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[03:55] tweetBot1 (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:55] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [04:50] Laurenceb (~laurence@48.200.208.46.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:40] New position from 03PA3FNT-LORA after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PA3FNT-LORA [06:49] PC4L: gm, just a q. did you remove or rebuild the lpf in the rfm98? or did you run the board at 144 with the 434 filter in place ? [06:49] (thats would explain the low signal) [06:51] hmm, i thought the RFM98W has a low-pass filter, nt a bandpass? [06:51] ether way, same impact on the transmitted signal [06:54] hmm [06:54] last i played with moving one down that low, the issue was more the second harmonic :/ [07:47] Lahti (~Lahti@dyvygy6-5br8t8q7wh4py-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) joined #highaltitude. [07:58] New position from 03W5KUB-22 after 0316 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5KUB-22 [08:09] New position from 03RSIST after 037 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RSIST [08:16] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.100.112.132) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:21] Good morning, the RFM module used is this one https://photos.app.goo.gl/pTws48fs7yNZG5ww9 [08:23] ohh so one actually for that band [08:23] ok, cool, 147/169 Mhz one, didnt know they existed [08:25] PC4L did locate some , just to try. Antenna was 50 cm wire to antenna, no ¨ground plane¨ wire [08:25] thats the problem then! [08:25] it was superweak on all the web sdrs [08:25] even within the "green" [08:26] humm i need to write some code to fo 4FSK on a RFM98W [08:26] should be doable, it has the same frequecy twiddling registers [08:33] Darkside, any GPS improvement on the rs41 powersave ? [08:35] well powersave mode works now [08:36] the gps needs to have lock before you turn powersave mode on [08:36] so i added that. still need to try out 'deep sleep' again, where i shutdown the gps entirely [08:37] well, as much as is possible via software [08:37] Any idea what it ¨saves¨ in this condition ? [08:38] Would also depend on the interval between transmissions I guess [08:38] i think i can make it keep its almanac and ephemeris [08:41] i'm learning more and more about the ublox 6 chipset as i go... [08:47] cool work guys :) [08:47] trying to learn about lora here [08:50] blehhhhh [08:50] proprietary protocol [08:52] i know [08:53] Geoff-G8DHE-M (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) left irc: Quit: I'm gone please pause the Internet I'll be back shortly ... [08:53] Geoff-G8- (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) left irc: Quit: I'm gone please pause the Internet I'll be back shortly ... [08:53] Geoff-G8DHE_ (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) left irc: Quit: I'm gone please pause the Internet I'll be back shortly ... [08:53] just playing with ttn-stuff [08:57] Geoff-G8DHE-Tab (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:57] Geoff-G8DHE-M (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:57] Geoff-G8DHE (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:25] Lahti (~Lahti@dyvygy6-5br8t8q7wh4py-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lähdössä [09:36] Chrischan (~chrischan@ip5f5aff74.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #highaltitude. [09:38] PE1PSI-1 (~PE1PSI-3@2001:1c05:270b:9f00:4c37:c5bf:3f80:1aad) joined #highaltitude. [09:44] PE2BZ: well i now have it down to 32ma between transmissions [09:44] which is better i guess [09:44] that 32ma is mainly the stm32 busy-waiting... i need to figure out how to make it go into a lower power sleep [09:51] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdzvcpwaeshchwwl) joined #highaltitude. [10:07] Darkside, nice ! That´s from 50 mA down to 32 ma which is quite a saving :-) [10:07] hmm where did you get 50ma from? [10:07] depending on the tx interval about 72 hours for 2 Energizers [10:08] i havent seen it go as low as 50ma unless the gps is put into powersave mode [10:08] New position from 03W4FWD-1 after 03a day silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4FWD-1 [10:08] You did an update where the TX was turned of, that´s the moment I measured 50 mA instead of about 90 ma if i recall right. [10:08] hmm [10:08] i dont think it