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[07:11] Nick change: x-f_ -> x-f [07:14] hello [07:15] seems raul is looking for me or Tim :) [07:51] Jasperw (~jasperw@2a01:348:82:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:52] number10 (d42c14ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.44.20.206) joined #highaltitude. [07:54] nosebleedkt_ (4f8131b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.49.177) joined #highaltitude. [08:13] Wil5on_ (~Wil5on@150.203.220.82) joined #highaltitude. [08:16] Wil5on (~Wil5on@compsci.adl/eternalpresident/wil5on) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [08:25] daveale (d51f0b5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.31.11.93) joined #highaltitude. [08:37] Robert_M0RJX (~rharrison@vpn.hgf.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:37] morning all [08:37] A rare visit these days at the moment [08:38] Getting a payload up in the next few weeks [08:40] hey Rob [08:40] morning [08:40] where you launching from ? [08:40] Hey anthony [08:40] Not sure yet either yours or camb [08:41] depending on DM [08:41] oh next few weeks [08:41] sorry [08:41] misread that as hours [08:41] lol [08:41] :-) [08:41] It's monday moring [08:41] yeah need a coffee [08:41] Is the tracker still working as normal [08:41] got a 4 hour drive to Felixstowe [08:41] yup [08:41] Cool I'm going to be doing some demo stuff today [08:42] Filming with farnell [08:42] as long as your payload is in the list of payloads which I suspect it will be [08:42] Yep it is [08:42] let me know if you want me to change the header/title [08:42] For space near us? [08:42] yeah [08:42] I think I still have a login [08:42] ok [08:42] formats changed slightly but sure you can work it out [08:42] :-) [08:42] Yep [08:44] right afk making a coffee [08:49] much better [08:50] :) [08:50] Changed the title :-) [08:50] just wondering why my station isn't appearing on there [08:51] Gillerire (~Jamie@182-239-130-68.ip.adam.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [08:51] Hehe you will be the only remote tracker that can hear my data :-) [08:51] I know :) [08:51] where you doing it ? At Farnell in Leeds ? [08:51] No here at home [08:52] oh well let me know when and I'll switch radio over [08:52] Action: SpeedEvil looks at frequency standards on ebay. [08:52] 650 ? [08:52] Rubidium standards are surprisingly cheap - second hand [08:52] 075 is a noisy nightmare round here [08:52] Action: UpuWork googles Rubidium standard [08:53] ah [08:53] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270873476863&category=25399&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619 [08:53] 075 :-( [08:53] Free serial port :) [08:53] meh [08:53] ~10^-11 stability or so [08:53] I'll see what I can do [08:53] what time are you doing it ? [08:54] Hum messing around over the day I'll ping you if i remember [08:54] wx looks crap [08:55] back in a sec [08:55] dropping VPN [08:55] ok [08:55] Robert_M0RJX (~rharrison@vpn.hgf.com) left irc: [08:57] Robert_M0RJX (~rharrison@62.49.185.11) joined #highaltitude. [08:59] hum wonder how long it takes for active transmitters to show up [09:00] Has ther sever changed from me yet [09:00] http://robertharrison.org/listen/ [09:03] 10 mins [09:03] you're on there now [09:04] :-) [09:07] Nick change: Wil5on_ -> wil5on [09:07] wil5on (~Wil5on@150.203.220.82) left irc: Changing host [09:07] wil5on (~Wil5on@compsci.adl/eternalpresident/wil5on) joined #highaltitude. [09:47] TX'ing [09:51] I see you [09:51] icarus,27,00:00:00,0.000000,0.0b0000,0,0.00,0.0,20.1,20.1 R*599A [09:52] try that ublox you might get a lock with 30 mins of power up :) [09:52] :D [09:53] Really on the Ale dave ? [09:53] its only 09:53 [09:57] lol [09:57] Friggin' cold in this 'ere factory [09:57] Nick change: daveale -> daveake [09:58] these lassens are very slow to get a lock, its not even got the time yet [09:58] All the heavy machines stopped for Xmas, and there appears to be no other source of heat :( [09:59] They're a bit variable. I think mine has an AboutToLaunch mode where it takes even longer than usual [10:00] ***DEBUG MODE*** [10:00] :) [10:01] Though last launch it fired up in no time [10:01] just