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[11:15] MoALTz (~no@host-92-8-238-15.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:17] it's a slow sunday morning here :) [11:17] also cold. too cold for june [11:17] yes, too cold [11:17] It's so slow here it's still Saturday [11:18] that is bad daveake [11:21] afternoon all [11:21] hi en4rab [11:21] have you all seen the hack to turn a £15 realtek 2832U based USB DVB stick into a software defined radio, i thought it might be of interest to you as a cheap radio for tracking [11:21] Yup it think a number of people are working with them now [11:22] don't worry we didn't miss it :) [11:22] i tried tracking a flight a week or so ago but i dont have a decent antenna [11:22] oh thats a point, i need to get the preamp boards sent off [11:22] yeah [11:22] fff [11:22] ok [11:22] will do it tonight [11:22] Action: Upu poke [11:23] not that we care we're all on holiday over here Darkside [11:23] ahh crap the guy isnt online [11:23] heh [11:26] yay holidays [11:27] If any of you are messing with the dvb dongles this software is a promising alternative to HDSDR http://sdrsharp.com/ the Dev (continuous integration) builds have builtin support for the RTL dongles [11:28] MoALTz_ (~no@host-92-2-118-135.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [11:31] this is assuming we are using windows [11:32] indeed, but gnuradio is a bit beyond what i care to fight with just to listen to stuff [11:32] BrainDamage (~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-241-11.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:33] i'm more interested ins eeing GQRX work at the moment [11:33] it works fine on linux, just has some problems on OSX atm [11:33] I must try that again [11:33] I kept running into problems compiling it [11:33] zamabe (~zamabe@unaffiliated/zamabe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:47] daveake (d49f57d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.159.87.211) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:50] Lunar_Lander_ (~gd-dirac@p548825FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [11:50] hello [11:50] flights due next weekend I read? [11:51] r2x0t (~r00t@b607.praha.cas.cz) joined #highaltitude. [11:57] http://ukhas.org.uk/general:upcoming_launches [11:58] ah sweet, gqrx works [11:58] fsphil: cool :D [11:59] and it doesn't suck! [11:59] haha [11:59] its beena while since i've tried it [11:59] don't know how much has changed [12:01] it's much nicer than spectravue [12:02] theres a fork that works with the RTL dongles [12:02] Upu: i've requested a quote for the filter/preamp pcbs [12:04] http://sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/adsb/adsb_en.html <<< nice [12:06] haha i've actually built one of those [12:06] well, the miniadsb part of it [12:06] a friend of mine is doing the pic side of it [12:07] the miniadsb is very expensive [12:07] 10 parts and then 50¬? [12:07] may an antenna with a RTL dongle will also work [12:08] I can't tune the fcd from within gqrx, have to use qthid [12:08] joph: this doesn't require a pc though [12:08] it can all be done in a micro [12:08] that's true [12:08] but yes, its quite expensive [12:08] probably because of the PCB [12:08] i think so [12:09] cause it looks like homemade pcb and no commercial dealer for the pcb [12:09] its not homemade [12:09] the PCB just costs 6¬ [12:09] its properly manufactured [12:10] 6¬ is okay, may i'll order one [12:10] hopefully you can find the other components [12:10] the ADS-B SAW filter is probably the hardest to find i think [12:10] 5¬ shipping, he could send it in a letter... [12:11] wow, no TA1090EC on ebay [12:12] well its the standard saw filter footprint [12:12] DCC6C [12:12] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-168-105-99.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:12] but i wouldn't expet them to be that easy to get hold of [12:12] even nothing on alibaba [12:13] yeah i think this is the problem [12:14] that saw filter is likely the expensive component [12:15] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.232.223) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:15] oh wow ok it has 2 saw filers on it [12:15] yeah ok, thats where the cost comes from [12:15] may he orderd 100pcs from the manufactor ;) [12:15] i bet those aren't cheap [12:16] gonzo_mob (~gonzo_mob@213.205.232.95) joined #highaltitude. [12:16] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-131-174-65.