[00:00] very heavy too, but it was warm [00:00] if it wasn't for all the deadly animals it would be lovely :) [00:00] yes [00:00] rain cools things down [00:00] Uggy (~yannick@unaffiliated/uggy) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:00] and the tropical diseases : ) [00:00] ... [00:01] nobody told me about those [00:01] I have certainly noticed the drop in temperatures today. [00:01] I meant to head north and visit Cooktown [00:01] What with the ticks etc. I can see why it's empty [00:02] I'm from somewhere called Cookstown and we used to laugh at the place on the other side of the world that spelled the name wrong [00:02] Dengue fever [00:02] TB [00:02] anyhow [00:02] joeman, you don't work for the tourist board do you ? [00:02] proably should do some work [00:02] lol [00:02] Bat`O (~michael@shm67-1-81-56-107-165.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:02] suddenly reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_TB6onHVE [00:04] lol [00:06] DL7AD (~quassel@p57922FA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:07] Uggy (~yannick@mna75-3-82-66-228-129.fbx.proxad.net) joined #highaltitude. [00:07] DL7AD (~quassel@p57922FA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [00:09] Bat`O (~michael@shm67-1-81-56-107-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined #highaltitude. [00:10] I bet the kids go around and mod the second 'o' on the road signs phil [00:11] LA5VNA (~n11618@185.80-202-132.nextgentel.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:12] LA5VNA (~n11618@185.80-202-132.nextgentel.com) joined #highaltitude. 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[06:04] Geoff-G8DHE_ (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:04] Geoff-G8DHE (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:05] Geoff-G8- (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:06] Geoff-G8DHE-M (~Geoff-G8D@geoffg8dhe.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:18] HB9RSU (~BrunoB@92-32-149-5.dyn.cable.fcom.ch) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:32] Bob_Saget (~root@cpe-174-109-123-189.nc.res.rr.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:38] Rebounder (davidl@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:38] Rebounder (davidl@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #highaltitude. [06:52] talsit_roam (uid30008@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxukmythfwwfszfq) joined #highaltitude. [07:08] jdiez (~jdiez@unaffiliated/jdiez) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:19] http://puu.sh/cDZpn/15cb992aea.png AM voice, Airband, right? [07:22] Oddstr13: yes, 118,6 MHz [07:23] http://qrg.globaltuners.com/?q=118.6 [07:23] Mark_B (5697d4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.151.212.171) joined #highaltitude. [07:25] Hi. I've uploaded a flight doc in habitat genpayload, may I request authorisation please. My intent is to launch this Saturday 8 Nov from Deffod, Worcs. This is my first launch. Thanks [07:27] I'm finding real signals ^.^ I'm getting better at this! :D [07:27] Mark_B: check on #habhub - they will aprove your flight doc [07:28] Rgr, thanks [07:28] Oddstr13: once you know where to look you'll be amazed about the amount of wireless activity [07:28] Maxell: I know :D [07:29] It's just that I'm sitting with just a crappy RTL-SDR :P [07:29] there's noise all over the place [07:29] Oddstr13: checked amateur radio frequencies around 144 to 146 Mhz and 430 to 440? [07:29] not yet [07:29] but I did find my wireless keyboard in the 27MHz ISM band :P [07:30] There might be repeaters nearby and in range. They take the signal from a portable or mobile amateur radio station and transmit it again from somewhere high [07:30] ah, yes those will sure make some nice bumps in the waterfall [07:31] I know there's a repeater here somewhere, the power company uses one [07:31] Mark_B (5697d4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.151.212.171) left irc: Quit: Page closed [07:31] Mark_B (5697d4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.151.212.171) joined #highaltitude. [07:33] Action: Oddstr13 goes to find the wikipedia article on amateur radio [07:34] 2m band and 70cm band? [07:35] 144Mhz and 434Mhz [07:35] probably more on 144Mhz [07:37] can't see anything but noise :P [07:37] http://puu.sh/cE08i/98aee4eb6c.png [07:38] I probably should see if i can find clamp-on ferrite beads for my USB cable [07:39] I have those lines all over the place [07:41] oh, and 434MHz is also ISM band [07:41] that's where the weather sensors and that stuff live :P [07:43] Mark_B (5697d4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.151.212.171) left irc: Quit: Page closed [07:48] http://puu.sh/cE0vv/7873807e06.png sounds kinda like rtty [07:52] too much fading for decoding tho [07:54] expo873 (uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugcawmrijauplsts) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [07:54] http://puu.sh/cE0IR/649a8bb1f1.png [07:57] edmoore (~ed@82.6.148.64) joined #highaltitude. [08:06] have a callsign DB handy? [08:08] edmoore (~ed@82.6.148.64) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [08:09] LeoBodnar (0264ca68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.100.202.