watching Rob, I can pick his payload up at his house from my house [10:01] :) [10:22] the heating in our office broke last week, I'm sure there was frost on the monitors :) [10:23] but the factory is always cold, they keep the doors opened too much [10:28] They found a heater for me :-) [10:34] nosebleedkt_ (4f8131b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.49.177) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:35] nosebleedkt_ (4f8131b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.49.177) joined #highaltitude. [10:47] off-topic: got the radio connected to the computer, but the PTT is sticking - it keeps transmitting after it's finished. anyone seen that happen? [10:53] fsphil: connected via the rj45 port? [10:53] or just audio out? [10:54] it's a yaesu, and all the connections are at the back. using the data port [10:55] and the other one, which I think is called the cat port [10:55] the ptt is done through a serial port on the pc [11:00] woo i have a packet TNC [11:01] it comes with a 5.25 floppy disk with software [11:01] hah [11:02] do people use TNCs any more? [11:02] yeah APRS [11:02] last time I used packet radio was about 15 years ago. Can't you do it all in software these days? [11:02] yes, but a TNC is better [11:02] offload the work [11:03] it's my software tnc that's sticking the ptt [11:04] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [11:08] does it do it with a flow control line? [11:08] it does [11:09] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host31-52-24-233.range31-52.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:10] it doesn't seem to happen every time [11:10] -seem [11:11] half of the times it keeps tx'ing [11:11] others it ends fine after the packet is sent [11:13] I have the radio set up to timeout after 1 minute [11:13] just so I'm not transmitting silence over 144.800.. not that anyone would notice [11:16] kristianpaul (~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:17] kristianpaul (~kristianp@cl-498.udi-01.br.sixxs.net) joined #highaltitude. [11:17] kristianpaul (~kristianp@cl-498.udi-01.br.sixxs.net) left irc: Changing host [11:17] kristianpaul (~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul) joined #highaltitude. [11:20] for some reason i have 6 BNC terminators [11:20] found them in a bag in the back of my parts cupboard [11:25] small dummy loads [11:26] I see you on APRS.fi fsphil [11:26] I have no idea how to make my software transmit [11:26] for this I'm using soundmodem + aprx [11:27] soundmodem controls the radio [11:27] aprx does the aprs stuff [11:27] hmm [11:27] fsphil: any idea on igate software? [11:27] aprx seems nice [11:27] by far the simplest I've seen so far :) [11:28] it uploads received packets fine, but I've yet to try the opposite [11:28] other than the beacon packet it transmits every 30 minutes or so [11:29] it should be configured to accept packets from aprs too [11:29] aprs-is even [11:29] it should work with a tnc too [11:30] I've soundmodem setup as a virtual tnc [11:30] it appears as a serial port /dev/soundmodem0 [11:30] I runwindows... [11:34] WillDuckworth (c2498332@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.73.131.50) joined #highaltitude. [11:34] hmm [11:35] http://pakettiradio.net/aprsg/ -- does this work with a radio, or just a tnc? [11:35] fsphil: oh, so it acts as an igate? [11:36] it does [11:36] does it need X [11:36] nope [11:36] sold [11:36] lol [11:36] yea, I like it for that too [11:36] it really is very simple [11:37] can you see through traffic? [11:37] because i want to do some things with the received traffic [11:37] it has an rf log [11:37] eg: 2011-12-19 11:20:49.298 2I0VIM T 2I0VIM>APRX21:!5439.05NR00644.89W&Cookstown iGate [11:38] T for transmitted [11:38] R for received stuff [11:38] cool [11:38] perfect [11:38] i'll just tail that [11:38] yea [11:38] that's how I'm monitoring it at the moment [11:38] though I don't receive a huge amount [11:38] this igate is going at my dads place [11:38] which is 350km from here [11:38] i'm going to make it blink an LED when it detects ducting [11:38] 2011-12-15 17:32:32.390 2I0VIM R GI4OYG-9>U4TTYP,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2:`|6^n]#u\"4% [11:39] }Mervyn