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:17] in theory at least the realtek dvb sticks could do ads-b, but they are a bit iffy getting them to tune to 1090Mhz [12:18] they won't be very sensitive either [12:18] putting a SAW filter + LNA in front would help again [12:19] for proper ADS-B decoding you need to oversample little bit, so you can decode overlapping bursts [12:19] RTL dongle will for non-overlapping bursts that are very strong [12:19] it's also possible to use an receiver circuit from a sat receiver [12:19] probably comparable with this ADS-B PIC project if you add filter and preamplifier [12:19] i'll try this [12:20] was there an fcd firmware update? I updated qthid and now it won't detect the dongle [12:20] i'm on something j [12:20] there's FPGA based ADS-B receiver board that's much better [12:21] nice [12:21] if you want to throw fpga's at it then ettus research is the place to start looking [12:21] cef (~cef@luv/admin/cef) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:21] i'll have a look at the junkyard this wednesday [12:22] may I can get a few receiver ;) [12:23] cef (~cef@luv/admin/cef) joined #highaltitude. [12:33] thx number10 [12:33] andrew_apex (~chatzilla@188-220-169-100.zone11.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [12:35] hah, I copied and pasted the udev rule for the fcd, and they'd misspelled SUBSYSTEMS [12:35] :| [12:36] I was beginning to think I'd broke it [12:38] gqrx keeps seg faulting [12:39] i <3 segfaults [12:40] i don't feel i've dealt with enough of them in the past week [12:40] :| [12:40] finally back on twitter [12:41] may I use the ukhas logo as interim profile picture? [12:41] I don't think anyone is going to mind [12:42] thanks [12:42] yep, constant segfaults. this will be fun [12:42] have fun [12:42] Action: jonsowman throws gdb at fsphil [12:43] #0 0x0000003478a05267 in libusb_submit_transfer () from /lib64/libusb-1.0.so.0 [12:43] yay it's in a library [12:43] it could be the call to that library [12:43] i.e. gqrx is calling that method when it shouldn't be [12:43] but that method is doing something which then segfaults [12:44] libusb_submit_transfer(dev->transfer); [12:44] I think there's a race condition going on [12:44] does anyone of you use Twitter too? [12:44] it doesn't sound likely that the segfault is inherently libusb's fault [12:45] yea, it's a well tested library [12:47] Lunar_Lander_: er sometimes, @jonsowman [12:47] I'll let you guess what my twitter name is [12:47] lol [12:48] xD [12:49] mine is HighAltitudeLab but somehow the people search doesn't show that yet [12:49] but I followed you now [12:49] I don't say much on there [12:49] You can't say much on there. [12:49] nick_: that's often for the best [12:50] XD [12:50] hah [12:50] hmm.. it seems to fire up a new thread each time it tunes the fcd [12:50] sometimes it crashes, sometimes not [12:50] hmm [12:50] threading issue? [12:50] yea [12:51] chris_99 (~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Read error: No route to host [12:51] OK [12:51] be back later [12:52] Lunar_Lander_ (~gd-dirac@p548825FE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [12:53] chris_99 (~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [12:53] another crash also accessing the dev handle [12:54] segfault again? [12:57] yea [12:57] Lunar_Lander_ (~gd-dirac@p548825FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [12:57] damn trains, damn time, damn parents fighting [12:57] my motivation dropped to sub-zero [12:57] sub-zero kelvin [12:58] lol [12:58] you can't argue with time [12:58] the other two maybe [12:59] yea [13:02] damn my library card is downstaris [13:02] nothing worked so far today [13:02] save for signing up on twitter [13:04] me neither [13:04] having a nice dull day [13:08] yeah [13:08] thanks for following me jonsowman [13:08] the german posts are to two people who do TV critics [13:08] xD [13:09] lol ok [13:09] damn [13:09] my clock turns black sometimes [13:09] the top bar clock in ubuntu [13:09] Wil5on (~Wil5on@27-32-3-201.static.tpgi.com.au) joined #highaltitude. 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[13:27] ah [13:28] stdout and stderr are pseudohandles you can use [13:28] or open output files using FILE *f = fopen("blah.txt","wt"); fprintf(f,"doh!"); fclose(f); [13:28] nick_ (~nick_@client-80-0-210-99.bkl-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) left irc: Quit: to the lab [13:29] oh [13:29] ah! [13:30] so that would creat blah.txt, write doh! in it? [13:30] yes [13:30] http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdio/fprintf/ [13:30] ^ very good web for C/C++ basics [13:31] yeah I actually have that PDF he got printed and bound [13:31] but I never came past "hello world" [13:31] :( [13:38] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-139-202.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [13:40] Helios (~92leapyea@94-195-174-233.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [13:41] right, bbq time. bbl :) [13:42] BBQ ? [13:42] you got our sun again ? [13:43] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-139-202.