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[08:10] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176198104.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:21] Received email: aiqy65@googlemail.com "[UKHAS] Payload Data & Tracker" [09:06] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176211159.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [09:09] oooh 2.4ghz video [09:09] where/ [09:09] :p [09:18] ^^ email above [09:19] they're going to fly a 2.4ghz video module on a flight [09:20] Laurenceb (~Laurence@host86-172-206-152.range86-172.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:20] sory i dont see any mail [09:20] i get many d/c [09:20] aah, so you did [09:20] Received email: aiqy65@googlemail.com "[UKHAS] Payload Data & Tracker" [09:20] on the ukhas mailing list [09:21] http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas/browse_thread/thread/346939da6dfa5cd1 [09:21] yes, isnt a normal link that i can see and read something? [09:22] i joined [09:22] lol, many threads exists there [09:22] i still dont know how to use this thing [09:23] Received email: Keith Lovern "Re: [UKHAS] Information Please" [09:28] well up to now [09:28] i counted all my paypal transcactions [09:29] which all have to do with hab [09:29] 1560Euro [09:31] of course thats not a total cost of my hab. Those money include the whole R&D costs plus my 'lessons' on electronics. [09:31] yikes [09:32] I don't know how much mine cost -- the parts that flew where less than Ł250 [09:32] but the radio on the ground was expensive [09:32] however I use that for other things too [09:32] my recent calculations give me a cost of about 300-400Euro for my hab [09:32] fuel for driving wasn't too cheap either, and the price of the laptop for tracking [09:32] lol [09:33] and i still have to buy balloon helium parachutes [09:33] and fual for speedboats [09:33] :P [09:33] fuel* [09:33] I solved the fuel problem last time by not finding it :) [09:33] oooooh [09:34] i wonder that dish for the 2.4ghz video link how heavy and big is.. [09:34] i dread to think what we've spent on habs [09:34] I have a dish, it's about 1 metre wide and not tooo heavy but you wouldn't want to be holding it for long [09:35] worth every penny ;) [09:35] not sure! [09:36] easily over Ł50k. Just think what else you can do with that [09:37] mmm giant rocket [09:38] I wonder if you could get something into orbit for Ł50k -- what's the price for a cubesat launch these days? [09:39] the actual going rate for a cubesat launch that is realistic is about Ł30k [09:40] but it'd cost more that Ł20k to develop a cubesat [09:40] at least, one that was worthy of spending Ł30k to launch! [09:44] I'm not even sure what I'd launch [09:44] gotta have a camera whatever it is [09:46] fsphil: i say "an sms" or "a sms" [09:46] ? [09:47] like: I want to send [an/a] sms [09:48] satellite texting service? [09:48] you'd be a while waiting for a pass:) [09:48] what? [09:48] fsphil: check http://slaros.blogspot.com/2011/05/work-so-far.html [09:49] ooh, "an sms". though most people here just say "a text" [09:50] :) [09:54] "Balloon data relay satellite" [09:59] i wonder [09:59] some people put cameras to take video some other to take pcitures some other both [09:59] if i make the camera take video [09:59] i can also take pics of that video [09:59] so i can have both images and video [10:00] am I thinking something wrong? [10:03] no rules what do you mean by taking pics of the video? [10:03] the frames [10:04] i can have thousands of pictures if i decode a video to frames [10:04] the picture quality is usually not nearly as good [10:04] when taken from a video? [10:04] the resolution will be lower, and the compression that videos use will probably be a lower more destruction than the photo compression [10:08] afk [10:24] But I do have to make one comment about the wedding, one that I suspect you wont see elsewhere. The amazing display of hats certainly caught my eye. In fact, I believe many of them were antennas in disguise, cleverly camouflaged. I am pretty sure I saw a folded dipole, a log-periodic Yagi, a few helicals, and even a VSAT (very small aperture terminal) dish, maybe two. Hey, it could be. . . .or am I "projecting" here? [10:44] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176211159.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:48] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176234017.