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[01:24] What were you hoping for? [01:33] well not standing around while the two guys behind the counter bicker away on the radio for one [01:33] like 15 minutes or so [01:33] i dunno [01:33] that all aside [01:33] im trying to find the best antenna to use for habs, either build and buy [01:33] last time i asked, people suggested colinear [01:34] which is what i'm aiming for now [01:49] johnboiles (~Adium@199.255.189.186) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:53] Yeah, a colinear is simple and would work alright for home use. [01:53] If the goal is to take it with you in the car, a handheld yagi would be better [01:53] That gives you some directionality [01:54] I just have a mag mounted vertical on my car and that usually works alright. [01:54] cool [01:54] figured so [01:58] c'mon converge you bastards [01:58] Action: Randomskk swears at his simulations [02:03] lol [02:08] johnboiles (~Adium@199.255.189.186) joined #highaltitude. 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[05:50] err [05:50] AVA [05:52] spacekitteh (~quassel@unaffiliated/traumapony) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [05:52] evening [05:55] howdy [05:55] i have my station on with hopes it goes trans pacific [05:56] jarod: launching a balloon from the Hague on saturday if you're interested [05:56] :) [05:56] arko: haha [05:56] more like :P [05:58] Evening arko [05:59] sup nigelvh [06:00] Livin' you know. [06:01] Contemplating how I want to connect my rig to the internet. [06:02] Control is an easy choice, but choosing audio does limit how it can be accessed. [06:03] hello 6am [06:03] :| [06:03] a fortnight exactly since I've been up all night working on coursework, and no coincidence [06:03] Hello 10pm [06:03] hah, I'd swap :P [06:04] sounds better than my day [06:04] i found out i moved up a tax bracket and owe money now [06:04] YAY! [06:05] yea.. "yay" [06:05] sweet, love it when that happens [06:05] >_> [06:05] more like "I OW HOW MUCH!?" [06:05] owe* [06:05] your tax system is so weird [06:05] dude it sucks [06:05] my income tax just gets taken out of my paycheque automatically [06:05] and the VAT I pay on things in shops is included on the price tag [06:05] and that's basically it [06:06] yeah, eroomde was explaining when he was here [06:06] costyn freq? [06:06] Action: arko books tickets to live in england [06:07] jarod: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/ukhas/kUJdTQbarmI/XbqyPa1lzewJ [06:13] radim_OM2AMR (~radimmuti@195.28.91.150) joined #highaltitude. [06:16] arko: the weather really sucks most of the time though [06:17] :/ [06:17] true [06:22] costyn cool :) [06:23] what mode? [06:26] jarod: RTTY [06:26] jarod: if you want to come watch, you're welcome [06:30] Hix (~Hix@93-96-235-51.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [06:36] nop rtty on sdrsharp .... [06:39] niftylettuce (uid2733@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmtqvgxrbzfumcgc) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:39] jarod, you need dl-fldigi to decode HAB - route sound from sdrsharp to it and "it just works" [06:40] (replace HAB with RTTY) [06:41] :) [06:41] ok [06:41] so just need waterfall, ok [06:41] jarod: http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:sdr_tracker [06:41] jarod: (bottom part) [06:41] yap [06:42] hmm dl-fldigi is different from fldigi ? [06:42] yup [06:43] http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi ... isee same site :) [06:43] morning all [06:43] jarod: yep [06:44] morning Upu, sun doesn't help yet [06:44] reception should be great here :) [06:44] Well tbh radim_OM2AMR if its still up there its probably over deepest russia now [06:45] jarod: where are you? [06:45] it was doing 110mph [06:45] Very North of Amsterdam [06:46] Received email: Costyn van Dongen "[UKHAS] Re: Launch Announcement - 2/3 March - Hyperion/Habanero from [06:46] ah ok [06:47] it be launching season [06:47] Upu, it could be so. Anyway yesterday was a great day :-) [06:48] glad you enjoyed it :) I'll put some RFM22B reset code in there next time [06:50] Upu: our questionable habamp is on it's way back to you. I posted it monday, should be there one of these days [06:50] ok I'll get that looked at costyn [06:51] Upu: thanks [06:51] Hix (~Hix@93-96-235-51.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:52] prediction looks nice, been stable since tuesday afternoon http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=1975e7be1a9ee2f5bd93aa4c875f34a5819024ca [06:57] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host109-145-38-173.range109-145.