[00:01] yeah - just in a feild - bit difficut to find as it was below the crop top [00:02] just spied the chute [00:02] You mean the red handkerchief? :p [00:03] na a 18" spherachuute [00:03] Ah. Much easier to see [00:04] The extra weight cost you a new record ;) [00:04] hate to leave the party early, but only getting occasional decodes now and need some kip [00:04] gn all [00:04] nn [00:04] nn [00:04] My aerial is down now - couldn't get anything from Eurus so I gave up in the end [00:05] gonzo, thanks for listening [00:05] cant hear it on the iom globaltuner - strugglingtokeep it connectedtoo [00:06] no worries [00:06] i've got it here [00:06] the signal comes in phases [00:06] jdtanner_ (~jdtanner@host86-153-107-235.range86-153.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:07] phuzion (~phuzion@208.43.144.61-static.reverse.softlayer.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [00:08] is it just carrier at the moment? [00:08] no [00:08] txing now [00:08] Right, nn all. Need to be up earlyish tomorrow to prepare tomorrow's BBQ. Good luck jcoxon hope it's stays floating and in range well into tomo... today. [00:09] yeah [00:09] :-) [00:09] daveake_ (~daveake@daveake.plus.com) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [00:09] off globaltuners Im just getting a single tone - but if I change the tune freq, the tones not changing so i guess somethings wrong [00:10] nah that sounds like GT [00:10] i'll keep an eye on it [00:15] Action: jcoxon announes a rollcall of those still awake and tracking... [00:15] Action: SpeedEvil is not tracking. [00:15] :/ [00:15] I need to sell my stamps. [00:16] phuzion (~phuzion@208.43.144.61-static.reverse.softlayer.com) joined #highaltitude. [00:19] pschulz01 (~paul@ubuntu/member/pschulz01) joined #highaltitude. [00:19] awake... but aerial lead wont reach receiver [00:20] I'm hearing Horus26 telemetry... but cannot decode... left my audio cable at home... grrrr. [00:21] [update] darkside: alt 14.8km 3.5m/s vel 88km/h(east) [00:22] VK5ZEY (~pkern@d175-38-233-21.adl801.sa.optusnet.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [00:22] vk2kaw (7caada1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.170.218.29) joined #highaltitude. [00:22] VK5ZEA:Whereare you? [00:23] can hear dwlinlk on s1 in golden gove sa [00:24] VK5ZEY: Hehe.. ok. If you were in Mildura I might have been able to help you. [00:24] Nick change: pschulz01 -> VK5FPAW-3 [00:26] dwnlink noe at s3 [00:30] Woo Hoo... just had a contact through the cross-band repeater at 24km altitude! [00:30] vk5fmlb (792d3afb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.45.58.251) joined #highaltitude. [00:30] improved yagi position [00:31] still tracking it from suffolk? [00:31] yeah [00:31] amazing [00:31] f6agv is still getting it! [00:32] now thats really amazing [00:32] @vk5fsck: horus 26 is nearly at alt. of 25Km, can hear telemetary but can't decode #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206543474269495296] [00:35] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:36] @jamescoxon: #ukhas Eurus high altitude balloon still floating at 33km! Past Manchester - looking for local radio listeners to help track 434.200Mhz [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/206544452582510593] [00:43] MIchael_VK5ZEA: Cool, I think I heard you. [00:43] better signal now [00:43] still unable to access [00:44] Horus repeater is getting hammered. [00:45] sounds like it [00:45] r2x0t (~r00t@b607.praha.cas.cz) left irc: Quit: r2x0t [00:47] so we send Upu a balloon to track and he is not even there [00:50] Jan- (~IceChat77@109.176.250.39) joined #highaltitude. [00:50] studdentt (628fd5dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.143.213.221) joined #highaltitude. [00:53] I am near Port Lincoln in South Aust. Check for VK5ZEA-8 and VK5ZEA-6 on aprs.fi [00:53] hey all [00:53] just back in 3g range [00:54] I need to find a small 240v inverter that is quieter than the one I am using now... [00:54] Darkside: Balloon tracking OK. starting to get a little noisy here. [00:56] Peter_VK5KX (65ab2a8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.171.42.142) joined #highaltitude. [00:57] Darkside: Good report from horus repeater [00:57] Wow this is cool [00:57] Action: Jan- knows very little of high altitude balloon experiments and their electronics, but finds it all really awesome! [00:58] jcoxon: nice flight [00:58] Mark, do