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:17] mattltm-mob (~mattltm@82.132.211.110) joined #highaltitude. [11:17] hi all. [11:17] eeevening [11:18] lol. hi fsphil. got your new toy? [11:18] smea (~smealum@89-156-20-102.rev.numericable.fr) joined #highaltitude. [11:18] nothing yet .. it's city link so it could be any time [11:18] ah yes. city link. [11:19] I'm in the garage waiting for an mot Retest. [11:19] fun fun [11:19] long to wait? [11:20] it failed on headland aim. should take about 20 mins. [11:21] what is headland aim? [11:21] hmm [11:21] anyone here have an IC-7000? [11:21] Darkside: I do [11:21] not me. [11:21] eroomde: how do you find it? [11:21] i'm considering getting one [11:22] i'm a little bit concerned about the UHF power amp issue [11:22] it's in a box, so i look for the box [11:22] oh lol, you don't use it? [11:22] no, that's how I find it [11:22] i was being silly [11:22] i think it's great [11:22] bah [11:22] ok [11:22] lol. [11:22] I've not had any issues with my UHF amp - what is the issue? [11:22] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176234017.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:22] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176234017.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:22] ahh in some radios the UHF amp blows up [11:23] with smoke [11:23] at least, this is what i'mr eading on eham [11:23] also have you done the band expansion mod on yours? [11:24] Darkside: I've not had it blow on me yet and I have done ful power UHF with it a fair bit. Though never for more than about 20s at a time [11:24] I haven't done the mod - not eneded to yet. Though it's trivial [11:25] a few jumpers [11:25] no wait, thats yaesu [11:25] i think its removing a diode [11:25] http://www.rigpix.com/icom/ic7000.jpg mmmmm its so pretty [11:26] Darkside: yep it is just removing a diode [11:26] and yes, it is very pretty [11:26] nice and sensitive too [11:27] it's often decoding HABS after the 817 has given up [11:27] especially with the reasonably good onboard filtering options [11:28] yeah [11:28] and CI-V controllable [11:28] yep [11:28] it's lovely [11:28] mm ok [11:28] you won't regret it [11:28] my bank account will [11:29] it'll recover :) [11:29] but i can just afford it at th emoment [11:29] AUD$1500 [11:29] ooch [11:29] for new [11:29] and AUD$1300 for a slightly used one [11:29] Action: fsphil is suffering after getting an ft857d [11:29] http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ICOM-IC-7000-HF-VHF-UHF-RADIO-1YR-GTEE-IC7000-UNUSED-/270737150608?pt=AU_Electronics_Radio_Equipment&hash=item3f09311290 [11:29] fsphil: yeah i was considering the 897D [11:29] but i think i prefer this [11:30] and i'm also considering adding an IF tap to it [11:30] since the IC-7000 has a 124MHz 1st IF [11:30] that could go straight into the funcube dongle [11:31] good idea [11:34] bored bored bored. [11:34] make a board [11:34] waiting is boring. [11:46] I spy... [11:48] Nearly Ł1200. Too rich for me. [11:52] mattltm-mob (~mattltm@82.132.211.110) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:53] whats the recommended (in the sorta < 200 GBP price range) kit - yes fleabay is fine :-) [11:58] depends on what bit of the kit? [11:58] Action: hibby reckons for tracking habs on the go, a chinese UHF friendly handy from fleabay and some sort of directional antennaa is the way forward [11:58] can make a helix for a tenner, max. [11:59] the chinese handys do ssb? [11:59] You can use FM - you have much worse performance - but... [12:00] If you're actively tracking it - you can live with ~50km range, not 400 [12:00] Action: Elwell has a wouxun wotsit for FM/UHF but needs something SSB capable [12:00] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176234017.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:00] Co-channel interference is of course much worse [12:00] SpeedEvil, does the SSB signal get through the discriminator? [12:00] Or you poke Laurence, and get him to finish his USB thingy. :) [12:00] GW8RAK: There is no such thing as a SSB signal [12:01] However. [12:01] Very true. [12:01] snigger [12:01] spot the radio nerds :) [12:01] What you get out - with the current setup - is the 'raw' bitstream - with 0-100Hz removed [12:01] hahaha.. oh wait [12:01] So you need to reconstruct the signal [12:01] Also - you're vulnerable to it locking into any other signal in the band. [12:04] Have you tried it SpeedEvil, what sort of performance do you get? [12:04] No. [12:04] I'm going from theroy. [12:04] The discriminator is not going to lock until the signal is a fair way above the whole in-band noise [12:05] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176132170.