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[05:44] SamSilver (2985f564@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:11] Received email: James Coxon "Re: [UKHAS] Re: UK Balloon Flight Guidelines" [08:25] sumeet_ (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [08:28] sumeet_ (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:30] sumeet_ (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [08:34] Nick change: sumeet_ -> r600cc [08:42] Nick change: r600cc -> shipit_ [08:46] Nick change: shipit_ -> r600cc [08:48] r600cc (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:51] mattltm (~mattltm@81.134.144.179) joined #highaltitude. [09:02] shipit__ (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [09:04] Nick change: shipit__ -> shipit [10:10] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-172-188-211.range86-172.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:17] did someone post a detailed scan of the fsa03 here ages ago? [10:20] MrCraig (~craig@host109-156-178-239.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:38] Received email: Chris Foote (Spike) "Re: [UKHAS] interesting item on ebay?" [10:39] UpuMobile (UpuMobile@82.219.244.11) joined #highaltitude. [10:39] morning [10:41] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:42] hey fsphil [10:42] awake ? [10:42] am indeed UpuMobile [10:42] morning [10:43] what hf frequencies do you xmit voice on ? [10:44] the only one I've had any sort of success on was 40m [10:44] just up on Otley chevin [10:44] MrCraig (~craig@host109-156-178-239.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:44] aaah, I'm setting my HF vertical right now [10:45] get it up and tell me what freq [10:45] will do [10:45] just moving the atu down to the base of the antenna [10:45] radio club guys are trying to get nz atm :) [10:45] have you had any contacts yet [10:45] ? [10:46] barcelona [10:47] is there an iss pass due [10:47] ? [10:49] Received email: Mission Excelsior "Re: [UKHAS] interesting item on ebay?" [10:56] lemme check [10:57] last ISS pass was about 20 minutes ago, doesn't look like there's any more today [10:58] grr this noise, S9 [10:59] I can't hear a thing on 40m UpuMobile, if you want to call I'll see if I can hear it [10:59] ISS picture of the day: http://i.imgur.com/HM0es.jpg [11:00] what frequency ? [11:00] oh wow [11:00] UpuMobile, your choice. I can't hear if I'm TX'ing over anyone [11:00] russss: Lightning? [11:00] And HDR? [11:01] I have no information beyond the filename [11:01] Actually - no - the bay lights could just be very dim. [11:01] it does look like HDR, doesn't it [11:01] just looks like a long exposure [11:01] Umm. [11:01] Doesn't ISS co-rotate with the earth? [11:01] polycarbonate1 (~Stack@unaffiliated/polycarbonate1) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:01] there are stars and there is a well lit shuttle [11:01] Oh - right. [11:01] polycarbonate1 (~Stack@unaffiliated/polycarbonate1) joined #highaltitude. [11:01] hdr seems at least somewhat likely [11:01] It does but the apparant movement of the earth is more, due to ... [11:01] maybe not though, it's a really cool picture either way [11:02] 1 sec [11:02] just finding an antenna [11:02] so what's up with the purple blob on the earth [11:02] Could simply be that the bay lights are very dim. [11:02] below the left wing [11:02] fsphil: lightning? [11:02] SpeedEvil: yea. they are blowing out the top part of the shuttle, after all [11:02] Or aurorae? [11:02] hmm maybe -- there's a blue blob there too [11:03] I've seen purple and blue lightning before [11:03] I suppose you've got the orientation. [11:03] could be lightning [11:03] You've got ISS orbit. [11:03] DarkCow (~DarkCow@5adefc6a.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:03] This gives you a very limited subset of places it could be. [11:04] the image is iss028e006192 [11:04] ok [11:04] Action: SpeedEvil wonders if there is an onluine star-tracker web-service. [11:04] what freq should I try on fsphil [11:05] whatever is clearest for you UpuMobile [11:05] Action: Laurenceb_ is pondering the fsa03 [11:05] SpeedEvil: there's astrometry.net but I think that might assume you're on the earth's surface [11:05] i wonder if theres a config pit to set the buad rate [11:05] Action: SpeedEvil hits russss with parallax. [11:05] *pin [11:06] :) [11:06] 7.048.00 [11:06] k [11:06] LSB? [11:06] I also have this one http://imgur.com/NKkB9 [11:06] can't hear anything [11:06] yes [11:06] make sure there's no CW [11:06] c an xmit [11:06] can't hear any [11:07] any guesses on what the city? [11:07] somewhere north [11:07] aurora [11:08] yea [11:08] just called UpuMobile [11:08] I wonder if you could tell. does google earth have night time images? [11:08] http://imgur.com/gallery/auOS8 [11:08] can't hear [11:08] hah i have that book [11:08] just noise here too UpuMobile [11:08] lemme try with a bit more power [11:08] just noise [11:09] that last one was at 50 watts [11:09] nothing [11:09] another band maybe? [11:10] just checking antenna [11:10] which bzand [11:11] can you transmit on 20 m ? [11:11] Oooh - neat. [11:11] astrometry has source. [11:11] Action: SpeedEvil builds. [11:12] UpuMobile, should be able to manage them all I think [11:13] anyone here with a 38400 buad fsa03? [11:13] im wondering if theres some config pins i can hack [11:13] to change the baud [11:14] 14.247.50 [11:14] usb [11:15] k, one sec [11:16] anything? [11:17] try again sorry cops just bturned up [11:17] Laurenceb_: you can program it by serial [11:17] get it hooked into your PC and run the ublox software on it [11:17] i know, but you cant turn the baudrate up [11:18] at least on mine its limited to 9600 [11:18] UpuMobile, done [11:18] looks like the lower frequencies are better for UK contacts [11:18] negative 1 sev trying something [11:18] can you tune on 80m? [11:18] hmm [11:19] can anyone do 20m? [11:19] and at what power [11:19] try again on 14.247.50 [11:19] apparently 20m is good to UK atm from australia [11:20] UpuMobile: can you put out a carrier on 14.247? [11:20] full power CW [11:20] err I can do a CQ call I think [11:20] just broadcast a carrier for a bit [11:21] transmitted [11:21] cant see shit [11:21] oh well [11:21] 100w [11:21] :) [11:21] http://www.ips.gov.au/Images/HF%20Systems/Global%20HF/HAP%20Charts/Adelaide.gif [11:21] apparnetly 14MHz is good to the UK atm [11:21] but i guess not good enough [11:22] plus the noise floor in my area is shocking [11:22] getting S5 noise here [11:22] fsphil could you hear that ? [11:22] sorry UpuMobile, had to run outside and cover the balun - started raining [11:23] 100 watts? you git :p [11:23] lol [11:23] try again [11:23] listening on 14.247.50 [11:23] USB [11:23] actually getting very thundery here :) [11:24] did you hear my cq ? [11:24] I heard nothing [11:24] canna hear shit, capt'n [11:24] this buzz is kill'ing me [11:24] its daylight over there, right? [11:24] shame never mind [11:24] yeah [11:24] bah [11:24] d layer will kill everything [11:24] Dark you in oz ? [11:24] you ain't gonna get ay local propagation in on 20m [11:24] UpuMobile: yes [11:24] wanna try 80m? [11:24] you guys need to be trying 80m to talk locally [11:24] brb one sec [11:25] sure give me a frequency [11:25] 3.590MHz [11:25] of course that won't get to me [11:25] anyway, dinnertime [11:26] just tuning [11:26] no can't do 80 sorry [11:26] caqn do 40 [11:26] 7.168.00 [11:26] lsb [11:27] has anyone here got an fsa03 set up? [11:28] yeah sorry dragging the channel off topic sorry :) [11:28] UpuMobile, wanna join #hamaltitude ? [11:32] shenki (~joel@182-239-206-196.ip.adam.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:32] amboar (~amboar@182-239-206-196.ip.adam.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:33] UpuMobile (UpuMobile@82.219.244.11) left irc: [11:33] shenki (~joel@182-239-197-185.ip.adam.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [11:36] amboar (~amboar@182-239-197-185.ip.adam.com.au) joined #highaltitude. 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[14:31] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:31] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [14:34] oh wow.. the rain has stopped! [14:34] been raining non stop for over 12hrs! [14:37] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046177042079.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:37] sunny here atm [14:38] though I see a few dark clouds about [14:38] fsphil: it was pretty windy and blowy in dublin [14:41] hi eroomde, how's things [14:42] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046177195213.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [14:49] Chingy (8afad100@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.250.209.0) joined #highaltitude. [14:50] Hi everyone :) [14:50] howdy [14:51] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046177195213.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:51] gb73d (gb73d@81-178-181-135.dsl.pipex.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:55] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046177067142.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [14:58] hi eroomde, how's things [14:58] how did i manage that [14:58] jonsowman: good thanks [14:58] :\ I really have no idea [14:58] you? [14:59] not too bad, revising :( [14:59] :( [14:59] ipython is really nice, it turns out [14:59] i doubt this was a surprise to anyone really [14:59] but i have been enjoying it quite a lot [14:59] it looks neat :) [15:00] I've been doing nothing interesting whatsoever [15:00] unfortunately you gotta do it once a year [15:00] tis crap [15:00] heh yes, I'll survive [15:00] couple of weeks and they'll be over [15:05] yup [15:05] do i have to retsart irssi to load in a new theme? [15:05] /reload might work [15:05] oh [15:05] /set theme [15:06] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:06] which theme are you using out of interest? I never really found one I liked [15:07] just one that works on a white background [15:07] i can't see yellow on white when someone mentions my nick [15:07] ah right [15:08] nickcolor.pl has a dark blue colour that's hard to see on a black background [15:08] maybe I'll look for a theme one day [15:08] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [15:10] jonsowman: can you ping me svp? [15:10] eroomde: ping [15:10] oooh nice [15:10] better? [15:10] this is trakhel.theme [15:10] pretty purple [15:10] they looks pretty nice [15:10] I like my black backgrounds though :P [15:11] irssi themes seem to be more usefully described as colour schemes [15:11] and with very little variation at that [15:13] mixio (mixio@ppp046177067142.