[00:08] SelfishMan (~SelfishMa@office.rabidmonkey.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:10] SelfishMan (~SelfishMa@office.rabidmonkey.org) joined #highaltitude. [00:15] Hix (~Hix@87.194.200.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:16] signaleleven_ (81f71fe0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.247.31.224) joined #highaltitude. [00:27] KT5TK_QRL (thomas@66.249.100.36) left #highaltitude. [00:35] flvctvat (4a6fb98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.185.141) joined #highaltitude. [00:50] ckuethe (~ckuethe@node0.mainframe.cx) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:56] http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/155279/IMAG1153.jpg [00:56] that's some burnt in image right there [00:59] http://twitter.yfrog.com/0wusutopshpepnbpmodbgnosz [00:59] XD! [00:59] spacex grasshopper first flight [01:00] (though admittedly you could jump higher) [01:00] good night! [01:01] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54A06EA9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [01:05] signaleleven (~signalele@p579F226F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [01:23] jolo2 (~jolo2@238.112.77.86.rev.sfr.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:30] DrLuke (~Im@p5DD27FC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:53] N4XWC-Shane (45130e28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.19.14.40) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:53] [a]Train (~Vader@ip68-13-124-71.om.om.cox.net) joined #highaltitude. [02:04] Received email: Mike Willis "RE: [UKHAS] Re: Remote tracking of payloads" [02:41] psophis (~golddrago@97-91-255-18.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude. [02:51] BrainDamage (~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-255-140.clienti.tiscali.it) joined #highaltitude. [02:59] justinatomatic (~justin@124-171-20-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #highaltitude. 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[05:11] :P [05:16] hehe [05:32] 6.30 on a saturday [05:32] resent [05:34] Action: Laurenceb_ sets off [05:34] cya [05:39] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-179-248-143.range86-179.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:41] navrac_paris (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:56] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:02] Solarnrg (~1@94-195-174-233.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [06:04] daveake (~daveake@daveake.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:09] @willduckworth: I'm on the train... looking forward to the #ukhas conference today [http://twitter.com/willduckworth/status/249389951576338432] [06:12] Ha. Just saw this on FB from a friend who I can only assume has bought himself a new phone ... [06:12] Good morning this is so much easier with Syria [06:12] Like · · Yesterday at 06:28 via iOS · [06:24] @darksidelemm: Waiting to catch a train to the #UKHAS conference! [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/249393597311508480] [06:27] on bus [06:27] sleepy [06:29] hoping there is coffee at the venue [06:30] nice sunrise over misty oxfordshire though [06:37] daveake (~daveake@daveake.plus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:44] Solarnrg (~1@94-195-174-233.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [07:04] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19683687 [07:04] typically I would have seen this at home :p [07:06] actually looks like a satellite breaking up [07:06] rather than a meteor [07:10] Hiena (~boreger@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [07:17] morning all [07:17] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host86-146-95-104.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [07:23] AndroUser (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-3-16.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [07:24] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host86-146-95-104.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:24] hhhmorning Upu_London [07:24] please can there be coffe [07:24] please [07:24] juices! [07:24] coffee is a juice [07:24] I'd probably grab one on the way in [07:25] of an important bean [07:25] ok [07:25] ginger beer? [07:25] get out [07:25] Nick change: AndroUser -> daveake [07:25] haha [07:26] Here comes the Dark train [07:26] i'm just past hillingdon [07:26] headings towards shepards bush [07:27] found Darkside yet daveake ? [07:27] oh burgundy was the tasting last night eroomde [07:28] Upu_London: oh nice [07:28] a particuar village? [07:28] A few very close to each other [07:28] or rather, any village in particular u liked? [07:28] they're all close to each other :) [07:29] my nose and taste don't have the resolution for being able to tell the difference [07:29] apart from one which smelt of burnt rubber imo [07:29] well, if you had any of beaune or mersault or savigny of aloxe-corton, that's where our stuff is [07:29] I have the list here [07:29] s/of/or [07:30] I decided last night that nice wines like this are wasted on me [07:30] Found Darkside? No I'm hiding from him ... [07:30] oh [07:30] lol [07:31] hi daveake [07:31] Upu_London: keep at it :) [07:31] if you two are next to each other... [07:31] you just need the right pairing of good beef and good red [07:31] we're in different carriages [07:31] there are little doors Darkside between the carriages in the UK [07:31] i know [07:32] don't know if you have those in Oz [07:32] being silly btw I know you don't have trains [07:32] easier to talk via irc anyway [07:32] meatspace not efficient [07:32] lol [07:32] yup [07:32] meatspace lol [07:32] tho phone reception will be patchy [07:33] daveake: there are heaps of free seats back here thho [07:33] flvctvat (4a6fb98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.185.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:33] im not in my booked seat [07:33] booked seat [07:33] lol [07:33] Nor me [07:34] FIGHT THE POWAH [07:34] Family w/2yyr old needed the table [07:35] mm [07:36] sosme yuppies already had my table.. [07:36] you should have gone up to them [07:36] 'JUST PLAY IT A BLOODY WAV FILE' [07:36] and they'd have moved [07:36] but there were so many free seats i didnt care [07:37] eroomde: ill say that in my tal [07:37] just for you [07:37] good [07:37] thanks [07:38] Finished your slides? [07:38] yeah [07:38] daveake: doing them now [07:38] I made some chsnges yesterfay [07:39] Added a joke [07:39] oh god [07:39] daveake: are there many non-reserved seats in your carriage? [07:39] Not many [07:40] 1 next to me [07:40] this is like one of those will-they/won't-they hollywood films [07:40] Lol [07:40] eroomde: shut it, you [07:41] that's such a samatha thing to say [07:41] daveake (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-3-16.dab.02.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:41] daveake (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-8-1.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [07:41] noo [07:41] HABback mountain [07:41] reading? [07:41] It is [07:41] yep [07:41] reading [07:43] next stop, london [07:43] i think [07:43] Yep [07:44] ah, asking each other what they're reading [07:44] you'll find you have so much in common [07:44] It wo. [07:45] It won't last. He'll fly off somewhere [07:45] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) joined #highaltitude. [07:45] Cut me away [07:45] lol [07:46] like a teddy under a parachute [07:46] when habby met hammy [07:47] daveake: i cut you away so you can rise fasrer [07:47] Talking dirty to me already? [07:48] lol [07:48] oh god i need a coffee [07:48] jesus wept [07:48] hahaha [07:48] would that be the kindest cut of all? [07:50] After he strung me along so much? [07:50] Action: Darkside goes backbto his Aphex Twin [07:50] he's put you under so much tension [07:50] you could burst [07:51] I'm going to be so deflated [07:53] He just wanted to tie me up [07:54] he'll strap on his latex and take you into the clouds [07:54] ... [07:54] i've stopped now [07:55] yeah [07:55] i think that last one was on tye line [07:55] tye line? [07:55] He said he was a gas, but he wasn't noble [07:55] he was a lightweight [07:56] We didn't bond [07:56] MrScienceMan (~zo@46.47.80.192) joined #highaltitude. [07:57] heh, plane to the right appears stationary [07:57] it's cos it's landed [07:57] Yeah I thought that [07:57] heh [07:57] daveake (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-8-1.dab.02.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:58] daveake (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-4-16.