you have a preference for which balloon I am to track?? [00:58] SamSilver_, still going... [00:58] very strange flight path [00:58] unexpected [00:59] Jan-, you've come to the right place [00:59] doing sharp turns dispite the height [00:59] no wales [00:59] well winds have all been going west [00:59] didn't expect it to go north [00:59] vk3emf (dced69b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.237.105.181) joined #highaltitude. [01:00] I heard about a really cool UK balloon that went almost all the way to Russia before they lost it. [01:00] Now that was cool. [01:00] SamSilver_, coming up to 10hrs [01:00] at 34841m it did a right turn [01:00] It'd be great to get involved with something like that but I suspect my ability to wrangle Rover from The Prisoner is limited :) [01:01] Jan-, you uk based? [01:01] Yup. [01:01] jcoxon: local time 03h00 time for some sleep [01:01] For my sins :) [01:01] nn [01:01] SamSilver_, i;m holding the fort [01:01] k will e back in 1.5 hrs [01:01] where areyou guys? [01:02] south africa [01:02] i launched the balloon that is flying right now [01:02] in the UK [01:02] ohh awesome [01:02] nn 4 sure now [01:02] where did you launch it, and where is it now? [01:02] http://spacenear.us/tracker/ [01:03] Oh, sorry dudes, I can't see pictures. I'm using a screenreader. [01:03] burko (78904a10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.144.74.16) left irc: Quit: Page closed [01:03] oh right, well from Suffolk [01:03] I'm in Essex [01:03] currently its just past manchester [01:03] (though this is a special flight - not normal) [01:03] oh hey I thought they normally went west. [01:04] this one is floating [01:04] did you keep it at low altitude or something [01:04] most just ascend till they burst [01:04] we got it to float at 35km altitude [01:04] Oh. Active altitude control? [01:04] not this one [01:04] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [01:05] by underfilling it gets to a point where it can't burst [01:05] as in the pressure inside = outside [01:05] But if it keeps going west won't it go out over the atlantic in the end? [01:05] uhuh [01:05] :-D [01:05] But you'll lose contact with him! [01:05] this is the first flight of a number [01:06] to perhaps cross the atlantic [01:06] do you guys have real time communication with these balloons? [01:06] can do [01:06] D'you have someone in say newfoundland waiting to see if he makes it all the way over [01:06] Real-time - downlink - usually. [01:06] this one is just downlinking [01:06] like <1 s [01:06] Uplink - only rarely in the UK [01:06] It's more common in the US. [01:06] in Oz right now is doing both [01:06] what does "voice repeater" mean [01:07] SpeedEvil: whats so special in the US for uplink ? [01:07] talk-through repeater [01:07] we are making contacs through it [01:07] its awesome [01:07] so people are using it to get the audio further [01:07] Isn't that a rather expensive bit of hardware to put on a balloon you won't be able to recover? [01:07] we're almost below it atm [01:07] Jan-, this is a different flight [01:07] they are following it [01:07] maybe more land noise-free [01:07] "horus 26/27?" [01:08] Jan-: two balloons in teh air [01:08] we're going after the DARKSIDE balloon [01:08] the other chase team is going after the HORUS balloon [01:08] I'm not sure how this all works [01:08] I've got horus 26/27 [01:08] Jan-: see the cars on the ma? [01:08] eurus [01:08] i'm in the red car [01:09] Michael_VK5ZEA_ (3ba7a33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.167.163.63) joined #highaltitude. [01:09] oh [01:09] I don't see pics, Darkside. [01:09] you're probably seeing the EURUS balloon [01:09] But I get the idea. [01:09] Jan-: look over australia [01:09] MIchael_VK5ZEA (3ba7a33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.167.163.63) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:09] Just long my 3G connection... back now. [01:09] Darkside, are you planning to float horus? [01:09] not sure if we will be able to get in today [01:09] jcoxon: maybe [01:09] we'd rather it didn't [01:09] but we can cut it down if it does [01:09] burko (78904a10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.144.74.16) joined #highaltitude. [01:09] cut it down? [01:09] ok out of range [01:09] cya [01:10] you mean sever the balloon? [01:10] im in adelaide [01:10] Action: Jan- waves her arms! [01:10] This is so cool! [01:10] Darkside: Need a