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:13] mixio (mixio@ppp046177067142.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Client Quit [15:15] whoever invented PL-259 deserves a slap [15:15] lol [15:16] he had a 3-phase soldering iron [15:16] haha [15:16] how was he to know the rest of the world doesn't? [15:16] i prefer bayonet connectors [15:16] see, bayonet connecters were first used to connect bayonets to guns [15:17] and as we all know, what works good for killing people works good in RF engineering too [15:17] no that's not true [15:17] counterexample: XML [15:17] ? [15:17] yea, XML sucks at RF [15:17] i was on a project that wanted to send sensor data between a mesh of sensor stations [15:18] they decided that the best way to do this was to increase the badnwidth requirement 4000 times by wrapping the occassional bytes in masses of xml [15:18] D: [15:18] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [15:18] xml makes me sad [15:18] aah good old xml [15:19] and when that didn't work, they went back to that old saying: "XML is like violence - if it's not working, you need to use more of it" [15:19] and it became a nonsense [15:19] kd0mto (~dago@74-94-125-113-illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #highaltitude. [15:27] fsphil: http://slaros.blogspot.com/ [15:27] how do u find my new board? [15:28] excellent work m1x10 ! [15:29] that looks very logically and clearly layed out [15:29] love the colour :) [15:29] actually wow m1x10 [15:34] hmm, has anyone used expanding foam before to fill gaps in payload box? I've got a few gaps between poly sheets which I have stuck to outside of box for extra insulation (with glue gun).. but worry the expanding foam may be to vicious and rip off the sheets! [15:35] The foam sets hard quite quickly. [15:35] thx [15:35] Now I need to solder the components and test it [15:36] Don't use too much in a sealed box - it will blow it open [15:36] I have one more last month in the army and Im set free !! [15:36] Woo! [15:36] Congrats. [15:36] thx SpeedEvil [15:36] sounds like i went yesterday [15:36] nice one m1x10 :) [15:36] ok SpeedEvil, just a bit then should be good? [15:37] cuddykid: a little will work more or less like glue. [15:37] yeah, very ncice m1x10 [15:37] great thanks SpeedEvil [15:37] cuddykid: Pay scrupulous attention to washing out the nozzle - or you won't ba able to use it again. [15:37] ooo.. thanks for heads up! [15:38] Well - you can. [15:38] If you drive a nail into the can. [15:38] But that's harder to seal. [15:38] :) [15:39] :) [15:41] http://imagebin.org/155911, http://imagebin.org/155912 [15:41] thats my last pics :) [15:42] in 2nd pic I read avr tutorials :p [15:42] smea (~smealum@85-171-206-227.rev.numericable.fr) joined #highaltitude. 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[17:27] jonsowman: ping [17:31] Laurenceb_: pong [17:31] hi, youve use dthe fsa03 right? [17:31] no not really [17:31] why? [17:32] im trying to change baudrate [17:32] oh, I can't help there, sorry [17:32] :( [17:32] just saw your name on wiki page [17:33] i might have it working now, but it wont ack the change baudrate command [17:33] wonder if it changes the baud then acks [17:33] oh I think I was just adding the tinygps link [17:33] ah [17:33] oh, correcting gramma apparently :P http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:falcom_fsa03?rev=1284023819&do=diff [17:34] *grammar [17:34] heh [17:37] irssi's url parser seems to hiccup on colons [17:37] which is annoying [17:37] I think it's gnome terminal rather than irssi [17:37] i was just getting to correcting myself^ [17:37] :) [17:38] it is a bit of a pain [17:38] m0lep (~irc-clien@41.215.92.41) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:44] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:47] bbl [17:48] SamSilver (2985f564@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.245.100) left irc: Quit: Page closed [17:55] mixio (mixio@ppp046177074105.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:01] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:02] mixio (mixio@ppp046177158141.