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [07:58] right at victoria [07:58] gtg [07:58] next stop conf [07:58] cya [07:59] nice day for a launch [08:00] No, left [08:01] @AnthonyStirk: #ukhas 2012 if you can see this turn around http://t.co/HJpXc68a [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/249418223416655872] [08:06] heh [08:06] lul [08:08] well we're almost at paddington [08:09] @adamgreig: Not the smoothest start to the morning but now aboard my train to #ukhas 2012 :D #nobreakfast #norailcard #nooyster #nokindle [http://twitter.com/adamgreig/status/249420167883403264] [08:09] ouch [08:11] breakfast, that's a good point [08:11] wat [08:12] train stopped [08:12] not at the station either [08:13] there we go... [08:13] daveake (~androirc@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-4-16.dab.02.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:13] ok, i'm off to catch my train in [08:21] AndroUser2 (~androirc@82.132.248.202) joined #highaltitude. [08:21] daveake (~androirc@82.132.248.202) joined #highaltitude. [08:23] jcoxon (~jcoxon@kraken.habhub.org) joined #highaltitude. [08:23] hey all [08:23] to get into the building need to go round the other side [08:23] @AnthonyStirk: #UKHAS 2012 Sorry ignore previous you need to come round the opposite side and buzz in [http://twitter.com/AnthonyStirk/status/249423742525136896] [08:25] @Morseman: RT @AnthonyStirk: #UKHAS 2012 Sorry ignore previous you need to come round the opposite side and buzz in sorry about that [08:31] the main door is shut at weekends [08:32] kiwi_ (50d97db4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.217.125.180) joined #highaltitude. [08:33] heh, vehicle struck train bridge, so seems like I'm going to be held up too [08:35] Action: DanielRichman is arriving into waterloo [08:39] only leaving watford junction now, slow running train [08:40] opposite side of what? [08:42] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:44] hurrah for free tube wifi [08:49] @Morseman: The #UKHAS conference will be streamed live on http://t.co/pq7nYJia later [http://twitter.com/Morseman/status/249430231113404416] [08:54] daveake (~androirc@82.132.136.139) joined #highaltitude. [08:54] AndroUser2 (~androirc@82.132.136.139) joined #highaltitude. [09:00] AndroUser2 (~androirc@82.132.136.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:00] daveake (~androirc@82.132.136.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:02] All around the country pilots and ATC are wondering why no NOTAMs this weekend... [09:02] daveake (~androirc@82.132.246.244) joined #highaltitude. [09:03] @Morseman: #ukhas All around the country pilots and ATC are wondering why no NOTAMs this weekend... [http://twitter.com/Morseman/status/249433795093217280] [09:08] daveake (~androirc@82.132.246.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:11] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:12] is teh stream working? [09:13] Penfold (~mike@alysande.altrion.org) joined #highaltitude. [09:15] we is here [09:15] wdb (~chatzilla@541AD901.cm-5-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #highaltitude. [09:15] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [09:20] Hix (~Hix@87.194.200.92) joined #highaltitude. [09:22] oh hi [09:27] gasp. [09:28] eduroam works :D [09:28] Action: DanielRichman is jelly [09:28] :D [09:29] yep [09:29] strawberry jelly? [09:29] eduroam is the best :D [09:29] wait, Randomskk is here? [09:29] ohi [09:29] i see [09:29] evidently Darkside [09:29] hello [09:29] we're sitting in the same room conversing via IRC [09:29] yep [09:29] hiya Darkside [09:29] sup fsphil [09:29] hows life on that end of the bench [09:30] busy with all the really cool stuff we have over here [09:30] daveake (~androirc@82.132.245.55) joined #highaltitude. [09:31] woo irc [09:31] silly phones [09:32] we're too far to chat otherwise [09:32] irc works fine [09:32] also I don't know anyones names :p [09:32] DanielRichman: discovered your lecture timetable then? [09:32] yes [09:32] or lack thereof anyway [09:32] fsphil: that's what the badges are for! [09:32] Randomskk: I failed to use the website [09:32] it's a bit slow on 3g [09:32] its a bit slow full stop [09:33] daveake_ (~Dave@82.132.245.55) joined #highaltitude. [09:33] there's some bloke here who's badge has a blinding light on it, dunno who he is :) [09:33] my eduroam is quite snappy [09:33] got the pdf though. Nothing at 9am [09:33] unlike simrun [09:33] lucky sod [09:33] haha [09:33] mathmos [09:33] my friend had nothing until 10 in first year either [09:33] worked out great as we were sharing a shower [09:33] and I had 9ams every single day [09:33] >.> [09:34] who has 9am every day [09:34] on the other hand, ha ha, you have saturday lectures [09:34] *simrun has [09:34] lol shower buddies [09:34] so does simrun [09:34] I have no saturdays ever, pro part of being engineering [09:34] yay cued [09:39] Upu_London, the bitrate seems to be to low for audio and I'm pretty sure it's on a loop of about 30 secs at the moment [09:39] *too [09:39] hmmm laptop battery [09:40] is it still working Hix? [09:40] audio is ok now, at least for me [09:41] better now fsphil [09:43] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [09:47] @eneylon: @tonyhammond bet you'd rather be at the #ukhas #highaltitude conference - back of name badge shown http://t.co/c1XMtMPW [http://twitter.com/eneylon/status/249444727685013504] [09:50] daveake_ (~Dave@82.132.245.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:50] daveake_ (~Dave@82.132.247.77) joined #highaltitude. [09:54] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54883895.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [09:54] hello [09:54] yo [09:57] evening [10:00] camera can't focus onto jcoxon [10:00] :D [10:03] he's too stealthy [10:03] he even blended into the background [10:06] xD [10:06] LIKE A BUS! [10:09] quiet you :p [10:09] is there a way to get the freq from a balloon in dl-fldigi? [10:10] I only see the baud rate and shift.. [10:11] only if your dl-fldigi is connected to the radio via rig control [10:11] well [10:11] the audio frequency you can get [10:11] it's marked on the waterfall [10:11] or double click on the waterfall [10:14] Randomskk: so can we just say all balloons are sending on 434mHz? Or is there a list? [10:15] ? [10:17] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:17] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:17] sorry, I'm new to this :)....I have a RTL-SDR and want to listen to a Payload...I know the freq. from my own payload but what about the rest? [10:18] oh, right [10:18] usually people tell you [10:18] in the email announcement [10:18] and dl-fldigi knows about it [10:18] ah ok :) [10:18] thanks [10:20] it will also be on the calendar [10:20] DanielRichman: yes I see :) nice.. [10:22] spacekitteh (~spaec@unaffiliated/traumapony) joined #highaltitude. [10:27] chalcy0n: what kind of setup (antenna / amp) do you have, or plan to have for that? [10:28] I see eroomde is demonstrating the jettle principle [10:31] not actually a pulsejet sadly [10:32] bertrik: at the moment I'm using a basic whip antenna but will be using a yagi for long range [10:36] what did ed say the sample rate of the logger was? [10:37] wait. [10:37] 200kHz per channel [10:37] 8ch or something [10:37] 16bit [10:37] iirc [10:37] wasn't it said that for the RTL-SDR you need an extra radio? [10:38] 200kHz, nice [10:40] gonzo__mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.225.54) joined #highaltitude. [10:40] bad focus is back, lol [10:41] he's a cameleon [10:42] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.233.88) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:43] nice room this [10:44] daveake_ (~Dave@82.132.247.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:44] daveake (~androirc@82.132.245.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:47] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54883895.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [10:47] audio screwed on streamng [10:49] should've used ustream [10:50] audio is back [10:50] woo hoo legible [10:51] hopefully tyhe recordings will be fine [10:52] there was nowhere for me to setup my HD camera this time [10:53] UKHAS (9f5cf67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.92.246.123) joined #highaltitude. [10:54] Hi [10:54] sorry about the streaming [10:54] the location blocked RTP going out [10:56] SamSilver (c5572005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.5) joined #highaltitude. [10:56] @jgrahamc: At the #ukhas annual conference talking balloons, rockets and radios. http://t.co/iDPtXlKr [http://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/249462266905374720] [10:58] BrainDamage (~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-255-140.clienti.tiscali.it) joined #highaltitude. [10:58] @jamescoxon: RT @jgrahamc: At the #ukhas annual conference talking balloons, rockets and radios. http://t.co/iDPtXlKr [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/249462732796076032] [10:59] nosebleedkt (~nose@ppp079167006091.access.