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[02:37] Brick (c6f46e48@198.244.110.72) joined #highaltitude. [02:37] hello [02:43] hi [02:46] This room usually this quiet? [02:48] depends on the time of day! [02:48] right now all the UK peeps are asleep [02:48] Ahh fair enough. where are you situated? [02:49] South Australia [02:50] Nice! I've been to Adelaide, Coober Pedy, Kangaroo Island [02:51] where are you located? [02:52] Seattle [02:52] You do HAB launches? [02:53] yep [02:53] out of Adelaide, SA [02:57] nice [02:57] I've really only tagged along helped on one in the past, but now that I got a bit of free time, I am planning one [02:57] tryphe (~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe) joined #highaltitude. [02:57] got most of it lined up, think Ill launch next month [02:59] tryphe__ (~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] Axone (~Axone@lfbn-idf1-1-950-162.w86-238.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.2 - http://znc.in [03:10] Axone (~Axone@lfbn-idf1-1-950-162.w86-238.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #highaltitude. [03:55] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:55] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [04:01] Brick (c6f46e48@198.244.110.72) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:05] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:05] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) joined #highaltitude. [04:19] YO3ICT (~YO3ICT@86.127.138.169) joined #highaltitude. 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[07:56] New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11 [08:18] New vehicle on the map: 03ADRASEC24SWL2401_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ADRASEC24SWL2401_chase [08:20] New vehicle on the map: 03ADRASEC24_SWL-2401_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ADRASEC24_SWL-2401_chase [08:23] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otogusehhptsxxnz) joined #highaltitude. [08:29] what's the smallest size helium cylinder that will work for this? [08:29] kokey that depends mostly on payload weight and balloon size [08:30] I fly wsrp trackers on 90 cm foil balloons, 0,24 m3 fits 4 - 6 flights [08:30] For one 100 gram Hwoyee ballon one balloon gas 0,42 m3 is good for 3 m/s with 120 gram payload [08:31] my gut feel is that i'm more likely to do pico style launches [08:32] New position from 03PB0AHX-4FSK after 038 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PB0AHX-4FSK [08:33] New vehicle on the map: 03HABR-2 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABR-2 [08:34] PE2BZ: oh you mean just the disposable cylinders? [08:35] Pico style (the wspr trackers for me are around 8 gram) on a foil balloon need about 0.03 m3 HE [08:35] interesting, so I guess any reusable over 0.42m3 should be enough for everything I probably want to do [08:36] Yes indeed, the disposable onex. You need a regulator on a HE cylinder with 100 or 200 bar pressure because the balloon is overfilled in seconds. [08:36] kokey, including the failures ;-) [08:36] If you travel to http://www.randomengineering.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Balloons.html [08:36] well, with 'over' I mean as in multiples over [08:37] and set the balloon for any 30 gram type, the gas on 97 %, the payload weight (10 gram for starting) and the ascent rate below 1 m/s you are given the amount of HE needed [08:38] PE2BZ: got somethin ggoing up today? [08:38] so a 10l cylinder sounds like it will be well more than enough, not sure if they come with the right regulator for this [08:38] So for my 10 gram and 1 m/s example I would need 0.042 m3 which I could do 10 flights from a 0,42 disposable. However I tend to overfill and have to release HE after that, so I usually get to 6 balloons [08:39] Over here ( in the Netherlands) the rent cylinders do come without regulator. [08:39] I'm looking at this https://www.shopairproducts.co.uk/product.php?id=14489 [08:40] 2.61 m3 is good for 43 pico flights with 12 gram payload [08:43] do the regulators fit on the rent cylinders? [08:44] Totally depends on cilinder type and regulator model. We once got medical HE and the regulator did not fit. Ater that we contacted the company (the price was 3 times the usual too...) and got that corrected. [08:45] ah ok, I'll have to look at that carefully then [08:45] But for pico balloons I would recommend to start with an amazon 0.42 balloon gas it[ very easy to fill those foil balloons with that [08:46] cool, kids birthdays coming up so want to do some balloons but I thought i'll check if I could hit more than two birds with one balloon [08:46] if I don't have a good plant for a reusable cylinder and a regulator when the first birthday comes, amazon 0.42 it will be [08:47] the 0.42 is cheaper than I remember them being back in 2012 [08:48] I noticed it[ cheaper over here, last time I bought 2 of them for 60 Euro . But it varies, and it pays to have a good look on the www [08:48] thanks for your help! [08:49] YW [08:50] New vehicle on the map: 03F4igg_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4igg_chase [08:52] Darkside, no, next sunday. [08:53] Testing the payload doc gives me a small problem however. Launch is at UTC but no time shows. [08:53] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [09:16] what do you for power on these sub 10 gram payloads? [09:17] Nick change: eor_ -> eor [09:18] solar only [09:18] 6psc of 39x19 usuly works well [09:20] fl_0 (unknown@unaffiliated/fl-0/x-7355575) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:20] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bttoyxoakstrpwgm) joined #highaltitude. [09:21] how much power do you get out of 6 pieces? [09:21] fl_0 (~fl_0@unaffiliated/fl-0/x-7355575) joined #highaltitude. [09:23] depedning on solae angle [09:23] but usuly the boards run to and from about 17° [09:24] if you use a standard gps ca 25mA , 328 4mA and a si5351 or si4060 [09:25] 30mA [09:26] do you add a capacitor or just straight from the cells? [09:27] just traight to the cells, no cap, you can ad a3,3v LDO to keep a bit safer [09:29] *from [09:29] and a couple of smal nF caps on VCC line [09:30] * si5351 or si4060 30-45mA [09:48] Andrew_M0NRD (516e0e3f@cpc140828-nwrk5-2-0-cust574.12-1.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude. [10:26] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otogusehhptsxxnz) got netsplit. [10:26] Aleks (~Aleks@unaffiliated/aleks) got netsplit. [10:26] matb0 (~matb@192.3.163.17) got netsplit. [10:26] sumie-dh (~sumie-dh@s3.virtualbox.cz) got netsplit. [10:32] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otogusehhptsxxnz) returned to #highaltitude. [10:32] Aleks (~Aleks@unaffiliated/aleks) returned to #highaltitude. [10:32] matb0 (~matb@192.3.163.17) returned to #highaltitude. [10:32] sumie-dh (~sumie-dh@s3.virtualbox.cz) returned to #highaltitude. [10:32] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@5.186.79.28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) joined #highaltitude. [10:36] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:59] New position from 03BB10 after 0312 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BB10 [11:16] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [11:16] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bttoyxoakstrpwgm) left irc: [11:27] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [11:58] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:59] snh (~snh@unaffiliated/snh) joined #highaltitude. [12:19] kokey: As you are in the southern hemisphere don't forget your balloons don't go up but down - so you need to fill them with a heavier than air gas. :) [12:50] kokey (~kokey@abacus.netopti.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:50] kokey (~kokey@abacus.netopti.net) joined #highaltitude. [13:11] Andrew_M0NRD (516e0e3f@cpc140828-nwrk5-2-0-cust574.12-1.cable.virginm.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:14] New vehicle on the map: 03F4kkd-11_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4kkd-11_chase [13:40] New vehicle on the map: 03Py5abm_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Py5abm_chase [13:57] New vehicle on the map: 03F0FER_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F0FER_chase [14:07] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlugqttmjotherva) joined #highaltitude. [14:11] New vehicle on the map: 03W4FY-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W4FY-11 [14:11] blb4393 (~chatzilla@x59cc87a3.dyn.telefonica.de) joined #highaltitude. [14:27] DL7AD_TABLET (~DL7AD_TAB@89.244.121.22) joined #highaltitude. [14:40] DL7AD_TABLET (~DL7AD_TAB@89.244.121.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:52] New position from 03KI6RC-12 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6RC-12 [15:37] gb73d (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [15:59] DL7AD_TABLET (~DL7AD_TAB@89.244.121.22) joined #highaltitude. [16:06] matt|home (~matt@unaffiliated/matthome/x-8401877) joined #highaltitude. [16:34] blb4393 (~chatzilla@x59cc87a3.dyn.telefonica.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Waterfox 56.3/MOZ_BUILDID] [16:36] Hiena_away (~boreger@81-93-195-181.ipv4.datatrans.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:39] New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-14 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-14 [16:41] saw this in airspy channel https://alexander.n.se/grimetons-sister-station-shall-reappear-in-the-stratosphere/ [16:45] And I do worry about 2 times 5m10 antenna wire.... [16:52] :) [17:53] New vehicle on the map: 03KD8UUD-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8UUD-11 [17:57] gb73dx (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:00] gb73d (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:01] gb73dx (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:01] gb73d (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:20] EA4EUO (533a0f0f@15.red-83-58-15.