better labels for the cars.. [01:10] just watching the sat maps [01:10] Balloons floating over australia! People chasing after them! [01:10] *waves back [01:10] Jan-: On kangaroos. [01:11] Well I was trying to avoid any overt taking the piss out of australians. [01:11] i had a feeling considering hte ascent rate [01:11] crt_ (~crt@prevod.fri1.uni-lj.si) joined #highaltitude. [01:11] so those guys launched from where? [01:12] Mildura Victoria [01:12] And they're literally chasing it across the outback in cars? [01:12] Jan-, just trying to think of a way to make this more accessible for you [01:12] Action: Jan- is in awe! [01:12] interesting technical challenge! [01:12] Don't worry about it. It's just fun. [01:12] wow, 33000 meters? [01:12] well it would be useful generally e.g. when driving [01:12] that's over 100,000 feet [01:13] crt (~crt@2001:1470:fffd:10a7:f814:9cdd:878d:ef24) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:14] don't you guys run into trouble with various aviation regulators [01:14] we have permission [01:14] I mean, I wouldn't want to run into a small but sturdily built electronics package in a Cessna 152 [01:14] we have to coordinate with ATC [01:14] "oh dear, I seem to have received someone's science project in the face at 200mph" [01:14] but most of our flight time is above the normal airspace [01:14] well, I guess. [01:14] Not many people at FL1000 [01:15] and if they are they're probably an american spyplane, so stuff 'em :) [01:16] one query though [01:16] 2000 strings for Eurus balloon [01:16] vk5fj (adhoc@50-56-189-236.static.cloud-ips.com) joined #highaltitude. [01:16] if they're out in the middle of australia, how are they even talking to us? [01:16] satphone internet? [01:16] surely there's no 3G out there [01:16] there is patchy 3g [01:16] also people are communicating via the balloon [01:17] Action: Jan- is forced to recalibrate the previous maximum level of her personal coolometer to accomodate the degree of geek that's going on here [01:17] can I ask a rude question: why? :) [01:17] there is plenty of chatter viat he horus repeater [01:17] jcoxon: HAMMERING the balloons repeater more like it. [01:17] VK5FPAW-3: yes [01:18] wonder how much battery it has left ;) [01:18] Jan-, this is purely for fun [01:18] Well I'm enjoying it [01:18] vk5fj: It's going to cut itself down :-) [01:18] and I'm 15000 miles away :D [01:18] Yep, listening to Horus repeater and tracking Darkside balloon :-) [01:18] pushing boundaries of science [01:18] for example the uk floating balloon is defining the predictions [01:18] are all these VK people aussie radio hams [01:18] Jan-, most are [01:19] Peter_VK5KX: you got more than a faint carrier on the data frew? [01:19] Good signal so far [01:19] Jan-: probably [01:19] hi peter kx [01:19] Peter_VK5KX: ok [01:19] Jan-, lots of people who get invovled with this hobby become hams [01:19] Hi Phil [01:19] Jan-: I;ll see if I can upload some photos from the launch for you. [01:20] OK, that's odd, in my world VK stands for "Versuchskonstruktion" [01:20] dont think i will be able to get in today KX? [01:20] Jan-, http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/ [01:21] now i know why you wnet to Truro, lol [01:21] I can Mildura from here, it's very small tho [01:21] Why is this stuff all like 430MHz? [01:22] night [01:22] night F6AGV [01:22] Jan-, in the uk its the only freq we can use [01:22] It's not legal in the UK to use amateur radio freqs to transmit from balloons. [01:22] It has to be 'licence free' freqs. [01:22] Jan-: convenietly small antenna and reasonable bandwidth on that HAM band [01:22] 433, 868, 2.4GHz [01:22] Well that's pish. [01:22] rx in use during night [01:22] F6AGV, get some sleep! [01:22] bye james [01:22] night [01:22] thanks again [01:22] are the guys chasing it in contact now [01:23] or have they gone out of 3G range, someone said? [01:23] not sure [01:23] looks like its just me tracking now :-) [01:23] I can hear contacts on the balloon repeater in Wagga on my handheld [01:23] 'battery: 0v' doesn't sound good [01:24] Wagga is not a real place! [01:24] Holy hell, Wagga is a real place. [01:24] i think its wagga wagga [01:25] teehee [01:25] its moving over 70KM/hr [01:25] Everywhere in Australia seems to be named Murray, Stuart or Darling [01:25] Except those places which are called things like Wagga and Warragul and... and... Didjabringabeeralong. [01:25] Jan-: they are