from Carrickfergus [11:39] i.e. if it sees a packet from certain callsigns [11:39] that's the last thing I received [11:39] oh that's a neat idea [11:39] ductometer [11:39] :-) [11:39] well, this is going to be easier than i thought [11:39] I just want to make sure i can recieve these packets should our american friends "accidentally" the Atlantic again [11:40] ui-view does it, but it doesn't seem to be free [11:40] fsphil: how did you get your aprs-is account? [11:41] got mine by mailing the author of the software [11:42] aprx generates the passcode internally [11:43] from the callsign you give [11:44] which is apparently all the security aprs-is has [11:44] but how does it check the callsign? [11:44] I've got a generator about somewhere [11:44] can't remember the url but will look in 10-15 mins [11:44] it doesn't Darkside [11:44] wut. [11:44] yea lol [11:44] well thats secure [11:45] where do you set receive location? [11:46] in the beacon section [11:46] cool [11:46] and i can st it to send only to aprsis [11:46] nice [11:47] I have http://pastebin.com/tTma8xpT [11:47] yea [11:47] I have mine to transmit to both aprsis and the radio [11:47] yeah i'm not doing a transmitting igate [11:48] now i need to work out how to make aprx talk to the KPC-3 TNC [11:49] in theory, just point it at the serial port [11:50] [11:50] serial-device /dev/soundmodem0 19200 8n1 KISS [11:50] tx-ok true [11:50] [11:50] without the tx-ok bit [11:50] hean [11:50] yeah [11:50] but you need to set it to a certain mode [11:53] i might have to write something that sends the correct commands to the box [11:57] DiJuMx (~daniel@cpc19-wals10-2-0-cust54.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:58] it supports a couple of different modes to KISS [11:58] any of those match the tnc? [11:58] soundmodem ftw [12:00] fsphil: dunno [12:00] i'll find out when i get the damn thing hooked up [12:00] i dont have a DB25 to DB9 cable [12:03] lol [12:03] I remember those [12:03] http://www.rimboy.com/rimdistro/rimigate/calculate/index.php <== aprs pass generator [12:04] how is the tnc connected to the radio? [12:04] unless it's been taken down... [12:04] :/ [12:05] fsphil: DB9 cable [12:05] i made a DB9 to 3.5mm cable [12:05] hibby: yeah its not loading [12:06] ah, so it's some weird non-standard plug? [12:06] Darkside: yeah, spotted that. annoying, I used it lots. [12:07] fsphil: no [12:07] the TNC has a DB9 and a DB25 [12:07] and a barrel jack for pwoer [12:07] Gillerire (~Jamie@182-239-130-68.ip.adam.com.au) left irc: Quit: Quit [12:08] the plug itself is standard, I meant the wiring. do all tncs use the same kind of rig<>tnc interface? [12:08] dunno [12:08] (I'm tempted to get one now) [12:08] the manual suggests that it came with a empty DB9 plug and some cable [12:08] so you coudl wire your own up [12:09] on4bds (59ca9782@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.202.151.130) joined #highaltitude. [12:10] pretty much all tnc's have bespoke radio wiring [12:10] but simple enough to do [12:10] hehe [12:11] dammit i need a DB25 to DB9 cable... [12:11] also a USB to RS232 adaptor [12:11] ? why you want to soil your hands with ta new fangles 9D ? [12:11] ? [12:11] well i want to plug the TNC into my laptop [12:12] db9 is witchcraft [12:12] why? [12:12] prefer db25 [12:12] heh [12:12] better still 80-0-80volt [12:13] eek [12:14] would like to say I'm joking, but I do have one on the mech tty [12:16] navrac_ (545c0e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.92.14.5) joined #highaltitude. [12:18] there is 80v serial? [12:20] number10_ (d42c14ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.44.20.206) joined #highaltitude. 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[14:16] Dan-K2VOL (Dan-K2VOL@96-28-234-61.dhcp.