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[01:33] yeah that might slightly hamper things :( [01:38] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:39] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [01:42] SpikeUK (519f48be@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:46] spacefelix (809ecabb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.158.202.187) left irc: Quit: Page closed [01:49] Nick change: TraumaKitteh -> TraumaPony [02:01] ping juxta [02:04] hey Darkside [02:04] were you going to head into the city today? [02:05] yep I think so [02:05] coolio [02:05] I need to go pickup a fountain [02:05] is it raining where you are Darkside? [02:05] cant see outside well enough [02:05] heh [02:08] how does a kitty turn into a pony? :| [02:09] Evolution [02:09] Action: TraumaPony is a pokemon [02:09] :p [02:09] ping Zuph [02:09] pong NigeyS [02:09] geomagnetic index just shot to 5 :| [02:10] k5 [02:10] huh [02:10] russs said anything over 4 should warrant concern .. *shrugs* [02:56] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:23] woot we are goin great here at white star [03:30] smea (~smealum@85-170-63-217.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:34] stilldavid (~david@stilldavid.com) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [03:34] stilldavid (~david@stilldavid.com) joined #highaltitude. [03:35] Auctus (Auctus@164-172.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) left #highaltitude ("Leaving"). [03:40] nite [03:40] Dan-K2VOL1 (~Dan-K2VOL@69.64.6.69) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:59] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc8-cdif12-2-0-cust22.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:00] Syrill (~0@cpe-72-134-52-220.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:52] @LVL1WhiteStar: No launch before mid next week, competition delayed their flight, more time for us to test our handiwork! #arhab http://gdzl.la/9j2fEr [http://twitter.com/LVL1WhiteStar/status/38460694739423232] [05:02] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc8-cdif12-2-0-cust22.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [05:28] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:33] :D [05:33] more time is good [05:41] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:41] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [05:42] happy b-day, eroomde! 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[08:32] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc8-cdif12-2-0-cust22.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:36] thats because the sun is exploding fsphil :) [08:37] BOOM [08:46] DagoRed (~dago@208-58-114-73.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:49] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [09:02] juxta, Darkside: did you see mike's email? [09:17] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-165-229.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:25] jgrahamc (58d30f4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.211.15.74) joined #highaltitude. [09:27] TangoAlphaWork (~chatzilla@host217-34-50-32.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:28] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-165-229.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:29] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-165-229.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:30] speaking of solar flares, this video is cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=himC51J23vQ [09:37] earth shattering kaboom [09:55] Is it a symptom of a nanny state, that the message about "no danger to earth" has to appear? [09:57] And even if there is danger, is there anything we could do about it? [09:59] there are certain measures which can be taken in response to higher-level flares like decoupling parts of the electricity grid [10:04] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [10:04] We can prevent infrastructure damage, but personnel effects? [10:06] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [10:06] Although most people would probably be more worried if the power went off and they couldn't watch Jeremy Kyle [10:24] ah, so a national power cut might actually help in some ways [10:28] SpikeK (d0331fa2@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [10:32] davidjc (57c2bc56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.188.86) joined #highaltitude. [10:34] If they aren't watching TV, they might breed! [10:38] For God's sake, don't let the power go off. [10:38] lol [10:45] See that's why I don't watch TV. Allows me maximum breeding time. [10:47] GroupO (829ff801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.159.248.1) joined #highaltitude. [11:02] GroupO (829ff801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.159.248.1) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:03] earthshine (~mike@cpc3-orpi1-0-0-cust867.2-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:04] earthshine (~mike@cpc3-orpi1-0-0-cust867.2-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:05] a raised cosine is like a normal cosine, but +0.5? [11:23] oh, divided by 2 too [11:30] Action: SpeedEvil achieves victory over tesco. [11:30] The 160g crisps they claimed they were going to supply turned out to be 150g, and I got a pro-rated refund. [11:31] yes, I'm that bored. [11:32] My scanner has arrived. And it works. Not much work from me today. [11:32] :) [11:32] Very :) [11:39] :D [11:39] I got the bits for my VFO -- for the intermediate practicals [11:39] All ready now for some mobile tracking. [11:40] VFO can be fun and frustrating. Working out why 1 one works and an identical one doesn't. [11:41] So of the homebrew designs should be considered suggestions, rather than guaranteed to work. [11:41] Some of.. [11:42] I'm following the guide in the intermediate book, so hopefully it should be mostly right [11:42] mostly [11:42] I'm sure that one has been well tested. [11:46] the circuit doesn't make sense to me yet [11:46] I was just Googling for it. [11:47] Found it. 