the magical 1.5 V point. [11:06] i've sealed up those balloons, so i kind of have to launch them now lol [11:07] New position from 034FSKTEST after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST [11:18] PE2BZ: https://photos.app.goo.gl/uK7EeiN9Mua33RaKA [11:20] hmm [11:20] so maybe something isnt quit right [11:20] it stopped transmitting after a bit [11:21] or maybe i bumped something [11:28] New position from 03W5KUB-24 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-24 [11:31] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [11:35] Bernd_DL1XH2 (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Bernd_DL1XH2 [11:36] Bernd_DL1XH (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [12:13] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.100.112.132) joined #highaltitude. [12:16] New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK [12:24] New position from 03DL1XH-4FSK after 039 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1XH-4FSK [12:51] Bernd_DL1XH2 (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [12:53] Chrischan2 (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #highaltitude. [12:53] Bernd_DL1XH (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:53] Chrischan (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:56] Bernd_DL1XH2 (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [13:00] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:02] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [13:14] Bernd_DL1XH (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc3a18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [13:38] OZ1SKY_Brian (~OZ1SKY@5.186.79.28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) joined #highaltitude. [13:49] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yyuppslpazsnuvqc) left irc: [13:57] New position from 03N6RRY-11 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N6RRY-11 [14:13] blb4393 (~chatzilla@dynamic-046-114-095-251.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) joined #highaltitude. [14:19] Darkside, running 2 hours now on one used battery :-) 5 min interval, powersave enabled with beeps every 30 seconds [14:20] @darkside What does the chasemapper "Mark Recovered" button do? where is that list recorded? [14:21] happysat (~katpoep@unaffiliated/happysat) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:28] brrhh could outside, had to take the mast down, burde the preamp the other day, but was lucky it was only a cap that i could solder back in. [14:28] burde=burned [14:29] happysat (~katpoep@unaffiliated/happysat) joined #highaltitude. [14:39] yep, coold , - 18 last night! [14:39] g7gpr: looking at the source: posted to habitat.habhub.org https://github.com/projecthorus/chasemapper/blob/master/horusmapper.py#L685 https://github.com/projecthorus/chasemapper/blob/master/chasemapper/habitat.py#L84 [14:40] tjena, not that cold here. put too much power into the 70cm preamp the other day, so my own fault. but looks like its working again. [14:40] cool! [14:41] was trying to work vk4eme, and didnt think about the power limits of the preamp :-) [14:42] better start looking for another preamp that can handle the power. [15:06] New position from 03W3UAV-15 after 0321 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3UAV-15 [15:22] happysat (~katpoep@unaffiliated/happysat) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:26] happysat (~katpoep@unaffiliated/happysat) joined #highaltitude. [15:31] PC4L_hab (~PC4L-Marc@host-4sl28h.gs1.zeelandnet.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] HotaruT : Yes - I see that, but I wonder, where does it show up in Habhub? [15:52] g7gpr: after looking around for half an hour.. I still can not answer that. Do you know a sonde which was 'Mark Recovered'? [15:53] S3010105 [15:53] It is on my desk... [15:57] Thank you for looking. [16:04] New vehicle on the map: 03KN4JLK-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KN4JLK-11 [17:03] g7gpr: digging deeper, something feels off. static/js/tables.js line 38, inits _recovery_data my_call, payload_call, recovery_title: sonde-call " recovered by " chase-call, position, message. title and message can be edited, but edited title goes into "title" instead of "recovery_title" and this variable is not used anymore. neither is my_call or payload_call. data is then sent to habitat couchdb: [17:03] initListenerCallsign stores a "listener_information" with callsign "S3010105 recovered by G7GPR", antenna "Recovered at 2021-02-06 06:35Z", and "radio" set to your message.. which was empty? .. the position gets posted by uploadListenerPosition into listener_telemetry .. with the same callsing, chase=false, and lat/lon/alt info [17:04] g7gpr: short: there is your data: http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/1bba1c6a65a5f58f0ac5d0c8a77bc3f1 and http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/1bba1c6a65a5f58f0ac5d0c8a77bbbf3 [17:07] OK - thank you. [17:07] ... currently in the couchdb there are 69 recoveries, 64 different sondes, by 14 different callsigns. [17:08] OK - so some have been recovered twice... [17:08] I think this is not working as intended, or just unfinished. I