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude. [14:21] Morning, #highaltitude [14:26] hullo zuph [14:26] How's everything? [14:28] all good here. busy week before the holidays start. you? [14:28] Hopefully a lazy week before the holidays start. [14:47] SAIDias (~SAID@69.18.57.203) joined #highaltitude. [15:05] anyone getting any cool HAB stuff for xmas?! [15:07] I don't know, but I did put a few dev boards on the list I sent to Santa. [15:07] Action: fsphil is getting a new chair, so can track from home in comfort! [15:09] :) [15:09] I'll be building my next payload [15:10] (to replace the lost one) [15:10] And hopefully I can find time to finish off the white star tracker. [15:10] and tidying up my chase car now it's back on the road [15:11] heh [15:14] a sniper rifle. [15:15] with a special scope to shoot down howyeeeeees [15:15] grrrrrr [15:17] (I ordered another NeverBurst yesterday) [15:17] lol [15:23] 30km range howyeeee [15:23] gun [15:23] that would need to be pretty big :) [15:24] Ask RocketBoy if he can make you something to shoot potential record breakers out of the sky :) [15:26] daveake: there was a video the other day of the first rocket to break 100K ft ; it was a pretty big one [15:26] I bet [15:27] Dan-K2VOL (~Dan-K2VOL@96-28-234-61.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:33] how come you are going for another ahoyyee daveake - planning on beating your own record with another small payload? [15:33] lol NigelMoby [15:33] Dan-K2VOL (Dan-K2VOL@96-28-234-61.dhcp.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude. [15:36] number10 .. undecided yet. Might go for it with H2 and same payload. Otherwise I have a couple of photographic payloads to make and fly [15:38] sounds like you have lots planned [15:38] Buzz1 was lighter than Buzz2 but didn't get nearly as high. I don't think payload weight is a big factor when the balloon mass is 10x the payload [15:38] I love it when a plan comes together :p [15:38] going to launch from home again or cambs? [15:40] Pass. Haven't applied for permission yet [15:41] Probably home for the photographic one and Cambs for the h2 one [15:41] yes you dont want to set fire to the countryside where you live - best do it where noone knows you ;) [15:42] Exactly :D [15:44] I can see the headlines unaprochable chap sets fire to 30 acres of wheat [15:48] number10 (d42c14ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.44.20.206) left irc: Quit: Page closed [15:49] NigeyS (~Nigel@cpc5-cdif13-2-0-cust232.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:51] Jessica_Lily (~textual@85.211.47.160) left irc: Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/ [15:51] Village green. It's grass. :) [16:09] our launch site is surrounded by very flammable looking dry grass [16:09] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:10] switch to a stechiometric mix of hydrogen and oxygen for the ballon [16:10] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [16:12] steam [16:12] wonder if that would work [16:14] if it could be kept hot enough [16:14] gonzo_ (~gonzo_@109.104.96.45) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:14] gonzo_ (~gonzo_@109.104.96.45) joined #highaltitude. [16:59] Jasperw (~jasperw@2a01:348:82:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) joined #highaltitude. [17:00] number10 (568eafbe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.142.175.190) joined #highaltitude. 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[18:28] RocketBoy_S2 (~RocketBoy@212.183.128.179) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:32] not enough nosebleedKT :) [18:38] jcoxon (~jcoxon@151.57.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:44] Raul_ (55ba6c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.186.108.97) joined #highaltitude. [18:44] Hey guys [18:53] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-173-192-214.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [19:19] http://www.finishing.com/412/53.shtml [19:28] Paradoxial (~Paradoxia@pool-108-28-22-94.