went that low [10:09] it depends what mode the gps it in [10:09] I had one running 36 hours on 2 Energizers. Do I still have that around somewhere.... [10:10] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.100.112.132) joined #highaltitude. [10:10] well the deep sleep mode seems to be working [10:11] at the moment it wont transmit RTTY and 4FSK in sequence though, so... 4FSK only for now [10:11] :P [10:11] code is in the RS41HUP repo [10:11] I won´t argue about the need of RTTY anymore ;-) [10:12] so anyway, have a lok at the latest code [10:12] Your support with horus-gui proved to be easy enough for the oldtimers. [10:12] you will need to comment out the CONTINUOUS MODE line, uncomment the DEEP_SLEEP line [10:12] then set deep sleep to the sleep time you want [10:13] Action: PE2BZ likes deepsleep between 22:00 and 06 UTC [10:13] urghhhhhh thats painful [10:13] pls no [10:14] anyway would be good if someone else tested this :P [10:16] the behaviour is that when you start up, it will transmit regularly (spacing determined by the TX_DELAY value), until it has a decent GPS lock (6 sats). at which point it will start the deep sleep cycle. during sleep it will send regular pips [10:16] and the end of the sleep cycle, it will start up the GPS and send more regular double-pips until it has a valid position, at which point it will transmit, then shut down again [10:19] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [10:19] Grabbing the hardware atm [10:19] Only 15 left... [10:19] haha [10:20] Closing the airspace did give one rs41 each day extra from over here. [10:21] Just finished calibrating the ppm for a tcxo rtl for wspr on 144 MHz. [10:24] updated some notes in teh config.. [10:24] im not sure deep sleep mode + GPS powersave is a good idea [10:26] suggesting disabling powersave mode when using deep sleep. i suspect the average current draw should still be lower anyway [10:37] New vehicle on the map: 03PE2BZ-4FSK - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PE2BZ-4FSK [10:39] Now I´ll have to wait [10:40] till after the beep :-) [10:40] It beeps ! Nice :-) [10:42] ...... pip [10:42] ................... [10:43] ......... [10:43] pip [10:46] You also beep nicely ;-) [10:46] just before transmissions, yes [10:46] Double bip to anounce TX ? [10:46] double pip is when its trying to get GPS lock [10:46] once it has lock, BEEEEEEEP then transmit [10:47] if it gets lock prior to having 6 sats, it will actually keep transmitting until it has 6 sats, then sleep again [10:48] Noticed that with the rs41 in the window opening. Moved it to the upper floor under the roof and it was asleep before I reached the radio one stair down ;-) [10:48] heh [10:48] so yeah, maybe experiment with differnt sleep times, etc [10:48] see how it goes [10:49] Running on the batteries which it had when recovered by someone. [10:49] Who sent it to me :-) [10:49] Chrischan, something for you to try too ! [10:49] 3 days of rain over here.... Would like to fly one..... [10:50] Hmmmm [10:50] 3 double beeps, then the beeeeeeeep and there it goes ! [10:51] depending on when you grabbed the source, the speed field might be showing pDOP instead [10:51] Might run 2 x 0.75 wire from the bench supply to the sonde.... [10:51] Are there AA batteries which report the current drawn over wifi.... [10:51] check if the lines around line567 in main.c are commented out [10:52] PE2BZ: those might draw more current than the RS41 :D [10:52] Never a dull moment ;-) [10:53] The pdop is commented out. [10:53] ok cool [10:53] i was doing that to figure out what i should set the pDOP fix limits to (i threw up a sonde last night to see what the pDOP values would get to) [10:53] I have this chinese mAh meter which I should put inline. Might happen this evening, I have to work this afternoon for a bit.... [10:56] it woud be interesting to measure the cumulative power draw for sure [10:56] but it would need to be done with a power meter with a fairly fast sample rate i think [10:56] I really like the bips :-) It´s alive and we know it ! [10:57] yup, thats the idea of the bips :-) [10:57] you know its alive, and you know you're tuned in OK [10:59] New position from 03AB5SS-13 after 0320 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AB5SS-13 [10:59] im going to try and send one interstate after im back from christmas, not sure i can float a 100g balloon though, so it