could not find this info anywhere else then quering the couchdb directly [17:10] How do you "use" couchDb - or is there any docs? [17:10] https://habitat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/database.html [17:14] inspired by https://github.com/philcrump/habrotate/blob/master/cli/habrotate-cli.py#L64 I just made a wget on http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/listener_information/_view/time_created_callsign and got thrown 52 MB of data. grep on recovered and got your recovery as last entry. use the id to construct the document link above. quering listener_telemetry after some tries with [17:14] http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/listener_telemetry/_view/callsign_time_created?startkey=[%22S3010105%20recovered%20by%20G7GPR%22]&endkey=[%22S3010105%20recovered%20by%20G7GPR%22,[]]&include_docs=True and got the location [17:15] [maybe I should note.. I think it is my first time quering a couchdb] [17:19] Chrischan (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #highaltitude. [17:20] Chrischan2 (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:21] Matt|home (~matt@adsl-74-233-58-6.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:21] Matt|home (~matt@adsl-74-233-58-6.mia.bellsouth.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:23] and yay for all of it being opensource that someone can actually anwser the question "what does this button do?" in exhaustive detail (: [17:31] Kodar (~Kodar@93-139-180-60.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined #highaltitude. [18:04] SA6BSS-Mike1 (~SA6BSS-Mi@h-177-81.A357.priv.bahnhof.se) joined #highaltitude. [18:08] SA6BSS-Mike (~SA6BSS-Mi@h-177-81.A357.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:09] let is snow lol https://imgur.com/sg6Uqwg [18:16] HotaruT: g7gpr: it does appear on the map https://stuff.dbrooke.me.uk/sp-CSikwq.png [18:23] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-9 [18:23] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-14 [18:40] New vehicle on the map: 03CC4XYZ - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CC4XYZ [18:40] blb4393 (~chatzilla@dynamic-046-114-095-251.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Waterfox 56.3/MOZ_BUILDID] [18:56] PC4L (~PC4L-Marc@host-4sl28h.gs1.zeelandnet.nl) joined #highaltitude. [19:09] New position from 03PS-80 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80 [19:10] dbrooke: oha... [19:15] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-13 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-13 [19:21] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-3 [19:26] SebastianFlyte (~sebf@pool-173-79-119-80.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:29] I agree, being open source is very helpful. [19:30] New position from 03K4UAH-4 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4UAH-4 [19:39] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-10 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-10 [19:39] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-11 [19:47] SebastianFlyte (~sebf@pool-173-79-119-80.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined #highaltitude. [19:56] New position from 034FSKTEST after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4FSKTEST [20:25] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in [20:25] Guest28571 (~Hallcyon@122.199.46.116) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:26] Hallcyon (~Hallcyon@89nnjg0xckz9ggn6r5xm.ip6.superloop.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:34] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-4 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-4 [20:35] New vehicle on the map: 03KD0AWK-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0AWK-2 [20:46] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) joined #highaltitude. [20:48] Laurenceb (~laurence@6.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:57] New vehicle on the map: 03KD9PII_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9PII_chase [21:01] murb (~murb@an.der.schoenen.blauen.danu.be) left irc: Quit: gone [21:03] WAW (18088513@c-24-8-133-19.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. 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[22:07] murb (~murb@an.der.schoenen.blauen.danu.be) left irc: Quit: gone [22:12] Lahti (~Lahti@dy588tjv8kwrbmv8z2nhy-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lähdössä [22:14] OZ1SKY_Brian (~OZ1SKY@5.186.79.28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:18] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in [22:39] Chrischan (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de [22:48] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:8b0:b66:4278:e037:f870:114e:5b05) joined #highaltitude. [22:49] Jasperw (jasperw@2001:8b0:b66:4278:e037:f870:114e:5b05) left #highaltitude. [23:17] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) joined #highaltitude. [23:35] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [23:45] murb (~murb@an.der.schoenen.blauen.danu.be) joined #highaltitude. [23:59] Kodar (~Kodar@93-139-180-60.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:00] --- Sun Feb 7 2021