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [12:05] Action: hibby wouldn't mind an ic-706 [12:06] When it does, you'll get a high-pass filtered bitstream. [12:06] At low amplitude [12:07] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc5-cdif13-2-0-cust232.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:08] Afternoon [12:08] Isn't it just easier to buy a 790? [12:09] You could always leave it in FM mode if you want to make it difficult. :) [12:09] are there cheaper scanners? RX-only? [12:14] I bought a Yupiteru 7000, but it's not as sensitive as my 726. But can be rectified with a preamp [12:14] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176132170.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:20] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176136217.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [12:22] how difficult would a 70cm receiver kit be? [12:24] Laurenceb is threatening one. [12:24] I don't think soon though. [12:24] Not beyond the skills of a competent person. There are various receive converters which go before an HF set. [12:25] I made a quick and dirty one for 23cms with a local oscillator and a mixer to give 28MHz out. It worked, but not very well. 70cm should be a bit easier [12:26] There are a number of chips today that can take a very precise 10MHz - say from a crystal - mobile phone crystals are good - and output a very precise frequency [12:26] which helps [12:26] You still need filters though [12:26] With a stable local oscillator, then a direct conversion rx should be quite simple. Something like the R2. [12:27] analog.com has cheap mixers too [12:29] According to the books, the impedance matching to the mixer is the critical stage, but easy to do. [12:31] GW8RAK:http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:chipcon_cc1020_software_define_radio [12:32] Action: Laurenceb_ has just desoldered his lsm303dlh :( [12:32] soldering was perfect [12:32] cant see why it couldnt have wroked [12:33] :( [12:33] i tried replacing the S/R caps with MLCC [12:34] and bit banging the i2c in case it was an issue with the bus pirate [12:34] Odd. [12:34] but the magno was dead [12:34] looks like the soldering has worked out perfectly - no shorts or dry joints underneath [12:34] soldering a new one on is going to be hard [12:35] http://hem.passagen.se/communication/uv916rec.html is one I fancy trying. [12:35] Been trying to find the tv tuner for a while [12:38] interesting [12:39] Isn't the web brilliant. You decide what you want to do, get it planned and then a bit of surfing finds 20 other ways of doing the same job. [12:47] GW8RAK: Lots of TV stuff has gone away. [12:47] I was looking a couple of years back for a nice TV modulator chip - to plug into my mobile phone and make a tiny TV transmitter. [12:48] There were lovely I2C+composite->UHF chips - all discontinued. [12:48] Those specific tv tuners certainly have. I've ripped a number of tv's apart, but the tuners are typically without markings of any sort. [12:49] But they probably all work on the same protocol, so it may just be a case of experimentation [12:49] Action: SpeedEvil should probably get out of bed. [12:49] having a lazy day. [12:49] When, I have the time. [12:49] It's a lovely day here, you can't stay in bed all day. [12:50] Also - look at linux. [12:50] The 'hauppage' / bt848 driver [12:50] Tehre are a number of tuner variants [12:50] That you could look up [13:03] http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/05/04/mujahideen_secrets_screen.jpg [13:03] looooolll [13:05] the funniest thing is its running on windows [13:16] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176136217.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:21] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176151201.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [13:24] SpikeUK (d0331fa2@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:38] anyone here? [13:38] http://ava.upuaut.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/antenna.jpg [13:38] Funky. [13:39] I'd put ping-ping balls or something on the ends of the wires - but neat. [13:39] how is that called? [13:39] type of antenna [13:40] 1/4 wave with ground plane [13:40] ground plane [13:40] yes [13:41] http://www.rarcpio.