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:43] afraid not, it's freezing [13:43] but that doesn't stop us :) [13:44] XD! [13:44] hey Upu [13:45] Upu, your GPS with sarantel antenna is amazing [13:45] I thought I told you how I got lock in 20 seconds and in the styrofoam box it took about 30 seconds [13:47] thats quite quick [13:47] thin roof ? :) [13:47] XD yea the box had a thin lid [13:48] on the first try I had the breadboard placed on some metal grid chair that they have in front of the physics dept. [13:48] glad its working anyway [13:48] so clear sky view [13:48] yeah [13:48] when you launchign ? [13:48] this summer hopefully, I'm currently on the GPS code, later I'll try if I can read the GPS via the arduino [13:49] and I got a canon A490 as suggested by daveake [13:49] Just finishing a Wiki page on connecting GPS to Arduino [13:49] http://ava.upuaut.net/store/wiki/doku.php?id=levelconvertor [13:49] might help [13:49] its meant for a new board I have for the shop [13:51] ah [13:51] voltage div? [13:51] and a regulator [13:51] ah, the power supply! [13:52] http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=68 [13:52] voltage div does not really apply as I got the 3.3V arduino [13:52] oh in that case you don't need this one [13:53] yeah [13:53] oh and I got a mega, so I try my luck connecting it to UART 1 [13:53] as I learned that UART 0 is occupied when code is uploaded [13:57] en4rab (~chatzilla@188-220-252-46.zone11.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725] [13:59] good idea Upu? [13:59] does it work ? [13:59] not yet tested [13:59] will do in a few minutes [13:59] k [14:02] but I found it is no problem to power the GPS via the FTDI [14:04] chris_99 (~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:05] chris_99 (~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [14:09] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. 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[14:48] yeah the old times [14:48] G0DJA (~chatzilla@88-97-37-189.dsl.zen.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:48] Nick change: G0DJA_ -> G0DJA [14:48] on the other hand we like still use Baud which disappeared when DSL was there [14:53] SamSilver_ (2985f56c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:58] daveake (d49f57d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.159.87.211) joined #highaltitude. [15:00] Wil5on (~Wil5on@compsci.adl/eternalpresident/wil5on) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:36] ((colour*) ((double*) (float*) &((bong*)&dong)->putSmoke(((bong*)&dong)->getSmoke()))->getSmell() )->isPsychedelic() ? HIGH : LOW [15:57] jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) joined #highaltitude. [16:32] XD! [16:42] i've seen fn's as bad as thag [16:43] daveake (d49f57d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.159.87.211) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:44] MrScienceMan (~zo@46.47.80.192) joined #highaltitude. [16:54] jdtanner (~Adium@host86-155-32-94.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [16:55] Afternoon all. [16:57] daveake (~daveake@daveake.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:00] ^ph (~ph@0x57393b9c.srnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:04] hi jdtanner daveake MrScienceMan [17:07] anyone know a good SEO service? [17:07] BrainDamage (~BrainDama@dynamic-adsl-78-12-241-11.clienti.tiscali.it) joined #highaltitude. [17:11] hello [17:12] I've got a wee Ublox question if anyone is about? I'm looking at existing code to set the airborne mode and the following seems to be being used: [17:12] uint8_t setNav[] = {0xB5, 0x62, 0x06, 0x24, 0x24, 0x00, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0x06, 0x03, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x10, 0x27, 0x00, 0x00, 0x05, 0x00, 0xFA, 0x00, 0xFA, 0x00, 0x64, 0x00, 0x2C, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x16, 0xDC}; [17:12] I've tried to get my head around where that has come from (with reference to the Ublox docs) but I think I need a hint& :/ [17:13] where did that come from? [17:13] you don't need to set the entire message [17:13] since you can mask off the bits you dont want to change [17:13] It has come from quite a few places& but here is one http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:picoatlas:picoatlasi [17:14] okay [17:14] well it should work [17:14] basically you have 2 sync bytes [17:14] then 2 command bytes [17:14] then 2 length bytes [17:15] then variable length message [17:15] then 2 checksum bytes [17:16] ok [17:16] you want the ublox protocol spec sheet [17:16] http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:falcom_fsa03 [17:16] which is excellent bedtime reading [17:16] there are some