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:03] nosebleedkt (~nose@ppp079167006091.access.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:05] lol, Upu :') [11:06] nosebleedkt (~nose@ppp079167006091.access.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:06] :) [11:08] MrScienceMan (~zo@46.47.80.192) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:09] sounds buggered again [11:10] nosebleedkt (~nose@ppp079167006091.access.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:10] yip here too [11:10] and back [11:12] inception [11:14] sorry just getting ready for next one [11:16] talk amongst yourselves :) [11:16] is there and ajenda anywhere? [11:17] ahh http://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference2012 [11:18] ola anyone from holland here ? [11:19] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-8-1.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [11:20] was checking for baloons example national weather released one a hour ago but think someone is jamming the signal :S [11:20] at 403,200 MHz a 5KHz wide signal sounds like tx without modulation :( [11:21] it's unusual to get noise around those frequencies [11:21] it could be something local? [11:21] well we have a new radar thingy at the haven here :S [11:22] still would be surprised if they broadcast over the sondes frequences, they're an international standard [11:22] and every time i try to receive 70cm amateurs or 2 meter band i receive blank signals without modulation just silent at -20~-30 dB [11:22] fsphil: well ever seen a radar thing rotate like a wind mill ? [11:23] urg, could be overloading your receiver [11:23] you might need a filter [11:23] i dunno what it is but they transmit grids about 1MHz wide with spikes at -25dB at 1 km distance :S [11:23] fsphil: yes local pager networks and other stuff overload my receiver rtl_sdr with fitipower fc0013 tuner chip thats over sensitive on a telescope whip antenna :( [11:24] all the sdr dongles are not good at handling loud RF sources [11:24] still unsure how to filter this on a 50~900MHz receiver :( [11:24] mine is deaf without filtering [11:24] no you can adjust the gain down to -60dB :) [11:24] instaid f +60dB amplify noise [11:24] bbl [11:25] ok havefun [11:25] if you're wondering why it's quiet, there's a conference going on :) [11:25] http://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference2012 [11:27] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx2-nat-blade-8-1.dab.02.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:27] hmm well i'm still trying to receive the national weather baloons here that are released twice a day but mosthly i mis the time or can't receive a thing due rf noise [11:28] all all gone to the UK :) [11:30] fsphil: also we have trunked radio networks near by from 420 going up some of those are received at multiple locations :( [11:31] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:34] kiwi_ (50d97db4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.217.125.180) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:37] any questions for John ? [11:37] gonzo__mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.225.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:37] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.225.54) joined #highaltitude. [11:38] UKHAS, can you use EEPROM to write to saving SD coming loose etc? [11:38] eeprom not big enough [11:38] not on most AVRs anyway [11:38] solde the sd :) [11:39] +r [11:39] a separate chip [11:39] sodder ;p [11:39] Hix: sure, but a sd card is basically a big eeprom :-) [11:39] FRAM perhaps [11:39] just thinking it could come loose and a chip is tiny so could be on a small board [11:39] sure [11:39] you can get really big flash chips [11:40] and you could do that [11:40] then you'd need a bit of code to dump the data, but thats easy too [11:40] i did that once, had a 32mbit flash chip [11:40] never ended up using it [11:41] micronut v1 has a space for one [11:41] worth looking at though. might play with the idea whaen i can actually code :) [11:41] but yeah, never used [11:41] mm [11:41] sd cards are pretty reliable [11:41] takes a lot of force to knock out a microsd card [11:41] they lock in really well [11:41] spose hot glue would be good enough [11:41] you dont want that tho [11:41] you want to get it out after [11:41] only a wee blob [11:42] mm [11:42] comes off with scalpel easily enough [11:42] but still, uSD card holders are really string [11:42] strong [11:42] just check the code, so it doesn't break if the card does come loose! :D [11:42] yup [11:42] have they got ginger beer for you @linch? [11:42] lunch [11:45] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [11:50] number10 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) joined #highaltitude. [11:50] DrLuke (~Im@p4FCE5067.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [11:51] morning [11:53] hi DrLuke [11:53] aww the stream is hard to understand :/ [11:53] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [11:54] yeah it falls over a bit [11:55] SamSilver (c5572005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.5) left irc: Quit: Page closed [12:08] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) joined #highaltitude. [12:11] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-117-165.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [12:12] zyp (zyp@zyp.im) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:13] flvctvat (4a6fb98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.185.141) joined #highaltitude. [12:17] Any questions for Dave & Phil let me know [12:18] KT5TK-Pi (~root@c-76-30-70-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [12:19] UKHAS: I missed phils bit - did he give an idea of the size of the ssdv code? [12:21] someOne__ (~some@185.80-203-217.nextgentel.com) left irc: Quit: someOne__ [12:25] justinatomatic (~justin@124-171-20-248.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:26] justinatomatic (~justin@124-149-45-254.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [12:30] daveake (~Dave@82.132.213.222) joined #highaltitude. [12:31] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54883895.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [12:32] nosebleedkt (~nose@ppp079167006091.access.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [12:34] any advice on getting Arduino to fire up in Xubuntu? updated java-jre and disabled brltty [12:34] then i get this http://pastebin.com/uBHx8yjR [12:34] hi [12:34] hi nosebleedkt [12:35] i have a question! [12:35] like always [12:35] the GSM antenna [12:35] has that black cover on it [12:35] but the real antenna is a wire inside [12:36] does this black rubber thing has any effect on the signal? [12:36] Im thinking of removing it [12:36] Just a minor effect. [12:36] Try it. If it works, it's ok [12:36] Not an expert, but maybe it's what holds the wire together? [12:37] It's mainly a mechanical protection [12:38] ehh [12:39] I think it does nothing [12:39] just protecting the wire from real world [12:40] Randomskk, SpeedEvil [12:40] any suggestions? [12:42] Since air has a different relative dielectric value than plastic, it may have a slight change of the resonance frequency, but Likely this change is minor. [12:42] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [12:43] jcoxon (~jcoxon@kraken.habhub.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:46] resonance freq? [12:49] xD real world [12:50] nosebleedkt: antennas have frequencies they best work in, they make resonator structures at those frequencies [12:51] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. 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[12:59] that returns the file type info [13:00] hix@Hix-ThinkPad-X201:~/arduino-0023$ file ./arduino [13:00] ./arduino: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable [13:00] likely ./arduino is just a batch starter script, so you need to find the actual executable [13:00] edit ./arduino in a text editor [13:00] and see what it launches [13:05] IRC_ukhas (~astrobiol@188.29.246.218.threembb.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [13:06] Just got interviewed by HAB's nascent press corp :-) [13:10] oh yeah [13:10] i need to find the register guy [13:10] mmm no onions. nice [13:12] UKHAS (9f5cf67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.92.246.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:14] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:15] there is someone playing guitar just outside [13:17] grog (~floating@S0106001a70f81d41.