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:25] http://puu.sh/cE1NS/bbfbad290d.png what's this? [08:25] jdiez (~jdiez@178-32-51-157.kimsufi.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:25] Looks like a waterfall to me [08:26] Nick change: jdiez -> Guest83384 [08:28] ha-ha, very funny [08:33] LeoBodnar (5680a908@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.128.169.8) joined #highaltitude. [08:33] cylon signal [08:34] not seen any like that before [08:38] As long as he's not on the internet he'll be fine [08:39] Action: fsphil digs out his old analogue phone [08:40] I wonder if an rfc1149 connection would deter them [08:40] (avian carrier) [08:41] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) joined #highaltitude. [08:46] Nick change: day- -> day [08:48] http://puu.sh/cE2BI/11e172adb0.png [08:51] ive read about receiving satellite signals with dvb-t sticks yesterday :o [08:51] looks like multipath fading [08:51] on HF [08:51] never seen it on VHF [08:51] of dead satellites. frickn amazing :o [08:52] Laurenceb (~Laurence@host86-146-189-12.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:56] fsphil: http://puu.sh/cE2RR/bd29a8ab26.wav that's what it sounds like on USB [08:56] ive heard a few older satellite transmission audio files. do current satellites still send data that slow? [08:57] depends on the satellite I'd say [08:57] there a satellites that still send CW [08:58] nice [08:58] is it possible to listen to hubble transmissions? [09:00] http://weebau.com/satellite/H/hst.htm [09:00] telemetry signal on 2285.5 mhz [09:00] can be as slow as 500 bps [09:01] how big does the antenna need to be? the guy who wrote the article used a frickn power line mast size antenna :P [09:01] natrium43 (~alexei@tigerc.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:01] 2GHz is too high for the RTL-SDR :P [09:02] unlikely the signal would make much sense even if you could get it [09:02] apparently the tuner can be used up ti 2.1Ghz iirc [09:02] worth trying. check when it passes overhead and listen out for it [09:02] you'll spot it from the doppler shift [09:03] whoa, it's nearly 25 years old [09:03] ibanezmatt13 (~ibanezmat@host86-160-14-10.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:04] tuners onthe dvb-b-t sticks varies [09:04] 25 years in orbit in april [09:04] SpeedEvil: and im unlike to get an e4000 one :( [09:04] unlikely* [09:04] Action: fsphil has two :) [09:04] on the lower end, it drops out at a center freq of about 24.1 MHz [09:07] Laurenceb (~Laurence@host86-146-189-12.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:07] is it possible to listen to decode ham voice communication with rtl-sdr as well? [09:07] one listen or decode to much :> [09:08] yea there's a few amateur radio bands in range [09:08] one around 50mhz, 70mhz (in some places), 145mhz and 430mhz [09:08] natrium42 (~alexei@tigerc.at) joined #highaltitude. [09:08] I've been having fun listening in the 12m band this morning [09:08] mostly of limited interest most of the time [09:08] some places have more [09:08] cb is out of range i take it? :( [09:09] you might or might not be able to tune to it [09:09] I think the US have a 200mhz band [09:09] actually, I found CW down there [09:09] there's also someting around 220mhz in the us I think [09:09] day: I think that depends on the stick (and possibly location) [09:09] you might also get something on 1.2ghz, but very very unlikely [09:09] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio#Band_plans_and_frequency_allocations [09:09] UK/EU most CB is around 27MHz which might be in range for some sticks [09:10] you may also have some pmr/frs/lpd frequencies (often somewhere between 400 and 500mhz [09:11] ibanezmatt13 (~ibanezmat@host86-160-14-10.