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[01:49] Laurenceb (~laurence@223.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:16] New vehicle on the map: 0319GSN006 GALAXY S10 ROBERT_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=19GSN006%20GALAXY%20S10%20ROBERT_chase [02:47] DL7AD (~sven@2001:16b8:5c1b:5000:e543:945b:5999:375f) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [02:56] Alright, let me just bullshit together tomorrow's schedule... [02:59] Oh, I'm sorry, I had the wrong tab highlighted. [03:03] DL7AD (~sven@2001:16b8:5ca0:fe00:82d0:14ae:2ea5:93c) joined #highaltitude. [03:18] Axone (~Axone@lfbn-idf1-1-63-56.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.2 - http://znc.in [03:21] Axone (~Axone@lfbn-idf1-1-63-56.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #highaltitude. [03:55] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:55] tweetBot (~nodebot@philcrump.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [04:06] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbodsrlkcvhyjhzi) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [04:10] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:21] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) joined #highaltitude. [04:55] dude12312414 (~test@gateway/tor-sasl/dude12312414) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:56] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@ip-5-186-79-28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) joined #highaltitude. [05:14] gm [06:07] cm13g09 (~chrism@spartan.dchosted.net) left irc: Quit: Patch Tuesday, only... for Linux. [06:11] cm13g09 (~chrism@spartan.dchosted.net) joined #highaltitude. [06:43] New position from 03W8MV-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W8MV-11 [06:48] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [07:12] FireFighter (~firefight@2601:44:4200:ab4f:1832:88ab:76f2:d6c7) joined #highaltitude. [07:12] Lahti (~Lahti@dytkpt8skdkqg5580djqy-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) joined #highaltitude. [07:44] New position from 03NASD01 after 0314 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NASD01 [08:03] New position from 03cayennelpp1 after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=cayennelpp1 [08:54] New position from 03DL7AD after 0310 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD [08:54] DL7AD: Recceived via Eshail-2 geo satellite :D [09:07] New vehicle on the map: 03M0KVI_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0KVI_chase [09:19] craag what? [09:20] ballon with qo100 uplink or joke? [09:21] prototype balloon tracker with qo100 uplink [09:21] by DL7AD [09:22] oh thats really cool [09:24] rtty or ? [09:27] Olivia 2/125 at the moment, he's still trying things out though. [09:27] lol, madness [09:27] DL7AD: sorry I missed your messages yesterday [09:29] what freq, ill have a look? [09:31] It's off now, as he's got to work. [09:31] ahh ok [09:32] It turns out my tcxo-modded LNB is less stable in intermittent sunlight than I'd hoped :/ [09:33] i havent modded my lnb yet, just use the tracking in sdr console [09:40] oh danish chatter on .695, thats rare i hear that [09:41] craag: tinfoil ! :) [10:23] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [10:25] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) joined #highaltitude. [10:25] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) left irc: Changing host [10:25] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) joined #highaltitude. [10:33] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [10:34] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) joined #highaltitude. [10:34] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) left irc: Changing host [10:34] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) joined #highaltitude. [10:39] qfacone small portable 1680MHz sonde antenna lahti design http://skanneri.info/foorumi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=203 [10:41] hopefully 1680 MHz sondes will go away soon [10:41] the US is getting rid of them [10:47] Processman (5b9be697@91-155-230-151.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #highaltitude. [11:02] https://www.u-blox.com/en/product/zed-f9p-module [11:02] New model [11:03] Centimeters accuracy. Sounds awesome. [11:06] daveake (uid144009@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sejbogsvadlojsks) joined #highaltitude. [11:07] Pit[m]: you have an rtk-app in mind? [11:13] i've ordered a few of them for a work job [11:13] using them to get precise position reporting off a drone platform [11:23] cool [11:24] probably awesome for landing [11:26] Guest44366 (~anony@cpe-85-10-26-226.dynamic.amis.