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: [13:17] somebody fix the stream or something [13:17] its off i think [13:17] anthony is going to fix it [13:17] number10 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:18] with the mallet? [13:18] and a bbq [13:18] the bloody bbq [13:18] its like i'm in australia again [13:18] didnt realise you guys had bbqs [13:18] yea, with the sun and stuff [13:18] mmm bbq [13:19] Action: Hix 's stomach rumbles [13:20] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) joined #highaltitude. [13:21] there's a s tr eam [13:22] Upu_Conf (9f5cf67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.92.246.123) joined #highaltitude. [13:22] stream back up [13:23] ish very blocky Upu_Conf [13:23] wireless is choppy as hell here [13:24] there's some amusing exorcist style sounds :D [13:25] thats the baby [13:25] view the swift payload had during the talk, rotated: http://i.imgur.com/5zOqE.png [13:28] how is stream now ? [13:29] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54883895.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [13:30] audio still suffers under the compression [13:30] maybe try ustream? [13:30] number10 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) joined #highaltitude. [13:32] Upu_Conf, it's improved, though still weak [13:32] IRC_ukhas (~astrobiol@188.29.246.218.threembb.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:35] limited to what I can do really sorry [13:36] my 3g through the phone is a it limited too sadly [13:36] eduroam ftw [13:36] we did ask for bandwidth, and no restrictions and radio mikes [13:37] np Upu_Conf [13:38] eduroam? [13:38] fsphil: uni stuff [13:38] if you have an account at a uni, you can usually log on elsewhere [13:39] aaaahs [13:39] Action: Gadget-Mac wanders in [13:40] IRC_ukhas (~astrobiol@188.29.246.218.threembb.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [13:41] poor ed [13:41] ? [13:42] james called him grumpy [13:42] oh lol [13:42] and everyone laughed ;) [13:43] ahh [13:48] raises hand [13:48] heh [13:48] noted :) [13:49] oi, don't hold my hand [13:51] IRC_ukhas (~astrobiol@188.29.246.218.threembb.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:53] wet nylon [13:53] ffs arduino is utter shite in unix too [13:54] we did the calcs once to try and work out whether a bit of AWG28 would vaporise and have its path of ionised air dissipat ebefore the circuit would reclose [13:55] on a 275kv transmission line, this is [13:55] Upus proven RTTY tutorial will not compile, does so in windows 0022 but unix 0022 will not have it... [13:55] problem is, when they trip, they reclose within milliseconds [13:55] it uses java [13:55] and the path ofionised air is still there [13:55] (arduino) [13:56] is java the cause of it's inherent shiteness [13:57] some of it [13:57] but not all [13:57] Hix: you don't really need the arduino ide, you only need the gcc compile options and avrdude commands [13:57] make 2 scripts, and you can use any ide [13:57] what can I use to compile and upload to arduino in xubuntu? Eclipse looks like a pretty involved to set up [13:57] ahh ok, got more info pls? [13:59] something like this should work to flash avrdud e -p m328p -b 115200 -c arduino -P /dev/ttyACM0 -v [13:59] obv 328 is the micro type [13:59] and ttyACM0 is the virtual serial port [14:00] I can't test since I don't have an arduino since a while [14:00] ok, thanks [14:01] http://www.rock7mobile.com/ [14:02] Bundle per Credit Bundle Price [14:02] 50 Credits £ 0.12 £ 6.00 [14:03] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:07] is that double sided Upu_Conf ? [14:07] yes number10 [14:07] ta [14:08] i make all my pcbs through him [14:08] micronuts, osiris boards [14:08] so on [14:08] all through there [14:08] http://www.hackvana.com/ [14:08] sounds reasonable cost [14:08] daveake (~Dave@82.132.214.201) joined #highaltitude. [14:08] mitch@hackvana.com [14:10] or mjd@hackvana.com [14:10] both work i think [14:11] kb9zwl (44be861b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.190.134.27) joined #highaltitude. [14:15] daveake_ (~Dave@82.132.215.123) joined #highaltitude. [14:15] daveake (~Dave@82.132.214.201) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:15] Nick change: daveake_ -> daveake [14:16] zyp that pcb guy does stainless stencils too!! [14:16] huh? [14:16] the stream stopped? [14:16] http://goo.gl/d2qnL [14:17] you were talking stencils yesterday [14:17] ah [14:17] sorry thurs [14:17] 300x400mm $25 [14:17] kin cheap no? [14:17] cheapest I've seen so far [14:18] boards are cheap too 5x5 are ~$18 for 10 [14:18] but what's the resolution? does it beat laser cut kapton/mylar stencils? [14:19] Hix, wait [14:19] seed is cheaper [14:19] think chemical is very fine resolution, they use it for points on fish hooks [14:19] $10 for 10pcs 5x5cm [14:19] +postage [14:19] +~3weeks [14:20] None [14:20] flvctvat (4a6fb98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.185.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:21] Upu_Conf, stresam dead again [14:21] *stream [14:22] it's the workshops now, so not much to watch [14:22] ah ok [14:23] seeed had free shipping [14:23] so just $10 [14:24] number11 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) joined #highaltitude. [14:24] number10 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:25] Nick change: number11 -> number10 [14:25] number10-- [14:25] :) [14:25] 11-- [14:25] I know [14:25] I can't count [14:26] :) [14:27] Earlier, I was the star ... [14:27] ... of JGC's software-bug talk :p [14:27] i missed that [14:27] was it the one where your payload did a zigzag [14:27] You didn't get named but your altitude bug did get mentioned [14:27] Yep [14:27] rounding error [14:28] did he mention the signed altitude - I know I wasnt the only person to do that [14:28] yes [14:28] No names named tho [14:28] But some payloads did get named [14:28] cloud1/2 for example [14:28] ooer http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=8d59b467a73e0b30fcf8095cbc3ed04f7456b157 [14:28] fame [14:28] Yup :p [14:29] Might get to fly little Ted next weekend then [14:29] Mind you, the prediction for tomorrow looked good last Sunday [14:30] there is some bad weather comming over soon [14:30] Supposed to be wet tomorrow [14:30] Hix, «very fine» is relative [14:31] and low pressure hanging around to at least wednesday so high winds [14:31] is it fine enough to do dense qfn? [14:31] None [14:31] kb9zwl (44be861b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.190.134.27) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:32] fishing hooks in size 26 have a VERy fine point, all i'm basing it on [14:36] zyp, apparently 1/4mil http://www.fotofab.com/cmp_etching.php [14:37] does anyone have a makefile for arduino, it's beyond me to do one yet but it seems the most robust way of getting something to work [14:37] installed avrdude [14:38] Hix, that's certainly good enough, but I wouldn't trust those numbers to hold true for any sort of chemical etched stencils [14:38] i'm happy with using gedit to code in, so just need to be able to compile [14:38] email mitch, he'll advise upu recommends him so I'm taking his word on it [14:46] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) joined #highaltitude. [14:47] I also can only recommend mitch [15:00] SamSilver (c5572005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.5) joined #highaltitude. 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[15:45] @jgrahamc: The #ukhas conference badge is fully programmable and usable as the basis for a HAB flight tracker. http://t.co/b8jK4EOI [http://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/249534808861048832] [15:45] daveake (~Dave@82.132.214.201) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:46] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) joined #highaltitude. [15:53] @hmason: So cool, the #ukhas conference badge is also a high altitude flight controller: http://t.co/oaSRIzk1 (via @jgrahamc) [http://twitter.com/hmason/status/249536994085052416] [16:03] daveake (~Dave@82.132.215.123) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:03] hi guys [16:03] Dan Bowen is now streaming [16:04] @eneylon: Felt so welcome at #ukhas and every delegates name badge is the basis for a super-lightweight flight telemetry system #motivated #hacking [http://twitter.com/eneylon/status/249539699847360512] [16:05] totally [16:07] is there a disco next door? [16:07] yes actually [16:07] annoyingly [16:08] lost sound now [16:09] sorry not much as I can do [16:09] as=that [16:09] urg, it's getting louder [16:11] not here as now sound from stream at moment [16:11] -w [16:11] no sound ? [16:11] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [16:11] no [16:11] can someone else confirm that? [16:13] ping hix [16:13] @pablochacin: Cool RT @jgrahamc: The #ukhas conference badge is fully programmable and usable as the basis for a HAB flight tracker. http://t.co/xbi8PGcX [http://twitter.com/pablochacin/status/249541887239794688] [16:13] can't find anything wrong this side sorry [16:13] sound now back [16:17] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [16:19] that's awesome (the conf badge) [16:19] nice one Upu_Conf [16:21] navrac_paris (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) joined #highaltitude. [16:21] see you should have taken a break from your media appointments and come :) [16:23] @ttwick: hmason: So cool, the #ukhas conference badge is also a high altitude flight controller: http://t.co/ezEtzhgS (via @j... http://t.co/2giqckFt [http://twitter.com/ttwick/status/249544338378469376] [16:24] MrScienceMan (~zo@46.47.80.192) joined #highaltitude. [16:31] haha Upu_Conf :) [16:32] lol [16:33] (actually not lol'ing, that would be rude) [16:33] the guy beside daveis falling asleep [16:35] I need a beer [16:36] not long now [16:37] any questions for Dan ? [16:44] how do I get a cool accent like that [16:44] Lunar_Lander (~gd-compto@p54883838.