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. 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[08:01] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) joined #highaltitude. [08:07] ivan`` (~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:09] ivan`` (~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001) joined #highaltitude. [08:10] mornen [08:12] sup eroomde [08:12] Evening [08:12] yo arko [08:12] Though I suppose technically it's morning now [08:12] and nigelvh [08:12] yeah [08:12] Just barely [08:12] morning everywhere in the western world [08:12] depends on TZ. Mid afternoon in western australia [08:12] where west is an odd concept on a sphere [08:13] i always wondered that [08:13] so where is center? [08:13] england [08:13] at the top, in the middle [08:13] psshhhhh [08:13] grenwich [08:13] obviously [08:13] of course. [08:13] heh [08:13] just to by the reactor [08:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CS1cUIxBVg [08:13] first 30s [08:13] man, i wish i could apply to work with Raffaello D'Andrea [08:14] (which they have removed) -- wonder how many londoners knew there was a nuclear reactor in the city. [08:14] http://www.ingenia.org.uk/ingenia/issues/issue10/Beeley.pdf [08:15] as for what's up, car tax, credit card bills, and pcb design [08:16] eroomde: 1/3 not bad [08:16] yep [08:16] other 2 a bit sucky [08:16] i just found out i owe 6k in taxes today [08:16] oh jesus [08:16] that would kill me [08:16] yeah.... [08:16] yeahhhhh [08:16] im going tomorrow with all my papers to bring that down [08:16] yeah [08:16] if i can't, eu aint happening [08:16] :( [08:17] stupid taxes [08:17] You must have really had your W2's off. [08:17] only 2 things are certain etc [08:17] nigelvh: long story [08:18] i like being told this news 1 day before going to SF [08:18] eroomde: recommend food around there? [08:18] YES [08:18] everything [08:18] oh good [08:18] haha [08:18] ferry building for artisan/hipster markets [08:18] trying to get ahold of natrium42, maybe i can meet him [08:18] the wine place, the cheese place, the bread place, the chocolate place [08:18] cheese! [08:18] duh! [08:18] i forgot about that [08:18] the cheese place is well good [08:19] link? [08:19] oh sweet [08:20] right next to the BART station [08:20] im staying in Berkeley [08:20] do the american stuff but if they happen to have some 3 year aged Comte as they did when i was there, have some of that too because it will improve your life [08:20] this should be perfect [08:20] yes it's by embarkadero [08:20] eroomde: Comte, noted [08:20] end of market [08:20] sweet [08:20] Dotties for breakfast between market and mission on 6th [08:20] i need to remember to bring my phone loaded with the full house theme [08:20] ah! [08:20] TARTINE for a croissant in mission (bart to 16th and mission then walk) [08:21] i was thinking about breakfast [08:21] if the weather is nice then there's a nice cafe/restaurant at the top of the moscone gardens [08:21] near the conf centre [08:21] dotties it is [08:21] where you can eat outside and have nice things [08:21] hmm [08:22] just to the left of this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/8447102762/in/set-72157632591417825 [08:22] there was a v nice but slightly spending vietnamese place in the ferry building too [08:22] shiny [08:22] spendy* [08:22] ah [08:22] called slatted door [08:22] or slanted door [08:22] or something describing a door [08:22] haha [08:23] im just going to copy and paste this and email it to myself [08:23] i wont remember them very well [08:23] well, dotties was the best breakfast i had there [08:23] bit of a queue but it moves quickly and you will get a proper table [08:24] if you're in berkely then there's another breakfast place called the alameda, iirc [08:24] that has a breakfast plate called The Alameda [08:24] which is also v good [08:24] and if you can drive 5 minutes up the east bay, Jodies! [08:24] http://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/8462943758/in/set-72157632591417825 [08:24] oh that dude! [08:25] i dig [08:25] i like his attitude [08:25] from what i've heard [08:25] yep [08:25] it's v east to eat v well, basically [08:26] we have a car ;D [08:26] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:26] jodies is cool then [08:27] i am jel [08:27] i might be less so if the weather here wasn't so miserable [08:27] it's been unusually grey [08:27] the last week [08:28] it's spreading. we had an unusual sunny week recently. now grey [08:28] aww [08:29] yeah, the weather here has been perfect for that past few weeks [08:29] but i hear its getting hot soon [08:29] ugg [08:29] i would be happier at work if there was some blue [08:29] the grey is a damp cold [08:29] :/ [08:29] makes going outside for a wee not the pleasurable thing it should be [08:29] tis try though, makes a change. and there's even some daylight now after I get home from work [08:29] maybe i dont want to go to uk fo school afterall :P [08:29] cambridge is dryer [08:29] s'ok [08:29] try/dry [08:29] eees ok [08:30] oh snap, it doesnt get that got [08:30] hot* [08:30] sweet [08:30] just sat/sun [08:30] which is fine [08:34] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-135-135-28.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. 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[11:36] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:50] Received email: Nicole Blake "[UKHAS] CAA application" [11:54] Received email: Andrew Myatt "Re: [UKHAS] CAA application" [12:07] Grumbleist (~Grumbleis@82.34.218.234) left irc: Quit: Grumbleist [12:10] cuddykid (~acudworth@cpc2-basf8-2-0-cust23.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [12:10] cuddykid (~acudworth@cpc2-basf8-2-0-cust23.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:27] pjm (~pjm@uhfsatcom.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:28] radim_OM2AMR_ (~radimmuti@195.28.91.150) joined #highaltitude. [12:30] hessu_ (hessu@he.fi) joined #highaltitude. [12:30] ms7821 (~Mark@rack.ms) left irc: Disconnected by services [12:31] ms7821_ (~Mark@rack.ms) joined #highaltitude. [12:31] aj_ (aj@cerulean.erisian.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [12:35] radim_OM2AMR (~radimmuti@195.28.91.150) got netsplit. [12:35] pjm_ (~pjm@uhfsatcom.plus.com) got netsplit. [12:35] LWK (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) got netsplit. [12:35] iamdanw (uid459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukqrszpbricwzphe) got netsplit. [12:35] oh7lzb (hessu@he.fi) got netsplit. [12:35] aj (aj@cerulean.erisian.com.au) got netsplit. [12:35] Nick change: radim_OM2AMR_ -> radim_OM2AMR [12:35] Possible future nick collision: radim_OM2AMR [12:38] HixWork: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=1566654415b5a91de59df16d3d10547e26b3bd34 prediction is moving closer to Venlo ;) [12:39] not a bad prediction, although you've got quite a few big towns/cities there [12:40] fsphil: it's been north of Eindhoven for quite a while [12:40] fsphil: I think we'll beok [12:40] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [12:41] fsphil: I'm already happy it's not going north or west :) [12:42] yes. unless it went north west, you could land it in cambridge :) [12:42] heh [12:42] g7ogxchris (0278e046@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.120.224.70) joined #highaltitude. [12:43] BrainDamage (~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-94-36-246-171.clienti.tiscali.it) joined #highaltitude. [12:44] any news abt AVA? [12:44] nothing [12:45] shame..someone will find it eventually [12:46] aj (aj@cerulean.erisian.com.au) got lost in the net-split. [12:46] oh7lzb (hessu@he.fi) got lost in the net-split. [12:46] iamdanw (uid459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukqrszpbricwzphe) got lost in the net-split. [12:46] LWK (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) got lost in the net-split. [12:46] pjm_ (~pjm@uhfsatcom.plus.com) got lost in the net-split. [12:51] the last two balloons to float that way have never been seen since [12:53] yea [12:53] shame... 1st we lost because we had no contact with East European hams, second one becuase payload crash/battery issues/who knows [12:54] pretty sure the temperature caused the rfm22b to stop working [12:54] difference between ava and storm was the gps failed in storm before the radio [12:55] heh [12:55] I'm gonna add some heaters to it [12:55] fsphil: you doing a floater too? [12:56] yea, going to do a storm 2 [12:56] or use a NTX2 and lassen :P [12:59] LWK (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) joined #highaltitude. [12:59] LWK (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) left irc: Client Quit [13:02] LWK (~LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) joined #highaltitude. [13:04] I've tested my rfm22 in -18 and it wasn't an issue, I guess ava got a lot colder. [13:05] tbh on the rfm every few mins could you tx 100mW on 869 to heat it up? :P [13:06] costyn, that has to be worth a lot of HAB points if it does :) [13:07] The freezer