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[14:05] GroupO (829ff801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.159.248.1) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:07] Hi all [14:07] jkominar (~justin@64.235.97.218) joined #highaltitude. [14:11] hullo [14:27] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:33] how r u fsphil? [14:49] laurence_ (~laurence@host86-139-204-204.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:50] laurence_ (~laurence@host86-139-204-204.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:56] spacefelix (809ecabb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.158.202.187) joined #highaltitude. [14:58] good, a little hungry :) [14:59] you? [15:00] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc8-cdif12-2-0-cust22.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:00] mornin fsphil [15:01] howdy Dan-K2VOL [15:01] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined #highaltitude. [15:01] did you hear the news? [15:01] we are doing a ground tethered flight? [15:02] ooh don't think I did [15:02] lol [15:02] spacefelix (809ecabb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.158.202.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:02] imrcly also suggested we use bernoulli's principle to keep an air-inflated balloon hovering over the smokestack of an ocean liner all the way across :-P [15:02] all we need is 4000 miles of wire [15:03] lol [15:03] that might work [15:03] the news is that we have 1.5 months in which to take the claim of first amateur balloon to cross the ocean [15:04] Bloody ell k index still at 5 [15:04] talked to Cornell program's adviser, John Checcerelli last night [15:04] seen anything last night NigelMoby? cloudy here [15:04] they are not going to try to cross until their 3rd flight, which will be in april [15:05] that's great news Dan-K2VOL [15:05] Nope dude started to rain :/ [15:05] now all we need is some cold weather [15:05] better hurry, spring is nearly upon us! [15:06] our nest box is already claimed by a pair of birds :) [15:07] Dan-K2VOL: we need to turn the cryo chamber into a snow machine [15:10] i'll gladly send you our weather - we have -30C at nights [15:10] and that's about 20 degrees below average for this time of year :/ [15:10] where the heck are you x-f, northern europe? [15:10] davidjc_ (57c2bc56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.188.86) joined #highaltitude. [15:11] Dan, almost, i'm from Latvia, Baltics [15:11] haha imrcly we did when were trying to test that cloud sensor [15:11] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc8-cdif12-2-0-cust22.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:12] I kept spraying water into it to make ice particles but they just kept making fog and snow [15:12] davidjc (57c2bc56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.188.86) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:12] i might but snow machine on the list of things to make, a snow machine that can fill the alley way [15:12] haha that would be awesome [15:12] we could easily do that, especially with our dry ice expertise [15:13] hey Dan-K2VOL [15:13] hey NigeyS thanks for helping us test the mission control audio VOIP [15:13] no problem at all, glad to help :-) [15:14] We've got a trans-atlantic pilot who will be on our ATC team, I think that will be very valuable in talking to the north atlantic ATC centers [15:14] in fact he couldn't join us last night as he was over the ocean [15:14] that'll be awsome! [15:15] btw .. [15:15] Radio Blackouts R2 [15:15] HF Radio: Limited blackout of HF radio communication on sunlit side, loss of radio contact for tens of minutes. [15:15] ouch [15:16] Goto plan B: ELF! [15:16] lol [15:16] telling you tethered is the way to go [15:16] ive had email updates every hour overnight, it went to K-6 at one point [15:17] and this is only the fallout from the small cme that was a day before the X-2 event :/ [15:17] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [15:18] so no point in working on my HF antenna tonight then [15:18] nope def not lol [15:18] ooooh 2m can be reflected by aurora [15:18] shouldve seen the charts at 2am phil .. [15:18] sounds really weird and distorted [15:18] http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html#satenv [15:18] not nice! [15:18] What is a PLC used for? [15:19] seems to be calming down now [15:19] yeah, from what ive seen it should calm down a bit before the x2 event hits us later tonight [15:19] that's right! forgot there where three cme's [15:20] oh aye, the first was tiny compared to the X2 apparently [15:20] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:31] hmm [15:31] mmh [15:32] next balloon mission... 