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [16:44] hello [16:53] evening Lunar [16:53] UKHAS are now off to thepub [16:53] bye [16:53] Upu_Conf (9f5cf67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.92.246.123) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:55] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTw7J-hGmg [16:55] ah thats why the streqmings stopped then [16:57] the stream stopped at the point where jcoxon was saying what I would like to see out of this... [16:58] not just me then - assumed it was dodgey hotel internet [16:59] no I think they have to get out of the building - also maybe Upu_London wants a pint ;) [16:59] sadly my high speed line at the motor show got delayed till the morning. [16:59] So in support of the conference goers I shall head out to a local cafe for a pint too. [16:59] they have about 2-3 minutes to clear up [17:00] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:02] @jgrahamc: RT @eneylon: Felt so welcome at #ukhas and every delegates name badge is the basis for a super-lightweight flight telemetry system #moti ... [http://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/249554206388801536] [17:03] Received email: John Graham-Cumming "[UKHAS] Contact info" [17:04] [a]Train_ (~Vader@ip68-13-124-71.om.om.cox.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:05] [a]Train (~Vader@ip68-13-124-71.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:05] Nick change: [a]Train_ -> [a]Train [17:05] ooh, how did the badges look like? [17:06] https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/249534808861048832/photo/1/large [17:07] cool! [17:07] very [17:07] thanks, number10 [17:08] justinatomatic (~justin@124-149-45-254.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:08] justinatomatic (~justin@124-149-71-4.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [17:16] [a]Train_ (~Vader@ip68-13-124-71.om.om.cox.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:16] [a]Train (~Vader@ip68-13-124-71.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:16] Nick change: [a]Train_ -> [a]Train [17:29] treeherder (~cthulhu@nightsoil.org) joined #highaltitude. [17:41] Tiger^ (tygrys@moo.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:42] Tiger^ (tygrys@moo.pl) joined #highaltitude. [17:42] Hoppo (~johnhopki@host86-151-243-148.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:48] Received email: Hoppo "[UKHAS] Well done all!" [18:02] Penfold (~mike@lynx.altrion.org) joined #highaltitude. [18:02] yarite (43b4b81f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.180.184.31) left irc: Quit: Page closed [18:09] Hoppo (~johnhopki@host86-151-243-148.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Hoppo [18:10] Hix (~Hix@host86-140-221-163.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:13] Received email: Merv "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [18:18] Received email: John Graham-Cumming "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [18:27] SamSilver (c5572005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.5) joined #highaltitude. [18:32] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [18:33] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:38] SamSilver (c5572005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.87.32.5) left irc: Quit: Page closed [18:44] Penfold_ (~mike@helcar.altrion.org) joined #highaltitude. [18:46] Penfold_ (~mike@helcar.altrion.org) left irc: Client Quit [18:52] arko (~Arko@lalwut.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:53] Received email: "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [18:54] Upu_London (~UpuMobile@83-244-221-40.cust-83.exponential-e.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:54] arko_ (~Arko@lalwut.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:54] Upu_London (~UpuMobile@83-244-221-40.cust-83.exponential-e.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:56] hi Upu_London [19:01] I think they are still in the pub Lunar_Lander [19:02] ah [19:02] did they go there by bus? [19:02] xD [19:04] Probably walked if in London. ;-) [19:06] yeah [19:07] Like a Bus! [19:12] @kokey: Totally worth it day of #ukhas [http://twitter.com/kokey/status/249587036753887232] [19:17] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [19:18] Hoppo (~johnhopki@host86-151-243-148.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [19:18] Adam012 (57c21a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.26.121) joined #highaltitude. [19:21] Hi, is anyone able to give me a little help tuning fldigi in for the first time? I set up the arduino and nxt2 to transmit, I received the signal just fine on the FT-790 (a slight clicking in the background that was in time with the Arduino led) but I am lost with the fldligi settings. [19:23] dunno if you've seen but http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2 [19:24] probably have though based on what you're saying [19:24] generally though if you right click on the RTTY box bottom left you can change shift etc [19:25] hope that helps [19:33] www.bff-hab.de - new domain aquired :) [19:33] yay! [19:34] The box in the bottom left doesnt have a rtty option, its all BPSK-XXX [19:34] got a screengrab? [19:35] One moment, uploading... [19:35] think most of the community are in the post habfest pub :) [19:35] I am by no means an expert either, but may be able to help [19:36] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings_zps15e8fa74.png [19:36] right, right-click in that box and you should be able to set bits parity etc [19:36] I feel a bit lost so any help is glady welcomed! [19:37] BPSK-XXX [19:37] I'm pretty muc permanently lost with most of the code :D [19:37] ...then you've probably selected BPSK-500 from the Op_Mode menu. [19:37] don't have dl-fldigi on this machine thougfh so all from memorry [19:37] good spelling as usual [19:37] :/ [19:38] Adam012: You're not in --hab mode [19:38] Ah, selected rtty from opmode [19:38] Go to Op_Mode drop-down and select RTTY-something [19:38] ;) [19:38] hab mode just enables online though no? [19:38] @Hix thats what I understood [19:38] not important for testing [19:39] Yeah, and changes the layout, but then autoconfigure will select mode etc. for the payload... [19:39] I'm in Rtty mode but the waterfall does not show two clear lines [19:39] what do you see? [19:39] lots of yellow? [19:39] Yeah, your screenshot is showing a pretty weak signal. [19:40] tuned in properly on RX? [19:40] play and see [19:41] The nxt2 is set for 434.075 as is the radio and fldigi, which should I alter? [19:41] radio [19:46] Tried increasing the radio volume: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings2ndattempt_zps5bcb3d7f.png [19:47] Next tuned the radio and fldigi down to 434.070: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings3rdattempt_zpsaa652c73.png [19:51] navrac_paris (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:52] right widen your shift and move over to about 2300 click there in wf [19:54] Took a deep breath, reread the instructions and realised I had missed a bit. Adjusted baud, etc and now get: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings4thattempt_zps8c1ed73e.png [19:54] Hoppo (~johnhopki@host86-151-243-148.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Hoppo [19:54] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings3rdattempt_zpsaa652c73.png looked better [19:55] shift is 170 at mo change to circa 350 and click about 2300 [19:55] on the two faint yellows [19:55] Hoppo (~johnhopki@host86-151-243-148.