test was at 10mw. [13:07] Running 100mw the rfm was reporting a temp of +5. [13:09] i think youre probably just best with a ntx2 [13:09] mattbrejza: jcoxon programmed one of his to go to 100mw outside the uk -- it failed seconds later :) [13:09] the rfms offen die in the cold? [13:09] oh maybe not then [13:09] my floater died when it got to about -40c [13:10] has a ntx2 ever died that we know of? [13:10] don't believe so [13:10] apart from the one i murdered >:| [13:11] looks like a solution then :P [13:11] rfm22b can be programmed to do 25mw outside uk though [13:11] i was thinking of filling the NTX2 with cotton wool and then sealing it with kapton tape, what say ye? [13:11] NigelMoby tried covering the crystal with glue [13:11] i wonder how wombat would do [13:12] or picotex [13:12] glue helps [13:12] what hot glues fsphil [13:12] obviously it cools :) [13:12] lol [13:12] hot glue over the xtal kept it rock solid stable. [13:12] I think just keep the payload sealed, and with as little open space as possible [13:12] attach a glue gun, sealed lead acid, and inverter [13:12] that'll keep it hot [13:13] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:13] cuddykid (~acudworth@cpc2-basf8-2-0-cust23.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [13:13] on a serious note, the zippo handwarmer uses some kind of rockwool as a a=catalyst and it's helllishly effective [13:13] could be worth looking at a similar system [13:14] if u feel experimental a small heat pipe from the Ntx2 vreg to the xtal might help... [13:38] Received email: Anthony Stirk "Re: [UKHAS] CAA application" [13:41] i can't get tjhe stream here but the concept of 15 yrs from an AA seems unlikely but interesting http://goo.gl/wDkkf [13:43] SamSilver (c5572066@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.102) joined #highaltitude. [13:47] Nick change: ms7821_ -> ms7821 [13:51] HeliosFA (~helios@reaper.ecs.soton.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [14:16] zamabe (~zamabe@unaffiliated/zamabe) joined #highaltitude. [14:16] RocketBoy: do you know if the 1600g hwoyees will be back in the next few weeks? [14:20] just fly two 800g [14:20] totally legit [14:21] what sort of vol would you fill that to fsphil for a float attempt? [14:21] well ascent rate of < 3m/s with a light payload is the general 'rule' [14:21] yea, I'd just aim for an ascent rate of 2m/s [14:24] fsphil: They should be [14:24] what's the reason for such large balloons for floats then? could you not underfill a smaller balloon? [14:24] hav'nt got an exact date - deends on customs etc. [14:24] but about 2 weeks [14:24] Jess-- (51a81682@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.168.22.130) joined #highaltitude. [14:25] btw RocketBoy in what way were the predictions this week off? [14:25] thanks RocketBoy [14:25] were the winds different speeds than expected or were the descent rates unexpected? [14:26] smaller balloons need to be filled a bit more relative to their size HixWork, pushes them closer to their burst limit [14:26] that's my understanding of it anyway [14:26] though it has been done [14:26] mattbrejza: the predicted landing spot (both from the stand alone predictor and the initial tracker) where out by about 5km to actual [14:27] not 5km 20km off [14:27] iirc the old pin-hole floaters where all 1000g balloons [14:27] as per eail [14:27] email [14:27] did it get 'knocked' sideways or just go more downwind? [14:28] yea i saw the email i was just wondering were the inaccuracy came from [14:28] well the fligt was zig-zag - but about 20Km short of predicted [14:28] ah right ok fsphil [14:28] prediced was north of bicester and actual was milton keynes [14:28] they stayed really close. I really did think it was a single balloon [14:29] oh ok [14:29] yeah - I thouth they had tangled once they hag gone into the clouds [14:29] zamabe (~zamabe@unaffiliated/zamabe) left irc: Quit: FOR ELFANGOR!!!! [14:30] our prediction is looking good but if its out by 20km south its going to get wet [14:30] but 20km short or long is fine [14:30] I was thinking up all sorts of disater scenarios of being tangled - and then one balloon bursting and a virtual float [14:30] the footage must be good though [14:30] it is [14:31] there better be a whale and a bowl of petunias in there :p [14:31] it would be nice to run retrospective predictions - and plug in the actual numbers to see how far out they were [14:31] RocketBoy, any chance of getting a peek of stills from the landing in Whychwood last week or are they commercially tied in a.t.m? [14:32] na - only the