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/2metergp006.jpg [13:41] definately an ideal antenna [13:41] the vertical bit is half a wavelngth long (17.5cm at 434mhz) and the horizontal parts are the ground plane which must ideally at least half a wavelength long but the longer and the more of them the better [13:41] i think eroomde means quarter wavelength [13:42] yes he does [13:42] thanks [13:42] J-pole worked well for us, also, but something like piano wire or a coathanger would have been a better material [13:42] for all the SUNSET antenna [13:42] piano wire is flexible so doesn't poke people#s eyes out [13:42] as opposed to coat hanger [13:42] why ava's antenna got 3 wires and the 2metergp006.jpg shows 4 wireS? [13:42] m1x10: there are 4 [13:42] the other is just behind the plug [13:43] but it doesn't matter - you can use 2 if you want [13:43] ok [13:43] the more the better though. most people use 4 [13:43] futurity (~anonymous@cpc29-cmbg15-2-0-cust249.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [13:43] all that part is doing is being an approximation of an infinitely large, flat, ground plane [13:43] i plan to make my own first antenna [13:43] i heard something about bending them back at 40-45 degrees for impedance matching [13:43] and this would be a ground plane [13:44] not sure how true that is [13:44] jonsowman: do the maths :P [13:44] It depends on the impedence you want to match to [13:44] As to the angle you need [13:44] SpeedEvil: 50ohm [13:44] Randomskk: hehe yea okay [13:44] IIRC you need to bend it for 75 ohm [13:44] I may be misremembering [13:44] SpeedEvil: ah okay [13:44] it's gonna be flat if you want 50 ohm in theory [13:44] right [13:44] as I say, it's just 1st year elctro-magnets chaps :p [13:45] or is it 2nd year now? they fiddled with it as everyone found it complicated [13:45] we haven't done anything vaguely useful for calculating the impedance of an antenna [13:45] and are into the electives in second year [13:45] hmm [13:45] we have just about covered the idea that you actually want to match impedances [13:46] we definitely did this in my day [13:46] showing that a dipole has 50 ohms imp [13:47] we can do like, coax or microstrip [13:48] but essentially all of it is for things that are variably long and repeating [13:48] i think the dipole case would be trivial if you can do co-ax and microstrip [13:48] infact that's the kind of things that might be a tripos q so read up on it! [13:49] I'm doing a masters in Elec & mechanical engineering and haven't had any communications theory [13:49] and our EM class was pretty irrelevant too back in 2nd-ish year [13:49] all the antenna stuff was at the end of last term and antennas were skipped very quickly [13:49] the stuff they rush of ten ends up having a question about it [13:49] we covered the types but not doing anything useful mathematically [13:49] hah indeed [13:50] that's why everyone in my 2nd year got in a flap when they did singular value decomposition in the lin-alg course in about 7 minutes at the end [13:50] Helll World [13:50] oops :) Hello [13:50] eroomde: they still do that [13:50] W0OTM: you went all pastor on us then [13:50] Heeellll World [13:50] LMAO [13:51] jonsowman: yep. we got an email from the teaching office assuring us there wouldn't be a q on svd [13:51] hmm we got no such email [13:51] if it's not in past papers don't weat it [13:51] ok :) [13:52] we got all sorts of stupid promises that turned out to be lies [13:52] like displacement diagrams [13:52] which he ran out of time to lecture on [13:52] they're like the government [13:52] spent more time complaining [13:52] ok check this oit [13:52] out [13:52] http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/ [13:52] eventually put on a bonus lecture after the end of full term [13:52] I didn't go [13:52] watch N613G [13:52] from what I hear nor did many people [13:52] For anyone wanting to try 868MHz, this is interesting http://hem.passagen.se/communication/tr1001.html [13:52] he told us we wouldn't be examined on them >_> [13:52] so much for that [13:54] 9.90 Euros for the transceiver is reasonable [13:54] "bonus lecture"? [13:55] pulls fromAPRS [13:55] W0OTM: very cool? [13:55] s/?/. [13:55] hibby: quite [13:56] also displays both imperial and metric [13:56] hibby: also he sucked and I didn't like him at all [13:56] so [13:56] so I did pretty awfully in structures last year [13:58] hah. for a guy that's studied electrical and mechanical engineering for many years, I can confirm that I'm crap at most things mechanical bar heat transfer and some simple dynamics [14:00] oh btw [14:00] if you like lisp, you'll love... [14:00] the structure and interpretation of classic mechanics [14:00] starts off with what you already know, then does langrangian (which I never fully grokked) then off into hamiltonian [14:01] looks like the missing book for engineers of a more info/cs/mathmo bent [14:02] Randomskk: i did a 3rd year dynamic course which was useful (3C5 - dynamics with hugh hunt) which was actually very interesting and pretty