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [19:58] what is your code set to? i.e 7 no parity 1 stop etc.. [19:58] but go back to "3rd try" and click on 2300 with ~350 shift [19:58] theres two faint lines there [19:58] looks promising, if weak [19:58] carrier shift to 425, baud to 50, 7 bits per character, no parity and 2 stop bits [19:59] Okay, going back to 3rd settings [20:00] actually shift closer to 300 [20:00] Hi Hix, you said earlier you were only hearing a faint ticking in time with the LED is that correct? [20:00] adjust nutil the two red lines are spaced as the yellows [20:00] not me dude, Adam012 [20:00] Sorry last questions was aimed at Adam012 [20:00] oops! :) [20:00] nps [20:01] shame all the smart peeps are boozing [20:01] XD [20:01] though I am too to be fair but boozing and irc'ing [20:01] :) I just got back from the conference. Missed the pub. [20:01] WHY? [20:01] beer is good for you [20:02] kills germs [20:02] I think I drank enough last night to keep the germs at bay for another month or so! ;) [20:02] never beer has a short halflife [20:03] unlike my hangover this morning which has a half life longer than plutonium [20:04] Upu_London (~UpuMobile@83-244-221-40.cust-83.exponential-e.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:04] hmmm, didnt feel at my best on wakeup [20:05] Okay, I reduced the shift, tuned down to 434.070 and highlighted the upper end of the waterfall: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings5thattempt_zpse4504be5.png [20:05] Adam012, any better or have you banged your head into the desk in frustration [20:06] hmm that signal does look shite [20:06] waht RX have you got? [20:06] *what [20:06] Adam012 something is not right there. If you have the transmitter on your desk next to your receiver you should have a mega strong signal. [20:06] Head banging at the moment. I wish I understood the settings better on both the FT-790 and fl-digi but I've never used radio for anything other than Radio 1, 2, 3 and 4 [20:06] oooh USB orLSB? [20:07] USB [20:07] Where can I find the RX figures? [20:07] should be mega strong [20:07] When you tuned the radio in you said you heard a clicking is that correct? [20:08] Yes, there was a LOT of interference so the clicking was very quiet and in the background [20:09] if you remove the line out can you hear RTTY? [20:09] Then your transmitter is not working. [20:09] I hear a buzz and a warble, like the old dial up. [20:09] You should be hearing a warble of data. It's very obvious and should jump right out at you. [20:10] Yup, in time with the led' [20:10] no [20:10] much faster than the led. 50 times a second in fact. [20:10] :D [20:11] After a little play I can hear a distinct warble on 434.071 [20:11] comme ca http://tenbus.co.uk/icaruscapture_30secs.mp3 [20:11] plug it back in and screengrab [20:12] biam smoke time :) [20:12] That's what you should be hearing. :) [20:13] But it should be even clearer than that if it's on your work bench. [20:14] What antenna are you txing into? [20:14] even with no antenna it should be *very* loud though [20:15] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [20:17] Upu_London (~UpuMobile@83-244-221-40.cust-83.exponential-e.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:18] Oh oh, have received the call from OH to come and get dinner "stop playing with you projects, I've cooked dinner!" thanks for all of the help. I will have another bash at this tomorrow. I can hear the warble just can't get the waterfall to show a signal. [20:19] laptop and RX on dinnertable [maybe not] [20:19] :p [20:20] Wish Kate would stop playing on her computer when I've cooked dinner - I usually end up eating mine and putting hers in the microwave to reheat [20:21] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings6thattempt_zpsca8f818e.png [20:21] Think I have it! [20:21] Adam012, dinner will stay warm till you crack this, its close [20:22] That's more like it. [20:22] Dinner can wait! :) [20:22] |YTtd|YQb9|YTtd,IL2@Eb9| [20:22] still weak though [20:23] c'mon its like rooting for a horse on the national [20:23] Transmitting over and over again. My wife is very understanding and just wants me to not celebrate so loudly with the baby upstairs - big whoop of joy when I received the transmission [20:23] Okay, is that it? [20:23] is that what you were trsansmittinig [20:24] spelling good [20:24] @darksidelemm: On my way back to Bath from the #UKHAS conference! It was great meeting you all! [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/249605010223161344] [20:24] oh man, i missed dr who [20:24] I have no idea, I only skimmed the code...one minute [20:24] heh [20:24] whats in the buffer? [20:24] all the helpful people are at the pub [20:24] I usually torrent them to keep, would you like it on dvd? [20:24] click on op mode. Select RTTY custom [20:24] sorry for the lack of help guys! [20:25] been trying [20:25] drop baud rate to 50 [20:25] from the pub :) [20:25] #dedication [20:25] wait [20:25] you were there? [20:26] XD [20:26] wat [20:26] no, didnt get on list but in A pub :) [20:26] oh lol [20:26] im on a train [20:26] Done, baud 50. The string should be RTTY TEST BEACON RTTY TEST BEACON [20:26] No idea what I'm picking up but the waterfall is in sync with the arduino's outputs. [20:27] set ascii to 7 [20:27] screenshot it [20:27] carrier shift should be 425 [20:27] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.225.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [20:27] crop to waterfall if possible [20:27] Try to get the signal in the middle of the display and position the tramlines of the curser over the top and click [20:28] You probably need to tune up in freq on the 790 a little bit [20:28] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:29] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.228.54) joined #highaltitude. [20:31] Sorry - didn't see this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings6thattempt_zpsca8f818e.png [20:31] Tuned down to .068 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings7thattempt_zps2a18db09.png [20:31] Received email: Darkside "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [20:31] that looks about right but should be a lot louder! [20:32] Adam012: those yellow lines in the centre is the rtty signal [20:32] The volume is set to less than a 1/4 on the radio [20:32] try pressing the Rv button bottom right of display and see if it works [20:32] Should I turn it up? [20:32] learn to recognise it [20:32] more noise [20:33] what did you set 7n1? [20:33] if you are taking audio direct from speaker output then increase it a little, but not too much [20:33] That did the trick! Whooo hoooo! [20:33] If Rv worked you were on the wrong sideband [20:34] RTTY TEST BEACON RTTY TEST BEACON*CF08 - on repeat, loud and clear! [20:34] :D [20:34] RV worked. How do I change the sideband? [20:34] Adam012: are you on usb or lsb on the radio [20:35] USB [20:35] Depends on the TX you are using - is it an NTX? [20:35] Yup [20:35] ok [20:35] Maybe you have the mark and space the wrong way round? [20:35] 434.075 - coming through on 434.068 [20:35] you need to reverse how you set the output [20:35] RTTY TEST BEACON RTTY TEST BEACON*CF08 - on repeat, loud and clear! [20:35] ? [20:35] are you using single pin or 2 pin [20:35] WHOOP!!! [20:35] Dinnertime [20:36] How do I tell the difference? [20:36] uhh [20:36] its how you wired it up [20:36] it's workkng no? [20:36] It's set in either the software, or you could swap the pins on the NTX input round the other way [20:36] upu giude from wiki no? [20:36] is it using 2 pins on the arduino or just one [20:36] It's set up sing the guide http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2 [20:37] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.228.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:37] not sure right [20:37] oh [20:37] one pin [20:37] but you just posted what youwere RXing? [20:37] well [20:38] so it's working no? [20:38] http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:linkingarduinotontx2 [20:38] shit sorry [20:38] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.224.182) joined #highaltitude. [20:38] i think the code is the wrong way around [20:38] RTTY TEST BEACON RTTY TEST BEACON*CF08 [20:38] on train, ceap net [20:38] you need to change the tx bit funcrion [20:38] function [20:39] is what you had on dl-fldigi no? [20:39] @hix yes [20:39] Hix he had to press rv [20:39] when his radio was in USB mode [20:39] so it's all done, Adam012 can appease OH and eat [20:40] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Bye [20:40] Check the wiring and make sure TXD and 0v lines are the right way round and if they are it'l be in the code [20:40] its not quite correct [20:41] G0DJA: if its wired up single pin then its the code [20:41] That's what I was thinking as well Darkside [20:42] i think the code on the wiki is intentionally wrong [20:42] to get people to understand this [20:42] http://twitter.yfrog.com/0wusutopshpepnbpmodbgnosz [20:43] ok my 3g connection is crap [20:43] ill bvl [20:43] bbl [20:44] I've rechecked the wiring and it's fine. I can't spot any problems in the code but I'm not entirely sure what I'm seeking to change. [20:44] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-2-1.