very long rivers ;) [01:25] not everyhere [01:25] Er, rivers, in australia? You mean dry channels full of dust? [01:25] Or are there actual rivers? [01:26] the rivers are full [01:26] Action: Jan- has never been to australia [01:26] we have hat a lot of rain [01:26] I'd love to visit. [01:27] It's just really really far, and there are billions of toxic creatures. [01:27] lots of snakes and spiders :) [01:27] :( [01:27] we manage to survive Jan [01:27] Honestly I'm surprised australians ever make it to adulthood, considering that the place has 1001 ways to kill you. [01:28] its not that bad Jan [01:28] I don't think I'd be comfortable getting off the plane without some sort of environment suit. [01:29] its pretty safe Jan [01:29] Thankyou for the humor Jan, you made my day [01:29] you have toxic SEASHELLS. [01:29] only rock fish [01:29] I mean seriously! Snakes, OK. Spiders, fine. Jellyfish? Well obviously. But seashells?! [01:29] And if the chemical warfare experts don't get you, a crocodile will eat you. [01:29] some jellies are pretty bad [01:30] most are harmeless [01:30] we can see that Jan has not really looked at Aus much yes there is a place called Wagga Wagga as for the critters well we like them [01:30] Box jellyfish! Portugese men o war? [01:30] yes jan [01:30] sounds like the ballon has burst [01:31] Activated cutdown on Horus. [01:31] That's annoying. All those beautiful beaches, and you don't dare go in the water because of being stung, stabbed, spiked, chewed and poisoned to death. [01:31] Oh, cutdown? Is it falling now? [01:31] Yes. Horus 26 on its way down now. [01:32] parachute, or just... gravity? and how long will it take to hit the ground? [01:32] Jan-: There is a small parachuts [01:32] patachute [01:33] I was hoping to make a contact through the Horus26 repeater with the most Eastern station to log in... me being the most West... oh well. [01:33] uhoh. apparently, it looks like it's going to fall in a lake. [01:33] @vk5fsck: horus 26 balloon has bursted #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206558621180493824] [01:33] VK5FPAW-3: so there are two balloons? [01:33] what is the rtty freq for darkside [01:33] 434.650 [01:33] thanks [01:33] @vk5fsck: horus 27 is still up, but looks might have a wet landing though #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206558828282646528] [01:34] does it float? [01:34] do they have a boat? [01:34] Was Horcut or did it burst? [01:34] Horus [01:34] what module do you use for the telecommunication ? [01:34] Jan-: Might need one :-) [01:34] Coming down at 30m/s [01:34] are there favorites? [01:34] studdentt: dl-fldigi for the Rx of the RTTY data [01:35] well hang on [01:35] this is an aussie lake [01:35] does it have any actual water in it? [01:35] studdentt: they buld the radio module, its called uNut [01:35] Jan-: which one? [01:35] Jan-: Hmm.. yeah, that would a fun hoax to pull. [01:35] I'm told it looks like it's going to land in a lake. [01:35] I don't know which one. [01:35] vk5fj: Yes [01:36] vk5fj: Yes - two balloons. [01:36] are the electronics waterproof? [01:36] Jan-: 'sealed' in polystyrene box, so they will float :-) [01:37] Jan-: Polysyrene to keep the heat in so the batteries/electronics don't freeze. [01:37] Action: Jan- proposes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqT6En2O78 [01:38] @vk5fsck: horus 26 made it to 35470 meters before the balloon burst #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206559854838550528] [01:39] isn't that practically space [01:39] Well - no. [01:39] A thingy at 35km altitude has well under a percent of the energy of something orbiting at 100km [01:39] kx you shold be able to hear me from Truro? [01:39] well there's a difference between "space" and "orbit" [01:39] but the environment is pretty extreme [01:40] steve (79dbe60f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.219.230.15) joined #highaltitude. [01:40] where is this balloon going?!? [01:40] Second balloon has burst. [01:41] burst or intentionally cut [01:41] @vk5fsck: horus 27 made it to 36732 meters before the balloon burst #projecthorus [http://twitter.com/vk5fsck/status/206560622584930305] [01:41] MrScienceMan (~zo@46.47.80.192) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:41] VK5ZEY: Will be driving past there tonight.. is there a repeater around there? [01:42] VK5ZEY: Sorry.. thought you said you were in Truro [01:42] no not me [01:42] im in