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:32] its more just so we get an accurate record ofr where the drone went, not so much for controlling it [11:32] takeoffs / landings are manually controlled [11:33] we dont care so much that the drone follows a precise path, as much as we care about knowing precisely where it *did* go for our application [11:53] New position from 03PS-76 after 033 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-76 [12:04] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qpzpalyflxcadwtd) joined #highaltitude. [12:09] Processman (5b9be697@91-155-230-151.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:21] Darkside: right, a lot of possible applications. :) [12:24] yeah [12:24] but yeah, you really need 2 of them to get good accuracy without external corrections [12:24] and you need to know the location of the reference station to very good accuracy if you want good accuracy on the rover station [12:31] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [12:32] xfce (~anony@cpe-85-10-26-226.dynamic.amis.net) joined #highaltitude. [12:33] Nick change: xfce -> Guest50386 [12:39] New position from 03PS-74 after 0315 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-74 [12:44] dude12312414 (~test@gateway/tor-sasl/dude12312414) joined #highaltitude. [12:49] Maxell (maxellpixi@gateway/shell/lainhaus/x-qdpueutcjqerhgha) left irc: Quit: killed [12:50] Guest28469 (maxellpixi@gateway/shell/lainhaus/x-rngvdydteetqpfkr) joined #highaltitude. [12:53] dude12312414 (~test@gateway/tor-sasl/dude12312414) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:28] Darkside: mm, i thought it was another of their chipsets with built-in rtk-link on 430 mhz [13:39] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) joined #highaltitude. [13:39] GyroW (~GyroW@ptr-48ujrfdr5yxyejffeup.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) left irc: Changing host [13:39] GyroW (~GyroW@unaffiliated/gyrow) joined #highaltitude. [14:07] New position from 03SOLAR-WL after 032 days silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SOLAR-WL [14:29] Laurenceb (~laurence@223.141.208.46.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:37] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qpzpalyflxcadwtd) left irc: [14:40] New position from 03U4B-6 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U4B-6 [15:17] New vehicle on the map: 03SP3RAT_chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3RAT_chase [16:25] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujxeahvouvrjypon) joined #highaltitude. [17:07] OZ1SKY_Brian: 10489605.66 center [17:08] err dial sorry [17:08] New position from 03DL7AD after 038 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD [17:10] just started cooking, let me check quick [17:11] some broken cw? [17:12] ~1khz up [17:12] 1350hz center at 10489605.66 dial [17:12] it's 1 minute on, 1 minute off [17:13] might be something there, vy weak [17:13] yes, but decodable :) [17:13] olivia 2/125 [17:15] sri gotta keep an eye on the cooking [17:15] no worries am running recordings here for sven. [17:32] OZ1SKY_Brian, if the eggs break and little chicken come out the water was not hot enough ;-) [17:41] good evening. [17:42] fsphil: that's okay. agg helped me :) [17:45] we haven't used a hotfix filter in habitat in like 9 years! [17:45] amazingly i could still find my signing certificate and remember the passphrase and it all worked [17:48] agg: Yes the hotfix ist very cool. maybe we can encode the data binary :P [17:48] hah [17:48] really we want a binary parser for habitat for that, not a hotfix, that would be kind of a horror [17:48] The Olivia 2/125 messages take very long and I would be happy if I could reduce it even more. [17:48] i guess it could work though... [17:48] you'd have to use ASCII-coded-binary for it to work with fldigi though [17:49] and contestia needs ascii anyway? [17:49] olivia [17:49] Olivia is ASCII only anyway [17:49] 7bit. Contestia is 8 bit [17:49] in principle you could transmit $$CALLSIGN,SENTENCE_ID,BINARY_BLOB_HERE*CHECKSUM and decode the binary blob into whatever you wanted [17:49] But I chose olivia because contestia's Eb/N0 is higher. [17:50] using a hotfix or even just we could write a generic post-processing filter you could call [17:50] a bit of a weird hybrid [17:50] I guess you could base64 encode the data [17:50] better is DL7AD$$VERY_SHORT_CALL,SENTENCE_ID,BINARY_BLOB_HERE*CHECKSUM [17:51] I will be afk for 5min picking up dinner. [17:53] alexandre9099 (~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:53] alexandre9099 (~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099) joined #highaltitude. [17:56] New position from 03BSS25 after 0311 hours silence - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BSS25 [18:01] agg: back [18:02] agg: I want to send you another filter later which includes 8 char locators, because for the car 6 chars locators are pretty big [18:03] ok [18:07] PE2BZ no chiken bonus today :-) [18:07] New vehicle on the map: 03BZ-LORA-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-LORA-5 [18:10] New vehicle on the map: 03BZ-RTTY-5 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BZ-RTTY-5 [18:23] craag is it still there? [18:26] DL7AD are you still transmitting? [18:26] OZ1SKY_Brian: no [18:26] ok thanks [18:26] Problem is, that I have no window into the right direction. [18:26] ah ok i see the problem [19:02] Kodar (~Kodar@93-139-138-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined #highaltitude. [19:15] mikestir (~quassel@cpc153819-brmb11-2-0-cust509.1-3.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude. [19:58] Nick change: Guest28469 -> Maxell [20:28] New vehicle on the map: 03U4B-7 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=U4B-7 [20:34] mikestir (quassel@cpc153819-brmb11-2-0-cust509.1-3.cable.virginm.net) left #highaltitude. [20:39] chris_99 (uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujxeahvouvrjypon) left irc: [20:42] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@ip-5-186-79-28.dhcp.fibianet.dk) left irc: Quit: Please pause the radiowaves ! [20:57] FireFighter (~firefight@2601:44:4200:ab4f:1832:88ab:76f2:d6c7) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:03] New vehicle on the map: 03Magnu_Chase - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Magnu_Chase [21:26] agg: are you still here? [21:29] yes [21:40] agg: working on the hotfix at the moment. [21:51] agg: https://pastebin.com/RMPa2YCq [21:57] DL7AD: http://dpaste.com/35K9RE2 [21:59] 6383d5295eb5104f3e73ac0a6c9ab29b [22:01] agg: thx. as you can see, I'm living on the train track. :D [22:01] Kodar (~Kodar@93-139-138-12.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:02] it's very exciting, i am so happy to see all that hotfix stuff finally working lol [22:02] we spent a lot of time in 2011 designing a system to cope with all the errors people regularly had [22:02] but in the end we made a system where people tested stuff before flying and there was suddenly almost no need for any of the filters [22:03] agg: yes. that was the reason, I remembered the system :D [22:03] I also had been a culprit [22:07] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com [22:07] how many characters are you looking to squeeze the coordinates into? [22:08] undetermined. I don't want the whole transmission to be longer than 15 seconds because I probably have to run at 250...500mW in the end. [22:08] @fsphil [22:12] 6 characters base64 would be about worst case 0.15km accuracy [22:12] if I've done my sums right [22:14] fsphil i can do base91 [22:15] that'll be about 0.05km accuracy at the equator with 6 digits [22:15] 4.8km with 4 digits, which isn't great [22:16] I got 2,4km [22:16] it would be 2.4km for latitude [22:16] this would actually be enough for a floater. [22:16] true [22:20] fsphil: well if we start something like that we could do the same for all numbers. [22:21] and the , is the wort which is transmitted :P [22:21] worst [22:22] aynway. I don't want to make it too complicated just yet. [22:34] Lahti (~Lahti@dytkpt8skdkqg5580djqy-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lähdössä [22:40] DL7AD: you might be interested in a mode that david rowe and i are working on [22:40] https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/101 [22:40] very much in progress [22:43] Darkside: how do you get to such an Eb/N0? Do you use spreading? [22:59] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:05] snaked (~snaked@pdpc/supporter/active/snaked) joined #highaltitude. [23:39] New vehicle on the map: 03D1 - 12https://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=D1 [23:49] Darkside, fsphil, agg, craag: I will tell you tomorrow (today) when I'm leaving with the tracker switched on. I will transmit on the same frequency 2400.106MHz +~1kHz. Olivia 2/125, Cycle 40 seconds. Call DL7AD. Habitat protocol call: D1. ~1.5W on a cloverleaf antenna. [00:00] --- Thu Apr 30 2020