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:46] daveake_ (~Dave@host-2-101-146-225.as13285.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:49] I think your ones are zeros and your zeros are ones! [20:49] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-2-1.dab.02.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [20:49] 00011111011011010101 [20:51] 9% battery see you later dudes :) [20:52] Okay, I've switched the rtty txbits around: for (i=0;i<7;i++) // Change this here 7 or 8 for ASCII-7 / ASCII-8 { if (c & 1) rtty_txbit(0); else rtty_txbit(1); c = c >> 1; } [20:53] Now I just get junk, even with RV off [20:54] hmmm [20:55] Hix (~Hix@host86-140-221-163.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:57] it should be { if (c & 1) rtty_txbit(1); else rtty_txbit(0); c = c >> 1; } [20:57] Hix (~Hix@host86-140-221-163.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:57] it should be { if (c & 1) rtty_txbit(1); else rtty_txbit(0); c = c >> 1; } [20:57] Adam012: oyou need to tell fldigi that it's now 7 and not 8. Open up the configuration window, modem, rtty, pick ascii-7 [20:58] Today I got an idea for a cool cutoff system [20:58] basically just got glue together 2 loops of string, and also put a resistor in it [20:59] then put some current through it and the hot glue will melt [20:59] I'm probably not the first one to think of that, right? [21:01] cuddykid (~acudworth@host-78-145-201-41.as13285.net) left irc: Quit: cuddykid [21:02] hot melt gets very brittle at low temps [21:02] navrac_paris (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) joined #highaltitude. [21:02] daveake_ (~Dave@host-2-101-146-225.as13285.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:03] @Hoppo - that's how I have it set up now but still no luck without RV set to on [21:03] oh [21:03] should be like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ttjzl0n3bkvj0i/setup.png [21:06] I had to tweak the shift a bit but it is set up just like that [21:06] Your audio cable's not out of phase is it? [21:07] It's a simple 3.5mm to 3.5mm headphone cable, through a Asus Xonar U3 USB sound card [21:08] It's probably a small change to the code that is needed but damned if I know what to do. Thank you to everyone for sticking with this, it feels like I'm so close! [21:08] I just tried the code, cut and paste from the website and it runs fine here. [21:08] i missed a bit of this conversation as my connection dropped out - but your red lines do line up withthe yellow ones on the waterfall dont they? [21:09] Yes, dead on (I have orange/red lines on the waterfall. [21:10] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:10] Hix (~Hix@host86-140-221-163.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:11] looking at Settings2ndattempt_zps5bcb3d7f.png they dont look like modulated lines to me [21:11] Hiena (~boreger@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:12] maybe i missed some images [21:12] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings7thattempt_zps2a18db09.png is where he's now at [21:13] for some reason needs to use rv on fl-digi [21:14] rev is if youve tuned to the image of the signal rather than the signal [21:15] ooh how do you do that? [21:15] After lots of fiddling with the code I just switched the HIGH LOW triggers and it worked! [21:15] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-117-165.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:16] Thank you all, I've finally got there and the signal is very clear (or so it seems to me :-) ) [21:17] it means if the signal is say 434.000 mhz and youve selected usb you would tune above by 1khz to get the tone at 1khz - however you can also get an image at 433.999 which is reversed [21:17] or youve set lsb instead of usb on the rx [21:17] got you [21:18] or youve copiedmy code where i got it wrong! [21:18] chrisstubbs (56a08496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.160.132.150) joined #highaltitude. [21:18] evening all [21:19] good evening [21:19] Evening guys [21:20] Just started watching the conference vids, Interesting stuff :) [21:20] Lucasbuck (~matt@host86-182-8-97.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [21:20] are they up on youtube now? [21:20] yep just replicated Hix's issue by doing exactly what you said [21:20] ah not hix, Adam012 [21:20] :) [21:21] Okay, the problem lay with the code and the small change means I am now transmitting loud and clear. [21:22] no. The code is fine. It looks like your radio is on LSB instead of USB [21:22] HEnce why your tuning in off frequency [21:23] Radio definitely set to USB [21:24] try tuning to the other side of the signal [21:24] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.224.182) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:25] Received email: Jon Sowman "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [21:25] Received email: Eamonn Neylon "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [21:25] Received email: Neil Baker "Re: [UKHAS] Well done all!" [21:26] chrisstubbs - are the videos online now? [21:26] Yes they are, sorry, http://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference [21:27] that's the previous year [21:28] How did i not notice! haha [21:28] silly me [21:28] :P [21:28] PhilVeale (~pveale@145.116.187.81.in-addr.arpa) joined #highaltitude. [21:28] navrac_paris_ (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) joined #highaltitude. [21:29] lousy hotel internet [21:30] navrac_paris (c365cb43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.101.203.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:33] thats clever - i get to see my own quit messaege [21:33] :) [21:33] With the alteration to the code: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/Settings8thattempt_zps8de591be.png [21:38] but your 3 or 4k off frequency, which shouldn't happen on the work bench if you have your resistor values correct. [21:38] XD [21:39] I just wonder if a regular talk on Google Hangout is a good idea? [21:39] like discussing HAB weekly [21:39] and they'll automatically save it to youtube [21:40] but everyone needs Google+ to join the talk [21:41] @PD3EM: Had a great today at the #UKHAS Conference in London! Now on my way back home ... [http://twitter.com/PD3EM/status/249624483164471296] [21:43] Lunar_Lander: thats a good idea [21:43] have a regular google hangout for habbera [21:43] habbers [21:44] it would be nice to have a weekly online meet to discuss what people are up to - good for giving ideas and picking up hints if you are showing your projects [21:45] yea [21:45] is this voice chat rather than text? [21:46] or video [21:46] yeah [21:46] Laurenceb: do you recall where/if you found the sensitive diameter of the tmp006 ? the window is (not dimensioned) I guess .5mm square. but how large is the sensor. (wondering about resolution for _narrow_ angle temp sensing [21:46] yea text would have been a bit pointless [21:46] im just gutted i missed the conf. My job got moved forward tow days [21:48] This is my setup: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/20120922_224200_zpsdcc3c94b.jpg [21:49] PhilVeale (pveale@145.116.187.81.in-addr.arpa) left #highaltitude. [21:49] is the board 5v? [21:50] Yes [21:50] I set it up as per the instructions on the guide (4.7k and 47k resistors) [21:51] isnt that for a 3v3 arduino though? [21:51] You need 20k resistor for the 5v I think [21:52] I don't think so, the guide recommended a 20k resistor for 3.3V [21:52] maybe not - im an rfm user so not au fait with the ntx [21:52] Our final board will be a 3.3V arduino mini pro [21:52] ah ok [21:53] but for now I am stuck with my development board; an Arduino Uno R3 [21:53] change to the pro before you get the gps! [21:54] yea [21:54] that's cool. it should be fine. But the frequency should be spot on at 433.075 [21:54] whilst you're testing [21:54] on the bench. [21:54] with the receiver 2 ft away. ;) [21:54] *434? [21:55] oops yeah 434! [21:55] :) [21:57] evening all [21:57] hi fsphil [21:57] hi fsphil [21:58] daveake_ (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-7-56.