golden grove [01:42] I'm packing up guys... sorry I wasn't able to upload any telemetry... I certainly could hear it very well... [01:43] how much range do they have? [01:44] the record for the radio we use in the UK is 700km [01:44] I'm in Truro , hehe, What freq ZEY [01:45] vk2ypw (7248ee29@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.72.238.41) left irc: Quit: Page closed [01:45] 700 kilometers?! Cripes. [01:45] vk3emf (dced69b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.237.105.181) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:46] VK5ZEY: Yeah.. you said that. [01:46] Darkside: Telemetry getting noisy here. [01:47] darkside just faded away in wagga was strong [01:48] jcoxon: the ion drive is faulty [01:48] fsphil! [01:48] what you doing up [01:48] so lake mungo is dry at this time of year? [01:48] steve (79dbe60f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.219.230.15) left irc: Quit: Page closed [01:48] someone's outside shouting [01:48] is it getting noisy because the altitude is reducing? [01:48] Horus is doing 102kph !!!!! [01:48] Jan-: Yes.. and distance [01:48] fsphil, i have no idea where it is going... [01:49] that's really odd ain't it. the winds up there must be completely different [01:49] how far away are you, VK5FPAW-3 [01:49] i'd really like it to not be in this area at burst [01:49] which area [01:50] yea it's a busy spot [01:50] its just over Bolton [01:50] heading towards Liverpool [01:50] Jan-: In Mildura, where the balloon was launched. [01:50] which is how far? [01:50] I woke up expecting it to be over the sea at least [01:50] Jan-: Came back to were the Horus team have been staying. [01:51] jcoxon: you don't really want it to fall in the city, I guess. [01:51] But in the UK that's a bit of a risk no matter what. [01:51] goodness, still being received in france [01:51] that must be some setup [01:52] big directional antenna? [01:52] do you know all the guys who're tracking it, or are they anons? [01:52] they are regulars [01:53] to tell the truth only 3 of us are tracking it [01:53] There tend to be randoms at times. [01:53] G8KNN-Jon (~Jon@cpc1-cmbg10-0-0-cust144.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:53] I thought it was about to head out over the ocean? [01:53] This is the UK one we're discussing right [01:53] yeah [01:53] its taking a bit of a unusual route [01:53] that was the plan lol [01:54] still no decodes here [01:54] where are you fsphil? [01:54] Jan-: Just takes an error in one character and the entire tracking packet is not uploaded. [01:54] Action: Jan- proposes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5BJXwNeKsQ [01:54] Jan-: n.ireland [01:54] I notice the altitude's going back up [01:55] Oh. Were you hoping to have it land there? [01:55] fsphil, yeah very slowly [01:55] How do you even control when it lands? [01:55] Jan-: not land, but at least flyby [01:55] Jan-: Balloon maybe 100-120km from here in a straight line. [01:55] I'm in Essex, I guess that'd be way too far to hear it. [01:55] Well, actually. [01:55] 700km? [01:56] there is someone in calais that can hear it [01:56] I can hear it, just not strong enough to decode [01:56] and i can hear it in suffolk [01:56] CALAIS?! In France?! [01:56] yea [01:56] Cripes [01:56] the range of these things is amazing [01:56] If it's over manchester, you're WAY closer than Calais. [01:56] I regurlarly track flights from Cambridge [01:56] Can you command it to parachute down or whatever? [01:57] not this one [01:57] but others yes [01:57] That'd be a nice feature. [01:57] Then you could have it land somewhere reasonably convenient. [01:57] Jan-: The Horus guys have just added that 'feature'. [01:57] Awesome. [01:57] Do you have to, like, warn air traffic control when What Goes Up Must Come Down? [01:58] fsphil, about 90mins till sunrise [01:58] Darkside has come down faster than horus. [01:59] Jan-: I think that they just have to give an indication on the area they will be operating in.. but I don't know any details. [02:00] Darkside at 8kn and I'm still gettinh telemetry. [02:00] The Horus guys put NOTAMS into Flight Services [02:00] NOTAMS = Notice To Airmen [02:01] Hmm. that might be my last correct packet. [02:01] Now at 7km [02:02] do we have a word on whether there's water in the lake [02:02] I'm still RXing teletry on Darkside [02:02] hugly annoying carrier right over the signal [02:03] having one of the fadse [02:03]