command on here [17:17] Yeah, I'm trying to get my head around the ublox protocol :/ [17:17] it's actually very simple (the above frame format) [17:17] but there are /so many/ different messages [17:17] that is the problem I'm having&trying to figure out the message to send [17:18] search the spec sheet for the command bytes [17:18] 0x06 0x24 [17:19] yeah, got it&seems like french ;) [17:21] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [17:27] XD [17:28] where do I find the ublox protocol? [17:28] somewhere on their website I suspect [17:29] http://www.u-blox.com/images/downloads/Product_Docs/u-blox6_ReceiverDescriptionProtocolSpec_%28GPS.G6-SW-10018%29.pdf good luck! [17:29] If you figure it out you can explain it to me [17:29] :) [17:32] https://github.com/cuspaceflight/joey-m/blob/master/firmware/gps.c [17:32] some of this might help [17:35] thanks [17:35] begining to regret wanting to understand rather than resuse code :) [17:47] thanks jdtanner [17:48] brb, restart [17:52] Lunar_Lander_ (~gd-dirac@p548825FE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:57] jonsowman: you said about masking off the bits that you want to leave alone [17:57] i seem to remember [17:57] when sending CFG type messages [18:11] well that was the second coldest bbq I've been [18:11] to [18:12] Lunar_Lander (~gd-dirac@p548825FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:12] back [18:12] back where Doc? [18:21] to the future probably [18:21] Raniania (~Raniania@95.211.14.93.rev.sfr.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:21] Raniania (Raniania@95.211.14.93.rev.sfr.net) left #highaltitude. [18:21] XD! [18:21] btw I completed BTTF II today and started reading part III [18:21] I am already at the point before marty travels back to 1885 [18:22] in the book the DeLorean in the mine still has tires but they are like all dried out and crumble [18:22] in the film there are only the rims left [18:23] the third film was the best I think [18:23] yea [18:24] "Just get some petrol doc" [18:24] "Well, there won't be a gas station here till the next century. (camera moves in, doc makes a scared face) And without gas, we won't get the DeLorean to 88 miles per hour!" [18:27] So can we expect you to build your payload as a DeLorean replica? Should easily make 88mph on the way down [18:27] gb73d (gb73d@81-178-188-30.dsl.pipex.com) left irc: Quit: Whoosh we're gone [18:31] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-131-174-65.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [18:31] DO1SEC (~do1sec@p4FFE046B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [18:31] nosebleedkt (~nosebleed@ppp141237150165.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [18:33] now that is an idea XD [18:36] Astrobiol (~Go.vertit@cpc2-sotn9-2-0-cust145.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:38] hello Astrobiol and nosebleedkt [18:39] Hello, has anybody done any Jubilee ballooning? [18:39] Could you build a valve-based balloon transmitter, just for the hell of it? [18:40] no, but I tested my GPS and that was quite OK [18:40] you /could/ [18:40] not sure that you should [18:40] glass in a payload just seems a bad idea [18:40] The idea is madder than mad Jack McMad on a mad day [18:41] BoggleJon (~androirc@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:41] a tube radio? [18:41] aah good old Jack [18:42] Yes, valves seem a bit of a waste for 10mw. But any of advantage for other frequencies? I know some people have been trying HF for instance [18:42] valves don't have any advantage over transistors [18:42] (well I hear they're better at handling mismatched loads) [18:42] Strictly just for fun :-) [18:43] can you even buy valves? [18:43] http://www.b3tards.com/u/037e58b9e054b3c8dd7b/queenjubilee_01.jpg [18:44] Yes you can, and in fact I know a guy at UCL who stumbled across an ancient storeroom full of them. They're also in demand for high-end amps etc [18:44] aah audiophiles [18:44] Well they'd keep the payload warm [18:45] would give the signal a warmer sound [18:46] I guess an AM transmitter would be easy to make with them [18:46] I just feel that I am at some fundamental useless at microelectronics (PC104 misadventures etc) and so perhaps I should go the other direction for the vintage look? [18:46] one sec please [18:46] Yeah audiophiles ... the type of person who buys a $485 wooden knob - http://boingboing.net/2005/11/07/astronomically-overp.html [18:47] when you want to reference someone on Twitter do you like write #CUSpaceflight or so? [18:47] PC104 is pretty vintage itself [18:48] PC104 --> valves. Well one day the random jumps will land on something workable [18:48] just use an arduino, they work almost all the time :) [18:48] fsphil, btw BTTF III reference! [18:48] where doc repairs the