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:11] you might also hear pirates (arrr) using old US military satellites [09:11] lol [09:12] the old sats just relayed anything they hear, so people started using them [09:12] day: I'm able to tune down to about 24.1MHz [09:12] seriously? [09:12] yea [09:12] thats wow [09:12] http://www.radiohobbyist.org/blog/?p=913 [09:12] satcom [09:13] weissbaer (~yc@a89-182-58-93.net-htp.de) left irc: Read error: No route to host [09:13] are people trying to hack those things as well? [09:14] stupid question. did anyone yet manage to crash one? :P [09:15] weissbaer (~yc@a89-182-58-93.net-htp.de) joined #highaltitude. [09:17] oh, fighter yet out playing [09:17] what frequency should i look at? xD [09:17] the airband? [09:19] day: from that page and what fsphil said I think the satcom sats are effectivly just a radio receiver conneced to a transmitter, so what goes in one side comes out the other. [09:19] not really anythign in there to hack / crash. [09:20] Action: Oddstr13 cut his antenna in two [09:20] random wire antenna ftw [09:20] Oddstr13: if it's military they may well have their own frequency space (and potentially encryption) - they might have odd bits on airband somewhere as well if they need to talk to comercial aircraft / towers [09:23] I guess [09:25] morning mfa298 [09:26] mfa298: i thought the frequency space is rather limited due to the atmosphere [09:27] day: depends what your doing [09:27] morning cm13g09 [09:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_window [09:29] most of the normal radio spectrum isn't affected by the atmosphere [09:30] how old are these amplifier satellites? [09:35] Laurenceb (~Laurence@host86-146-189-12.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:41] PE1BIA (541ac4c6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.26.196.198) joined #highaltitude. [09:41] what about VORTEX4? [09:48] PE1BIA (541ac4c6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.26.196.198) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:00] HB9RSU (~BrunoB@92-32-149-5.dyn.cable.fcom.ch) joined #highaltitude. [10:12] edmoore (~ed@130.255.28.247) joined #highaltitude. [10:22] DL7AD (~quassel@p57922024.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. [10:37] !hysplit B-64 [10:37] 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03B-64 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141105-04_12437_B64.gif [10:40] http://puu.sh/cE6q0/2463c2f383.png this looks like measurement of some sort :P [10:44] lw2dtz (be6fcf5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.111.207.90) joined #highaltitude. [10:44] hi [10:48] Mark_B (5697d4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.151.212.171) joined #highaltitude. [10:50] Hi, can anyone field a question regarding the spacenearus tracker, I'm hoping to use it this weekend? Thanks [10:50] don;t ask to ask [10:50] on IRC [10:50] just ask [10:50] if someone can answer they will [10:51] Lunar_LanderU (~gd-winzen@131.173.11.189) joined #highaltitude. [10:51] hello [10:51] Hi Ed. I've submitted a flight doc but it hasn't appeared on the tracker. I'd like to take my tracker for a quick test drive today to iron out any wrinkles. Have I missed something? [10:53] possibly, the best place to ask is on the £habhub channel which administers such things as payload and flight documents [10:53] and can explain the difference between them if that's unclear [10:53] lw2dtz (be6fcf5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.111.207.90) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:54] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [10:54] Rgr, thanks. I'll have a look for the channel. Thanks too for the advice you gave me on the UKHAS mailing list a few months ago. [10:57] i hope i wasn't too rude [10:57] SushiKenBrown (~quassel@cmr-208-124-174-194.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:58] i don;t actually recall the specific exchange, that's just a general apology I issue when someone knows me from the mailing list [10:59] SushiKenBrown_ (~quassel@cmr-208-124-174-194.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [11:00] Laurenceb (~Laurence@host86-146-189-12.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:01] Ed, you weren't rude at all; nor has anyone else. My post was as a newbie after some advice / assistance with ARDUINO code...... I've gone away done some research and learning and I'm good to go subject to spacenear us tracker / wind etc [11:02] brill [11:02] the rude thing was also slightly tongue-in-cheek :) [11:17] heathkid (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) left irc: Read error: No route to host [11:17] heathkid|2 (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) joined #highaltitude. [11:27] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [11:28] weissbaer (~yc@a89-182-58-93.net-htp.de) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [11:37] day: You where wondering if it was possible to receive CW with