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:21] EA4EUO (533a0f0f@15.red-83-58-15.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:01] Lahti (~Lahti@dyvyrw3tb3q7200jlb22t-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lähdössä [19:46] PC4L (~PC4L-Marc@host-66o28h.gs1.zeelandnet.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:11] es5nhc_ (~es5nhc@static-213-100-139-88.cust.tele2.ee) joined #highaltitude. [20:15] Haxxa (~Harrison@103-21-0-39.ip4.superloop.com) left irc: Quit: ZNC 1.6.2+deb1+jessie0 - http://znc.in [20:15] es5nhc_ (~es5nhc@static-213-100-139-88.cust.tele2.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:16] Haxxa (~Harrison@103-21-0-39.ip4.superloop.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:39] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otogusehhptsxxnz) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [20:41] n0rc (8821d487@136.33.212.135) joined #highaltitude. [20:44] Is there a windows program that will do LMS6 and feed the site? [20:46] DL7AD_TABLET (~DL7AD_TAB@89.244.121.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:51] DL7AD_TABLET (~DL7AD_TAB@89.244.121.22) joined #highaltitude. [21:05] OZ7EMA (~emanuel_@2001:b07:ad4:b747:9d35:b668:3328:d417) joined #highaltitude. [21:13] New vehicle on the map: 03KG7SSH-11 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7SSH-11 [21:17] n0rc wsl [21:18] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlugqttmjotherva) left irc: [21:19] OZ7EMA (~emanuel_@2001:b07:ad4:b747:9d35:b668:3328:d417) left irc: Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz& [21:20] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@5.186.79.28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) left irc: Quit: Please pause the radiowaves ! [21:51] Huj-S-Gory (~woops@cpc108455-cowc8-2-0-cust668.14-2.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:05] Kodar (~Kodar@93-142-48-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:06] New vehicle on the map: 03N7AGF-3 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7AGF-3 [22:20] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com [22:23] happysat do you mean Windows sub-system for Linux? [22:29] n0rc (8821d487@136.33.212.135) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:32] happysat: running auto_rx in WSL is not really recommended.. [22:45] Darkside i have to disagree.. im running auto-rx, chasemapper and cusf predict with gps in wsl since may without zero crashes or any other wierd problems, its a better solution then w7 and anaconda [22:46] i tried on all ubuntu wsl-1 even 20.10 with python3 only works great [22:46] only no real usb detection ;) [22:48] horus-gui udp to wsl chasemapper also works [22:48] imho its better then sdr#, sondemonitor rs41 tracker ect [22:49] you could also just run it on a pi or something [22:49] i have for mobile use on a 3b+ [22:49] but ok [22:50] at least it works [22:50] i don thave a windows 10 machine to experiment with [22:50] im on dual boot w10 ltsc and ubuntu 18.04 ever since i got it running on wsl i did touch ubuntu in months :) [22:51] how ever i think wsl2 is a different story [22:51] with usb and the rtl_fm trick [23:02] https://imgur.com/a/xmxpI1e almost no cpu load [23:06] New vehicle on the map: 03VA7MCE-9 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA7MCE-9 [23:08] New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 039 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1 [23:16] matt|home (~matt@unaffiliated/matthome/x-8401877) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:22] gb73d (gb73d@host-92-0-87-168.as43234.net) left irc: [23:43] happysat: can you run up python please [23:43] and run: [23:44] import platform [23:44] platform.system() [23:44] and tell me what the output it? [23:46] yes mom. [23:47] well you're asking me to make changes to auto_rx to support a platform i have no access too... [23:47] so i'm trying to find out other ways of detecting WSL [23:49] it says linux [23:49] bah [23:49] ok [23:49] ye sno problem i cna help [23:49] ill use the check you mentioned in the github issue [23:49] wont get to it for a few days [23:50] im not sure it work they mention it overhere also https://www.reddit.com/r/bashonubuntuonwindows/comments/85jghk/how_to_allow_python_to_know_im_on_windows/ [23:50] anyway thanks :) [23:51] i always have to edit utils.py with updates, the checks and eturns you mentioned before [23:54] yeah i can replace the current check with a is_native_linux check of some sort [23:55] which checks if its linux, and then checks if its WSL [00:00] --- Mon Sep 7 2020