time circuits with the tubes [18:48] xD [18:49] that thing on the front hood [18:49] hah [18:49] Exactly fsphil :-) but still used quite a lot. One of the smallest (pre-Pi?) footprints for a complete computer. Also quite a simple bus - typically just a couple of bytes for each board in the stack. Recently some heavily armoured stacks have been made [18:50] depends what you're doing I guess, but for almost everthing I'd ever consider flying a simple avr-based system works well. the Pi will probably get flown too :) [18:51] although I'll wait until they're a bit more available, don't want to loose this one in the ocean just yet [18:51] Gotta go, just roasting my supper on some dusty UCL valves [18:51] nice [18:51] stoke me a kipper! [18:51] XD [18:51] what will be there for supper? [18:51] why me of course [18:52] I'll be back for breakfast... [18:52] btw fsphil that strange thing with the clock on ubuntu turning black first expanded to other menues [18:52] and after restart it seems to have vanished [18:52] that's the reference :) [18:52] Action: SpeedEvil ponders hybrid kipper-LOX engines. [18:53] aah, my new fedora 17 desktop's been doing weird crap too [18:56] Astrobiol (~Go.vertit@cpc2-sotn9-2-0-cust145.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:01] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:01] jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:04] btw [19:05] when I get it right i have to find out what version number the firmware on the PowerShot has so that I can get the correct CHDK right? [19:06] hi everybody! [19:07] hello [19:07] nosebleedkt, I got a PowerShot A490 [19:07] oh [19:07] means I can finally take photos of the geiger and stuff [19:07] same as mine? [19:07] that could be [19:07] daveake recommendet it [19:07] xD [19:07] i think i got 490 [19:07] *recommended [19:07] ah [19:07] download the latest chdk [19:08] ah just the latest? or do I have to watch out for the firmware? [19:08] no [19:08] seek for 490 [19:08] and download the latest [19:08] yeah [19:08] let me help you [19:09] yea [19:09] I'm here http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads [19:09] a490-100f-1.0.0-1892-full_BETA.zip (725KB) [19:09] i got 490 too [19:09] ah [19:10] i also have my scripts [19:10] if you want it [19:10] i send you [19:10] cool thx [19:10] what do your scripts do? [19:11] let me post on pastebin [19:11] got the ZIP [19:11] :) [19:12] http://pastebin.com/9F5vXm1G [19:12] ignore the function get_bv() [19:12] it is something i was experimenting [19:12] BoggleJon (~androirc@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:12] andrew_apex (~chatzilla@188-220-169-100.zone11.bethere.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [19:13] I wanted dynamic change of things according to luminocity [19:13] but I wont implement it for first mission [19:13] and it will stop after 9999 pics [19:14] if you dont specify number of pics [19:14] phirsch_ (~phirsch@xdsl-89-0-97-10.netcologne.de) joined #highaltitude. [19:14] phirsch (~phirsch@xdsl-89-0-76-167.netcologne.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:14] Nick change: phirsch_ -> phirsch [19:15] ah [19:19] Have been playing with my car pc tracking program. Julie always asks me "Where is it now in the altitude table?", and I never know, so I've added a records screen with dynamic updating :-) - http://imgur.com/5TIPF [19:19] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [19:20] thanks nosebleedkt [19:20] daveake, AWESOME! [19:21] It tracks via dl-fldigi and also listens to the latest sentences on habitat, so it can track all the active flights [19:21] looks great daveake [19:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-S4DZ_aWNuU [19:23] would it thus change if there would be a new record or so? [19:23] SamSilver_ (2985f56c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.108) joined #highaltitude. [19:24] jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) joined #highaltitude. [19:26] Yes, the initial list comes from a text file (I thought about grabbing them from the ukhas/arhab sites in the program, but decided not to!). After that, it listens to dl-fldigi and habitat and it adds any payloads it receives. If those get higher than the ones in the table, then it will show them in their correct positions [19:28] I just need to add "if (Payload <> "XABEN") then ... :p [19:28] yeah [19:28] cool! [19:28] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:29] LL That was a joke ... Steve keeps beating my records with his XABEN flights! [19:30] xD sorry didn't understand that joke [19:31] cause I didn't pay attention to the "I just need to add..." [19:32] if (Payload = XABEN) Altitude-=1000 [19:34] MoALTz (~no@host-92-2-114-65.as43234.net) joined #highaltitude. [19:35] right, I better try break..er, soldering this 644p [19:39] xD [19:39] ah ok daveake XD [20:23] anyone here used parcelforce? [20:23] some weird stuff is happening with my parcel [20:23] its said "In progress " for a week now [20:25] parcelfarce? Not the best ... [20:25] now all the trracking details have vanished [20:25] very odd [20:25] Mind you, I had a TNT parcel end up in the wrong country [20:29] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-131-174-65.