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [18:05] in c is the a way to include the compilation time? [18:06] so i could have a string autodefined as the compilation date? [18:06] there's some macros that autoresolve to useful variables, like compiler version, etc [18:06] perhaps there's one for time too [18:07] problem is that they are strongly compiler dependent [18:07] worst case, just fix your buildsystem so that it writes an header with "#define $time" :p [18:08] Laurenceb: Do it in the makefile [18:09] gcc flags - -D [18:09] -Dcompile_time=`date "+%s"` [18:12] mixio (mixio@ppp046177158141.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [18:12] mixio (mixio@ppp046177102127.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [18:13] Received email: Gareth "[UKHAS] Re: CAA contact?" [18:14] akaGoose (~akaGoose@cpc9-hawk13-2-0-cust177.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:16] Hi all [18:17] hi [18:17] I've got a couple of questions regarding a high altitude balloon project that I'm putting together.... [18:17] fire away [18:17] Cool [18:17] Action: SpeedEvil shoots the goose. [18:17] Action: SpeedEvil gets the oven ready. [18:18] Nom! [18:18] What's your project? [18:18] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:18] http://i.imgur.com/afAMU.png [18:18] GeekShad0w (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:18] ^5hz is working at 57000baud XD [18:19] Laurenceb: is it a butterfly? [18:19] I'm in the uk and wanted to know if it's legally possible to use a mobile phone to track the balloon ? [18:19] thats deviation in m [18:19] Laurenceb: No - wait - a penguin wearing a batman outfit. [18:19] akaGoose: legally, yes, there's no problem [18:19] from my gps, in my living room :P [18:19] LaurencebL Not terrible [18:19] i managed to get 57600 baud off the fsa03 [18:19] akaGoose: but technically we don't like it because they only work up to about 2km altitude [18:19] considering it was inside on the gnd floor [18:19] And less than 2km if you're lucky [18:20] akaGoose: legal but GSM coverage is sketcky above 5km at best [18:20] Laurenceb: That's not really bad at all. [18:20] there was a glitch on my usartrebaud code [18:20] Yeah I thought that might be the answer [18:20] akaGoose: we prefer RF telemetry really [18:20] cused it to send out some crap that made the fsa03 decide to forget the last message [18:21] so it wouldnt rebaud [18:21] LaurencebL So GPS + Mag + accel + gyro + pressure working? [18:21] And CPU of course. [18:21] I have a spare iPhone with a broken screen that I was going to use.. The cost of the rf equipment puts me off going for that method on the first try... [18:21] pressure not fully tested [18:21] it talks, but i havent got reound to trawling the forums for driver code [18:21] akaGoose: Also - compare cost of RF to cost of selling phone on ebay, or replacing the screen then doing the same. [18:22] theres no proper datasheet for it [18:22] akaGoose: the cost of the electronics is not as much as the balloon + helium + chute [18:22] The rf receivers are expensive thought right? [18:22] the receivers are expensive but you can probably borrow one [18:22] akaGoose: that is true, you may well be able to borrow [18:22] gps is now set to 5hz, high dynamics, 57000 baud [18:22] russss got there first :) [18:22] should work up to 50KM too XD [18:22] :) [18:22] akaGoose: you only need an amateur set that can do SSB, which are very common [18:22] and you will generally have the advantage of lots of other listeners too [18:23] yeah I've noticed that [18:23] DarkCow (~DarkCow@5adefc6a.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:24] What's the most - I think I've seen about 10 receiving one payload. [18:24] Though of course not all the way down. [18:25] Can you recommend a cheap receiver that can do ssb? [18:25] ah sweet - gps velocity picks up my shaking it on desk [18:25] akaGoose: you could do just gsm on first flight, I think some others have done so on 1st flight... but try and get rf link.. would make chance of recovery better I would think [18:25] DarkCow (~DarkCow@5adefc6a.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:25] akaGoose: the cheapest is usually the Yaesu FT-790r [18:25] Laurenceb_:woah! Have you got some military spec gps there?! [18:25] akaGoose: seen them go on ebay for ~�150 [18:25] just an fsa03 [18:26] they can go as low as �60 [18:26] but set to 5hz, high G [18:26] That's not too bad [18:26] fsphil: really? hmm [18:26] might have to grab one at that rate [18:26] what mine cost jonsowman :) [18:26] oo [18:26] Laurenceb_: oh right! [18:26] I think I'll just stick the iPhone in my first flight.. [18:26] well there you go then akaGoose, pretty cheap [18:26] also there's the very untested funcube dongle, about �120 [18:26] got by Ft-817 for around �150 iirc [18:26] cuddykid: where?! [18:26] you got an 817 for �150? [18:27] ebay, yeah, wasn't in the best of conditions though [18:27] ah [18:27] but still [18:27] nonetheless, that's very cheap [18:27] had to ventilate it for a good few weeks, stank! [18:27]