the RTL-SDR? http://puu.sh/cE8lK/516bd50354.png Receiving this at 28MHz [11:38] SiC (~Simon@193.37.225.144) joined #highaltitude. [11:39] i guess i have to buy one. sounds interesting [11:42] http://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/software-defined-radio/products/software-defined-radio-kit-rtl-sdr?variant=424034573 [11:43] I'm using one of these, except I bought mine on ebay [11:43] Also, CW Skimmer truly epic o.o [11:51] except it is decoding CW [11:53] gonzo__: it's epicly good at decoding CW [11:56] im gonna give the logilink in amazon a try [11:57] this one http://www.amazon.de/LogiLink-DVB-T-USB-Receiver-Multilanguage-Fernbedienung/dp/B002LLHXJW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415188599&sr=8-1&keywords=logilink+dvb-t [11:57] on amazon* [11:58] day: unless it states it's using a suitable chipset I wouldn't buy that. [11:58] you need a specific chipset for the sdr software to work [11:58] do keep in mind that these cheap dongles arn't really designed for tuning so low [11:59] mfa298: it should. some comments say they use it for sdr [11:59] i also found it on multiple compatibility lists [12:00] I'm able to tune down to 24.1 MHz center freq. YMMV [12:00] it doesnt use the e4000 tuner tho :/ but i cant find one that uses it in the EU. china takes 1+month [12:00] fair enough, you can always try it and if it doesn't work use it to watch tv and try something different [12:00] day: I got mine from china ^^ [12:00] slow, but nobody can compete with the price [12:00] true [12:01] most of mine came from china as well [12:01] o0 [12:01] most? [12:01] lol [12:01] how many do you have? :D [12:01] hes eating them [12:01] I've got an early one with the E4000 and 4 others. [12:01] not all in use, [12:02] were the e4k ones better from a rf performance point of view? [12:02] or just wider tuning range? [12:02] but had them doing different things (sometimes trying stuff on pi's) [12:02] they dont have a midrange gap iirc [12:03] e4k had a dc spike and were the original ones with the best range, I think the 420T is very similar in range and possibly no dc spike [12:03] oh does the 420T sample at an IF? [12:04] so has a single 6MSPS adc rather than dual 3MSPS ones? [12:04] I might actually mean the r820t [12:04] whichver :) [12:04] there's a table of ranges on http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr [12:06] New position from 03UR5FYG_chase after 0316 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=UR5FYG_chase [12:07] I can't remember if the dc spike was just fixed in software or if there was some change in the tuner that fixed it (or how) [12:07] i think its the IF thing [12:07] the e4k is zero-IF [12:11] those sticks have 6MSPS ADCs?????? [12:14] well dvb-t is 8MHz channels [12:14] so the e4k ones are probably complex sampling 8MSPS ADCs [12:14] mattbrejza: DVB is done internally though [12:15] the raw samples are just for broadcast FM/DAB [12:15] yea, but the ADC still has to be >*MSPS [12:15] 8 [12:16] DL7AD (~quassel@p57922024.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:16] anerDev (~anerDev@2.234.169.198) joined #highaltitude. [12:16] could well be that the 2.5msps limit for the sdr software is down to the rtl2832 chip, and that there's much higher from the tuner [12:16] im not sure where the dvb-t get's descoded on them [12:16] is that due to nyquist? [12:17] cfloare (~cfloare@crystal.itim-cj.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [12:18] well the dvb-t decoder needs 8MHz of spectrum [12:18] yes [12:18] but i guess they can only poop out 3.2 of that over usb [12:18] as usb is shit [12:18] true [12:33] anerDev (~anerDev@2.234.169.198) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [12:35] Nick change: Guest83384 -> jdiez [12:35] jdiez (~jdiez@178-32-51-157.kimsufi.com) left irc: Changing host [12:35] jdiez (~jdiez@unaffiliated/jdiez) joined #highaltitude. [12:43] For SDR dongles in the UK CosyCave seems to be a reasonable source. They also have an ebay shop. [12:44] In Gqrx there is a menu option to rid the spike in the middle of the screen. Something to do with DC offset perhaps. [12:45] New vehicle on the map: 03MM - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=MM [12:52] Lunar_LanderU (~gd-winzen@131.173.11.189) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [12:56] cfloare (~cfloare@crystal.itim-cj.ro) joined #highaltitude. 