good [14:02] keeps your toe in the water. lots of gyro stuff which was interesting [14:02] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:03] I'm quite tempted to take dynamics or vibrations or something, haven't made my mind up yet [14:03] I also want to take a lot of very exciting looking modules [14:04] dynamics > vibrations imo [14:04] Dynamics in 3rd year for us was vibrations [14:04] for general control theory and stuff you it's useful to have the basics like inertia tensors [14:04] it explains why mobile phones twist about another exis if you spin them in one [14:04] for example [14:04] which was fascinating and made a chunk of 3F2 make a lot more sense too [14:06] Randomskk: this thing: http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~hemh/tumble_bookbwc.gif [14:07] hugh hunt makes the best gifs [14:07] thanks for the recommendation though, I'll definitely consider that for my not-info/elec module :P [14:08] plus management :| [14:08] a lot of control theory benefits from some dynamics knowledge. so yes, i give it the thumbs up [14:08] yea, it really seems like it would. like my quadcopter >_> [14:16] mattltm-alt (~mattltm-a@mail.icm2.org.uk) joined #highaltitude. [14:16] Hi all :) [14:18] aah, you survived the mot [14:19] Matt! [14:25] Just about phil. You got your toy yet? [14:25] Hey Nigey :) [14:25] Have fun with that. [14:25] NigelMoby: You need to build a longwire antenna for it. [14:27] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:29] fsphil: how familiar are you with the tracker code? [14:30] fsphil: or is it more jc's baby [14:30] not at all W0OTM - I believe natrium42 did a lot of it [14:30] mattltm-alt, no sign of it yet.... [14:32] :) [14:33] mattltm-alt (~mattltm-a@mail.icm2.org.uk) left irc: [14:34] meh, it'll probably be tomorrow now [14:35] fsphil: does jcoxon do much with it? [14:35] fsphil: or mainly natrium42 [14:36] that I couldn't answer [14:36] ok [14:36] SamSilver (2985f452@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.133.244.82) joined #highaltitude. [14:36] I only really work on dl-fldigi [14:37] LOL - look - autopilot works REALLY well [14:37] http://www.ihabproject.com/Tracker/?vehicle=N613G [14:40] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc5-cdif13-2-0-cust232.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:40] guessing that's not real :) [14:40] no, its live [14:40] its a commercial jet [14:40] via APRS [14:43] aaaah [14:43] commercial jets transmit aprs data in the US? [14:43] yeah [14:44] http://aprs.fi/info/a/N613G [14:45] do they have their on frequency or is this on the amateur band? [14:45] !call KA4HRD [14:45] Jasperw (~jasperw@93.89.81.29) joined #highaltitude. [14:45] must me a ham pilot [14:56] hmf new soldered lsm303dlh gives same issue :( [14:59] DarkCow (~DarkCow@02d98ef5.bb.sky.com) left irc: Quit: Connection reset by GCHQ [15:23] mattltm (~mattltm@92.29.185.163) joined #highaltitude. [15:23] mixio (~m1x10@ppp046176198007.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:23] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176151201.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:25] hey mattltm [15:25] Hi :) [15:25] how do i make this antenna then? lol i got 3 reels of wire.... [15:26] You will need a 3.5mm headphone jack. [15:26] i can salvage 1 ... [15:26] Mono or stereo but mono is beter. [15:26] hm think it'll be stereo [15:27] 3000 gram balloon [15:27] 11.6 LBS payload [15:27] 15.6 LBS lift [15:27] WOW [15:27] To start off with, you could try an inductor coil instad... [15:29] ooooh... there's a parcel in reception.... [15:30] mixio (~m1x10@ppp046176198007.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:31] woo n1 phil [15:31] Action: mattltm thinks that he should have sent a load of random packages to fsphil all due for delivery today :p [15:31] lmao [15:31] Now why didn't we think of that earlier mattltm [15:32] "Yay! its here. Oh no, its just another box of shreaded paper!" [15:32] lol. [15:33] lol [15:33] "But I didn't order saw dust..." [15:33] lol. [15:33] Even better would have been a box of bits and a label saying 857 Kit [15:34] lol. [15:34] *evil* [15:34] cunningly they have the name of the shop on the label :p [15:34] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176200078.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:35] I get sooooo many d/c [15:35] wtf [15:35] i cant chat with chicks damn it! [15:35] m1x10 asl? [15:35] Check out my live chick webcam: http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/box1 [15:35] sam = samantha [15:35] kick SamSilver [15:35] lol [15:36] fsphil: not found [15:36]