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:30] there is the Doc! [20:30] fsphil, daveake it is him! [20:30] service has changed to Express 24 [20:30] Parcelforce recently sent a solar panel from birmingham to Fife via the Isle of wight. [20:30] For me. 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[21:38] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-131-174-65.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [21:46] I think I've given up trying to figure out these Ublox messages :/ [21:47] Probably just reuse what everyone else has done&I can see why they should work&just can't figure out the correct payload/checksum & oh well :) [21:49] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [21:50] I think those came from logging what the uBlox control program sends [21:50] nick_ (~nick_@client-80-0-210-99.bkl-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:50] yeah don't worry about it too much jdtanner [21:51] you can grab the commands from ucenter as daveake said [21:52] yeah basically you issue them via u-Center [21:52] and watch the logs [21:52] but kindly jcoxon has listed them all out [21:52] I was on a mission to figure this all out from scratch&haha&should have installed u-center :) [21:52] XD [21:52] oh damn [21:52] oh yeah install u-Center [21:52] &if they did a Mac version :/ [21:52] now it is 7 minutes to midnight [21:53] http://www.u-blox.com/en/evaluation-tools-a-software/u-center/u-center.html [21:53] and I still did not test the new code [21:53] it's not impossible to do it all from scratch, i had to go through it all for doing the ublox binary protocol [21:53] but you don't need too [21:53] Example codes : http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ublox6 [21:53] http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:falcom_fsa03#common_ubx_commands_decoded_directly_from_u-center [21:54] jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:54] just a question Upu [21:54] the new board with regulator can be powered by an arduino? [21:54] Yep, been working from those ;) I missed the "&decoded directly from u-center" :D [21:54] yes [21:54] @ Lunar_Lander [21:55] but the "old" one doesn't? [21:55] thanks all... [21:55] the new one runs from the 5V supply on the Arduino which can do more than 50mA [21:55] This beer tally is starting to get quite large [21:56] ah [21:56] hm [21:56] the 3.3V pin is limited to 50 mA, cause there is a second regulator in the arduino I assume? [21:56] I used the u-center packets as a base, then tweaked the values I needed to [21:56] ignore the rest [21:56] but say [21:57] the thing with "set ublox to airborne" [21:57] SamSilver (2985f56c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:57] is that OK to use the hex values given there in the examples or is tweaking needed? [21:57] if the existing data does what you need it to do, then you can use it as is [21:57] I think the bits i was looking at where for power control [21:57] SamSilver_ (2985f56c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:58] ah ok [21:58] number10 (569e1ac3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:59] got a question still [21:59] when someone uses Twitter and the bot here like posts the tweet, how comes that the tweet comes up several times from different people? [22:00] can the twitter be connected to the channel? [22:00] that's people retweeting it [22:02] ah [22:02] I think it's not a good idea to connect my twitter to here otherwise you'd be bothered with the posts in german to my TV crictics friends [22:02] xD [22:03] the bot only relays messages with certain hash tags [22:03] ah [22:03] like #UKHAS? [22:03] yea [22:03] ah [22:03] right, night all&thanks again [22:04] jdtanner (~Adium@host86-155-32-94.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Wedding tomorrow&Bank Holiday WTF [22:04] @HighAltitudeLab: And Hello to the People of the UK High Altitude Society! #UKHAS [http://twitter.com/HighAltitudeLab/status/209405222425075714] [22:04] YAY [22:07] number10 (569e1ac3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.26.195) joined #highaltitude. [22:08] so that works fine [22:08] I wonder how once could set up a bot to mention g+ posts in a similar way. [22:08] is projecthorus the real thing by Darkside? 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