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[15:17] lol [15:18] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+drive+servos+with+the+raspberry+pi&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=sj9aVO3ICdOq8wfav4HYDQ [15:18] Deano86__ (uid50701@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwqtbtvylcavlvcj) joined #highaltitude. [15:19] polde_ (uid19610@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mywedjqytutjizxe) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:19] Deano86_ (uid50701@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upsisdhfwsiykteb) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:19] Nick change: Deano86__ -> Deano86_ [15:19] well my problem of these standard solution is, that the timing is not accurate [15:19] polde_ (uid19610@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-muigeqetxsdbneaz) joined #highaltitude. [15:19] @ SpeedEvil [15:19] db_g6gzh (~db@gresley.dbrooke.me.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:20] lbm (~lbm@mufasa.lbm.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:20] https://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html [15:21] SpeedEvil: the source code was unable to compile :/ [15:21] db_g6gzh (~db@gresley.dbrooke.me.uk) joined #highaltitude. [15:21] Well - you need to start out with pi dma [15:21] Or the PWM units, not bit-banging it [15:22] BenPylko (d8e27f79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.226.127.121) joined #highaltitude. [15:22] lbm (~lbm@mufasa.lbm.dk) joined #highaltitude. [15:22] SpeedEvil: PWM wasnt accurate as well [15:23] what do you mean by that [15:23] my servo is stuttering [15:23] do you mean even when static [15:23] yeah [15:23] Are you actuallyusing the hardware PWMs? [15:24] no idea. i'm using what's available in the library [15:24] es5nhc (~tarmo@108-40-71-217.static.internet.emt.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:24] Most servos use PPM, not PWM (I just got here, if you're using an arduino, the servo library should work) [15:25] es5nhc (~tarmo@108-40-71-217.static.internet.emt.ee) joined #highaltitude. [15:25] im using it that way: [15:26] pwm = GPIO.PWM(18, 100) [15:26] pwm.start(5) [15:26] pwm.ChangeDutyCycle(duty) [15:27] Yeah, servos use PPM (pulse position modulation) not PWM (pulse width modulation). They will behave strangely if you use pwm [15:28] isn't this the same? [15:29] BenPylko: It's PWM [15:29] BenPylko: not PPM [15:30] SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. [15:30] SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [15:30] Right, I'm saying the servos won't work correctly if you use pwm (there are some types that use pwm, but ppm is the norm) [15:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-position_modulation [15:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation [15:32] A generic one that c [15:32] A generic one that can use any pin won't work at all well. [15:33] BenPylko: PWM is the norm for RC servos [15:33] They are 0.5-1.3ms on, 20ms off. [15:33] In the off period, transmitters that can run multiple servos often multiplex the servo pulses. [15:33] But the basic servos are very much PWM - and not PPM. If you go from 20ms, to 18ms, they will not move. [15:33] DL7AD: you actually need to work out how to use the hardware PWM unit. This is available ononly two (?)pins on the pi [15:34] That's strange, I must have been using some uncommon servos [15:35] expo873 (uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-svdqgseiewonxuzn) joined #highaltitude. [15:36] g0hww (~g0hww@46-18-105-34.static.vivaciti.org) joined #highaltitude. [15:36] I've used this library before https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/ I know it has a software PWM library which could work, but it might not be reliable enough to run servos correctly [15:37] according to their documentation, only pin 1 supports hardware pwm [15:37] SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:37] DL7AD (~sven@pd95bdf5d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:38] https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/functions/ [15:38] mchlkf_ (~mchlkf@host-92-20-92-144.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [15:38] BitEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [15:42] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil [15:43] the Pi has a few different modes of running it's hardware PWM [15:44] although I'm not sure what the various libraries do (or even if they do hardware pwm) [15:44] BenPylko (d8e27f79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.226.127.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:45] my bit of Pi based PWM (for dominoEX) was all direct register calls and the buggy result took a lot of time and a lot of hair pulling from the data sheet [15:46] DL7AD (~sven@pd95bdf5d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude. 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