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined #highaltitude. [19:31] Jasperw (~jasperw@2a01:348:82:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:32] m0lep (~irc-clien@41.215.92.126) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:32] Action: SpeedEvil enjoys some summer pudding. [19:32] Nom. [19:32] Oh [19:33] I forgot gooseberries. [19:33] meh [19:34] im a little worried about nuclear power now [19:35] one would hope they didnt have to resport to forums [19:38] Hiena (~boreger@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [19:47] Huh? [19:47] Oh. [19:47] Consultation - practically - has to be of such a level that it can't be successfully challenged as not being real through Judicial Review. [19:53] Hi [19:57] Would a SOT232 sized MOSFET be ok for a pyro cut away board ? [19:58] 560mW power disappation [19:58] anyone measured what power is disappated with you trigger a pyro ? [19:58] it won't dissipate that much power when it's fully on? [19:59] it depends on the on resistance [19:59] Look at the current drawn [19:59] or whatever the technical name is :) [19:59] And on resistance is a little complex to calculate [19:59] Rds(on) [19:59] As it's specified at room temperature [19:59] The threshold voltage rises with low temp [20:00] So rds(on) rises [20:00] hmm [20:02] Common error. [20:03] Vgs(th) should be mostly ignored, you don't care about it [20:03] It's not a voltage at which the FET usefully switches [20:04] jcoxon (~jcoxon@151.57.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:06] daveake (~daveake@daveake.plus.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:07] Upu: what's the microcontroller voltage? [20:15] Lunar_Lander (~gd-kevin@p54A07AF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:15] hello everyone [20:16] o/ [20:16] nice to be back :) [20:16] Back from hiding :) [20:16] Hey lundar lander [20:16] did something significant happen in HAB? [20:16] xD yea [20:16] lunar launder* sorry [20:16] hey Raul_ [20:16] no problem :) [20:16] lunar, what are the laws concearning hab launches from Germany? [20:17] there are not that many laws, you only have to notify the flight safety (which is called DFS), eight working days in advance [20:17] they'll file a NOTAM then [20:17] fsphil: how much :) [20:18] the only problem is the insurance thing that I mentioned last time [20:18] http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/ZXMN2A03E6TA/ZXMN2A03E6CT-ND/386042 [20:18] Oh, I am planning to fly into Holland and launch (with the balloon falling in N-W Germany) [20:18] For example [20:18] yeah [20:18] do you know Tim Zaman? [20:18] This one says a max of 0.1R at 2.5V Vgs. [20:18] I know him, but he saied he can't help with the launch&recovery [20:19] yeah [20:19] for that I contacted Andrew Barton from White Label GLXP team [20:19] yeah [20:19] I just asked because his christmas balloon did what your balloon is going to do [20:19] fly from NL to germany [20:19] :) [20:20] haha, now thinking about it, I could go to my dad who works in central Germany for the flight [20:20] cool! [20:20] in a small village called Lauda [20:20] in Thueringen? [20:21] Koningschafen something [20:21] SpeedEvil sorry was on the phone 3.3v [20:21] I myself live in Romania, here it will take 45days minimum for getting a permit, in Hungary 90 days! [20:21] oh [20:21] yeah that sounds bad :( [20:22] Haha 90 days ? More than that here... [20:22] Worse for some ;) [20:22] Upu: See above [20:22] Upu: Off the main battery, or a supplemetnaty one? [20:22] well [20:22] main battery probably [20:23] subject to testing [20:23] rocket motor ignitor blows so quickly I doubt it will cause any issues [20:23] It may short as it blows [20:23] Does that matter? [20:23] not really [20:24] I mean - if you get a reset [20:24] but they tend to blow clean [20:24] reset will just start the counter again should it happen [20:24] What should I do guys? fly into Holland to launch it with a guy from GLXP team or drive to Germany to launch with my dad [20:24] If you don't have permission in .de. you can't launch from there [20:25] nosebleedKT (~mixio@79.167.5.207) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [20:27] so they don't give anyone a permission if I tell them 8 days prior? [20:27] they should, I think [20:28] Hiena (~boreger@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:29] I'm having a huge dillema here, Holland or Germany :) [20:29] imrcly (~tim@74-128-123-149.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:30] yea [20:31] NL maybe [20:34] Hiena (~boreger@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [20:40] Lunar Lander, in which part of Germany do you live? 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