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:58] has been a brilliant day [21:58] Here are my radio settings: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/cazbuh/20120922_224832_zps5b752872.jpg [21:59] Evening fsphil :-) [21:59] Got the bus ok? [21:59] did indeed [21:59] jolly good [21:59] I've got the cheap train home [21:59] you on the train now? [21:59] Yep [22:00] slower train and a high percentage of undesirables [22:00] Nick change: daveake_ -> daveake [22:00] hehe, my bus was similar [22:00] :) [22:00] nobody likes to make eye contact, all watching the floor [22:00] Yupi is up to £58, so that's getting better [22:01] yeah, same here. Well, they all pretend to be asleep to avoid being asked "is that seat taken?" [22:01] cunning [22:02] moving now; hal;f of them have woken up [22:02] hi daveake [22:02] Looking promising for next Saturday http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=8d59b467a73e0b30fcf8095cbc3ed04f7456b157 [22:02] hi LL [22:02] How come you didn't come over for the conf? [22:02] I'm looking at what to do tomorrow [22:03] I think it's supposed to pi$$ down in which case I won't be flying a pico [22:03] daveake, we earlier discussed a discussion round on Google Hangout on a regular basis [22:03] what do you think about that? [22:04] Rain from 9am to 6pm according to BBC [22:04] you discussed a discussion? [22:04] sounds exciting [22:04] Don't we have an IRC channel for discussions? [22:04] Hi Hoppo, any more thoughts> [22:04] I consider we discuss this more [22:05] I propose discussing your consideration [22:05] IAdam012 don't understand how you can be 8k off frequency. [22:05] I'll consider discussing it, for a considerable consideration [22:06] number10 (569e1af1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.241) left irc: Quit: Page closed [22:06] not bad considering [22:07] @Hoppo - neither do I, perhaps it's the radio? [22:07] wossup? [22:08] What happens if you tune it to 434.075 and change the radio to LSB? [22:09] I've set up a 5V Arduino with a NXT2 transmitter to test out the Yaesu FT-790R I have on loan and to prove that I can get it all working. The NXT2 is 434.075Mhz but the radio (next to it on my dining room table) is picking it up at 434.067? [22:09] oh that's prefectly normal [22:09] it can be +/- 15khz [22:10] depending on the resistors used, and other factors [22:10] my 434.650 always seemed to run at 434.670 [22:10] hi daveake, he's working through the tutorial but can only get a signal on USB if he's 8k off frequency and switched the High Low triggers in the code. [22:10] also remember your tune will be off by the audio frequency [22:11] so if your carrier is being heard at 2kHz on the waterfall [22:11] the way we drive the ntx2 is beyond what it was designed for, and frequency error is to be expected [22:11] then your radio is tuned 2kHz away from the actual signal [22:11] also the radio itself will have some error [22:11] gosh I thought no one would be back on irc already [22:11] all three of my radios are slightly different [22:12] so why the need to change the triggers in the code? [22:13] not sure what you mean by that [22:13] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-7-56.dab.02.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:13] @darksidelemm: My #UKHAS conference badge LED is *still* going! [http://twitter.com/darksidelemm/status/249632589957197826] [22:14] pix of badges plz [22:14] in the arduino code he's changed the digitalWrite(RADIOPIN, LOW); to high and vice versa [22:14] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-5-1.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:14] silly batteries [22:14] Okay, after a lot of fiddling with the radio and changing the code back to the original code from the guide I have a working transmission on LSB at 434.071! [22:15] it should be USB, but hey :) [22:15] Adam012: don't worry about the centre freq being wrong [22:15] make sure dl-fldigi is set to USB [22:15] Waterfall shows two clear lines in yellow and red [22:15] as long as it's not too near the band edges it doesn't matter [22:15] Tuned wrong side, or 0/1 swapped in code, or fldigi Rv button pressed [22:16] Slough. Bound to lose some undesirables here. [22:16] When I put the code in the first time I was picking up text but garbled. Pressing RV decoded it. I then changed the code and could get the text without having to press RV. [22:17] I only knough slough from the work of John betchemen [22:17] fsphil_london (~phil@82.132.139.247) joined #highaltitude. [22:17] is USB selected in fldigi? [22:17] Since then, I've tried lots of different frequencies with the radio set to usb but couldn't get the original code to work. [22:17] http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/intuition/Slough.html [22:19] Okay, back in USB on radio and fldigi - receiving at 434.068 just fine. [22:20] nice [22:20] good [22:20] side band can be tricksy [22:20] but it's worth getting it right [22:21] It's easy when the transmitter is close to the receiver to think you're tuned in right but to not be [22:21] @SpeedEvil - I feel much the same about Milton Keynes. [22:21] What I do is turn the receiver frequency down a notch, and the audio should then go up in frequency. If it goes down then you're not tuned in correctly. [22:22] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-5-1.dab.02.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:22] If I turn the frequency down a notch on the radio the lines jump up the waterfall (to the right) [22:23] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-2-1.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:31] Adam012: thats how it should be [22:32] Fantastic, it seems that everything is now sorted out. Thanks to everyone who has pitched in with advice and thoughts! I'm going to get to bed now, next step is receiving GPS. [22:33] :-) [22:34] hey fsphil home safe ? [22:35] Good night all! [22:35] @daveake: Thanks to James and Anthony for organising the #UKHAS conference, to all the other speakers for their talks, and to everyone who came along. [http://twitter.com/daveake/status/249638061632286720] [22:37] Reading done. The train is much lighter now; maybe it will speed up [22:37] heh [22:38] mine was slow [22:38] or it seemed slow [22:39] chrisstubbs (56a08496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.160.132.150) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:40] Adam012 (57c21a79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.26.121) left irc: Quit: Page closed [22:40] daveake, the insurance in germany question is solved I think [22:40] Upu_London, aye! back in one piece [22:41] on coach [22:41] gonna have a nice lazy day tomorrow [22:41] after 2nd dinner in chinatown [22:41] yes me too [22:41] dr who, thick of it, toast [22:41] definitely toast [22:42] then maybe science museam [22:42] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-2-1.dab.02.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:42] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-7-56.dab.02.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:42] fsphil_london: yessss [22:42] so science museum [22:42] do* [22:43] LL How is it solved? You're relying on the law changing before you launch? [22:43] Europe being overthrown my the moon people? [22:44] Upu_London I'll email fsphil's pal DM on Monday [22:44] See if I can get permission for next weekend [22:44] All being well I'll order the gas on Wednesday [22:44] I should go visit him [22:44] daveake, mclane showed me an insurer who covers it [22:45] G0DJA_ (~chatzilla@88-97-37-189.dsl.zen.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [22:46] G0DJA (~chatzilla@88-97-37-189.dsl.zen.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [22:46] Nick change: G0DJA_ -> G0DJA [22:46] LL cool [22:47] Penfold_ (~mike@alysande.altrion.org) joined #highaltitude. [22:47] yeah [22:48] Penfold (~mike@lynx.altrion.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [22:49] can't be long now then? [22:50] yeah [22:50] my teammates and I aim for the end of october [22:50] daveake (~Dave@dab-bhx1-nat-blade-7-56.dab.02.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:50] fantastic [22:52] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host86-146-95-104.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:52] nice [22:52] yo jcoxon q [22:52] q = typo [22:55] hey [22:56] on the bus? [22:56] hey jcoxon [22:56] we should organise regularish google+ hangouts or something [22:56] that we can get multiple people on [22:56] jcoxon: yes [22:56] shepards bush [22:58] yeah I had that idea and Darkside liked it [22:59] yup [22:59] sweet conference, i stayed up till 5am to watch it [22:59] lol [23:00] :) [23:00] :) [23:00] then fell asleep, too tired [23:00] was good, although now I have to add unit tests to all my code :) [23:01] did dan fly over for it? [23:01] i missed his talk [23:03] not specifically for this [23:03] just good timing I think [23:04] worked out well, dan's just arrived and mark's just leaving [23:04] cool :) [23:04] hehe [23:04] hey natrium42 [23:05] I'm sure that wasn't a coincidence :) [23:05] hi james [23:05] the videos will be on a youtube [23:05] bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) joined #highaltitude. 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