might just have to be a realyl slow rise [11:00] I am moving the bench supply to the sonde with the meter together :-) [11:04] i measured 32mA @ 3v when its in sleep mode and not transmitting a bip [11:06] the chines say 29 mA @ 3.09 Volt :-) [11:07] Delta Power Supply wired to the u-USB powered mAh meter wired to the RS41. Kerberos SDR disabled beacause of lack of u-USB cables ;-) [11:08] Count this as started 11:00 UTC [11:08] Action: PE2BZ is using zeusbot log as big notepad [11:09] No beeps between TX, 5 minutes sleep time. deep sleep bips every 10 seconds [11:23] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [12:48] JoHarKey (~UA1ZGK@77.73.139.102) joined #highaltitude. [13:07] Darkside, 68 mAh used in the last 2 hours. Nice :-) [13:12] PE2BZ: I am looking into the config.h now. Would you mind sharing your settings? [13:13] or using the default? [13:21] Sent to you in seperate IRC window [13:23] Thanks! ...struggling with the compiling at the moment [13:52] New position from 03DL1XH-4FSK after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1XH-4FSK [13:56] Pete365 (47507ca9@071-080-124-169.res.spectrum.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:10] Is there a HABHUB user manual? [14:29] Bernd_DL1XH (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc417c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Excess Flood [14:29] Bernd_DL1XH (~Bernd_DL1@p5dfc417c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [14:38] darkside: i am trying your latest release, the habhub website is showing all correct but 108 satellites??? :-) [14:57] Pete365: https://ukhas.org.uk/ [15:02] Pete365 (47507ca9@071-080-124-169.res.spectrum.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:05] Pete365 (47507ca9@071-080-124-169.res.spectrum.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:07] Is there a users manual for Habhub tracking page?? [15:46] Oh, a lot has happened here :) I'm curious what the Darkside has implemented for ideas. 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[20:09] New position from 03PS-80 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-80 [21:03] Lahti (~Lahti@dytkhmtjy3v5-98ml17xy-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lähdössä [21:11] OZ7EMA (~emanuel_@2001:b07:ad4:b747:5db1:8577:ed2a:1f44) left irc: Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz& [21:30] AliceGrove (tygrys@moo.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:32] nickjohnson (sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yzxjfqouiyutfexj) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [21:32] tkerby (sid176660@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cathmjwsrojtnrcc) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [21:32] ewanp_ (sid279080@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yfuelroiuegtmwwr) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [21:32] ewanp_ (sid279080@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gzvobybhrjbeeopf) joined #highaltitude. [21:32] nickjohnson (sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gfhpghqwwkwmouyt) joined #highaltitude. [21:34] tkerby (sid176660@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gixeegnsnsmkyjrq) joined #highaltitude. [21:38] AliceGrove (tygrys@moo.pl) joined #highaltitude. [21:47] New position from 03IDA-4FSK after 035 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IDA-4FSK [21:53] Kodar (~Kodar@93-136-200-237.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined #highaltitude. [22:06] New vehicle on the map: 03Gggggg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Gggggg_chase [22:27] OZ7EMA (~emanuel_@2001:b07:ad4:b747:5db1:8577:ed2a:1f44) joined #highaltitude. [22:36] itsonlyluis_ (~luis@cpc156981-wake10-2-0-cust556.17-1.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:42] OZ7EMA (~emanuel_@2001:b07:ad4:b747:5db1:8577:ed2a:1f44) left irc: Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz& [22:54] Kodar (~Kodar@93-136-200-237.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:07] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com [23:07] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [23:10] thecivvi_ (~thecivvie@86-42-227-98-dynamic.agg7.cdn.mvw-sla.eircom.net) left irc: [23:18] KD4GUB (62fbb42e@c-98-251-180-46.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. 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