shot I have already linked to [14:32] on flickr [14:32] dont suppose you have the intial prediction saved anywhere? [14:32] na [14:33] lupine (~lupine@unaffiliated/lupine-85/x-7392152) left irc: Excess Flood [14:33] what we need (im not offering my services) is after balloons get to 2km is to run a range of predictions and save them for that launch [14:33] I'll have to check that out at home as flickr banned here [14:33] then we will have a range of predictions and the actual flight [14:33] what's the flickr link? [14:34] but irc gets through the firewall :-) [14:34] one mo [14:34] last one I see is 41 landing [14:34] RocketBoy, tell me about it [14:34] http://www.flickr.com/photos/16828840@N07/ [14:35] one at the top XABEN41lands [14:35] HixWork: sounds like you need to get a cheap vps and then as long as you can get ssh out you should be able to bypass any restrictions [14:35] 'Blue Army - XABEN payload boxes - purging pink from the skys' lol [14:36] :-) [14:36] well something needs to [14:36] remembered that i can just rdc into server and browse fgrom that, though with a helishly slow refres rate [14:36] aah, I thought there was a pic from X42+X43 [14:36] iamdanw (uid459@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-flhatnrpaglwgiyw) joined #highaltitude. [14:36] nope - only footage [14:37] the kitkat ad been released yet? [14:37] and thats hld back for a couple [14:37] RocketBoy: have you seen much in the way of cosmic rays (spots and streaks) in your gopro videos? [14:37] kitkat - yeah [14:38] nope - never seen any [14:38] I found what seems to be quite a lot in one of mine [14:38] http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/hab/20130109-bbcsb-clip3.mp4 (30mb-ish) [14:38] really - I'll be looking now [14:39] they come and go, there's none near the apex [14:39] that's only a 10 second clip [14:39] lupine (~lupine@unaffiliated/lupine-85/x-7392152) joined #highaltitude. [14:41] interesting - maybe upward facing camera [14:41] pick them up better [14:41] yea, I've not checked the other cameras yet [14:41] I'll look at my older footage [14:41] what altitude was that? [14:42] it would have been roughtly 10km [14:42] there's none at launch, and none near the top (20km, short flight) [14:42] was that recent? [14:43] january [14:43] interesting [14:43] was the sun particularly active then ? [14:43] I checked but couldn't find a chart. there's no mention of major flares around that time [14:44] in saying that, http://www.solen.info/solar/ [14:45] there's a big peak near the 9th [14:45] number10 (d42c14ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.44.20.206) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:47] Kp index - http://www2.gi.alaska.edu/images/plot_ace.png [14:49] nothing unusual on that [14:49] we need more data, but this is interesting [14:50] more likely on an upwards facing camera? [14:50] the gopro has a decent amount of metal heatsink in it [14:51] (radiation shielding)? [14:51] I'll check the side camera when I get home, though it didn't last all the way to burst [14:53] most of my up footage is on an offline disk - I'll look later [14:53] very interesting though [14:54] cool even :-) [14:57] it is -- I only noticed it a few days ago [14:58] I'm going to set up a socks proxy so they can stick their filtering of such silly urls [14:59] NickB1 (~NickB@188.189.75.3) joined #highaltitude. [15:01] nick_ is going to fly a particle detector soon, i wonder if we could correlate with video [15:05] perhaps an upward camera painted black lens [15:10] would you want the sensor to be high sensitivity [15:10] or would you have trouble telling noise from particles? [15:12] RocketBoy: lens cap? [15:12] how much room should I leave between 2 payloasd under 1 balloon? [15:13] a bit more reversible :) [15:13] mattbrejza: i suspect you would have some trouble [15:13] people have certainly flwon rolls of 35mm film in the can [15:13] then developed it [15:13] and seen white spots [15:14] we did something similar with something photosensitive, i think we got something but I havnt seen the images [15:14] Amadiro (jonathri@dalvik.ping.uio.no) left irc: Excess Flood [15:17] Amadiro (jonathri@dalvik.ping.uio.no) joined #highaltitude. [15:21] sjohn (5c191881@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.25.24.129) joined #highaltitude. [15:21] zamabe (~zamabe@unaffiliated/zamabe) joined #highaltitude. [15:26] NickB1 (~NickB@188.189.75.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:28] I will have to repeat it. I have a small balloon that should manage 20km fine [15:28]