2m and 70cm meteor burst communications [15:33] sounds like a plan :P [15:35] m1x10, plc ? [15:35] yes [15:35] as in public limited company ? [15:35] lol [15:36] about electronics [15:36] I red the wikipedia article but cant understand [15:36] oh haha no clue, sorry [15:38] meteor burst would be a pretty unique cut-down method ;-) [15:38] here ya go phil, this 1's just for you.. [15:38] http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/drap/index.html [15:39] I think there's a swirling absorption region around my house [15:40] lol oh dear [15:41] I did manage to hear someone on 14mhz the other day [15:41] crikey the aurora map is showing aurora as far south as mid wales [15:41] first time in ages [15:41] what map are you looking at? the one I've got is pretty quiet [15:41] http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/pmapN.html [15:42] I mean, quiet around the UK anyway [15:42] it's pretty red around the artic [15:42] http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/aviation/index.html [15:43] Action: NigeyS is off to the arctic to have lunch with penguins! [15:43] P-p-pick up one for me would ya? :) [15:43] haha sure! [15:44] http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/aviation/sample.html [15:44] get scared when it looks like that :P [15:44] "Proton event" ... don't cross the streams! [15:46] mmm Chocolate Éclairs [15:46] theyre bad for you, you should send them to me for .. testing! [15:47] too late :p [15:47] damn you :p [15:47] reminds me, have zuphs kinder eggs in the fridge [15:47] very dull outside, kinda eerie [15:48] rains stopped here but it doesnt look very pleasant :( [15:48] eek, just looked at the forecast, which I hadn't lol [15:49] we need to install a peltier cooler in the vending machine so the chocolate doesn't melt this summer [15:50] Auctus (~Auctus@164-172.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:50] dont those things have a mini fridge on them ? [15:50] no its just a chip vending machine [15:50] bah :( [15:51] fsphil, 5 days of rain .. lol [15:55] DagoRed (~dago@208-58-114-73.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:57] btw is there a beacon light or something on the bottom of speedball-1 payload ? [15:58] yes [15:58] that explains it then [15:58] had the ustream on the other night, pitch black but saw this light, thought the place was being burgled! lol [15:59] http://www.princetonoptronics.com/technology/technology.php [15:59] ^insanwe [16:00] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [16:02] hey Laurenceb [16:06] Daviey (~Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey) left irc: Excess Flood [16:11] Daviey (~Daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey) joined #highaltitude. [16:25] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) joined #highaltitude. [16:31] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) left irc: Client Quit [16:31] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) joined #highaltitude. [16:54] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:55] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) joined #highaltitude. [17:02] o/ [17:03] yo natrium42 [17:07] hi, NigeyS, how are you? [17:07] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [17:07] im good ta, yourself? [17:11] DanielRi1hman (daniel@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-amdywrmuafcnzqkh) joined #highaltitude. [17:12] DanielRichman (daniel@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-nwthjndmksuppznw) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:12] likewise [17:12] preparing for trip [17:13] oh and giving interview to local tv station today [17:13] :S [17:13] ooo your going to be famous dude! [17:15] http://www.esa.int/images/esa_atv-2_launch_seen_by_nespoli_on_iss.jpg [17:16] That's an awesome picture. [17:17] oh that is sweet [17:30] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [17:31] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-86-31-17-85.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:31] spacefelix (809ecabb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.158.202.187) joined #highaltitude. [17:32] [18:13:17] oh and giving interview to local tv station today <= nice :P [17:40] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [17:47] any idea what that is? [17:57] Hiena (~Hiena@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [18:01] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) joined #highaltitude. [18:03] natrium42, what's the interview on [18:16] ejcweb (~chatzilla@constantine.chu.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [18:20] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:27] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) joined #highaltitude. [18:27] slothearn (~Christine@71.173.193.158) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:29] Dan-K2VOL: high altitude doll launch i did for my brother [18:30] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) joined #highaltitude. [18:31] Auctus (~Auctus@164-172.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:32] heh, natrium42, you flew a blow-up doll as a balloon? [18:32] :)) [18:35] fsphil: it worked without changing something [18:38] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:38] ejcweb (~chatzilla@constantine.chu.cam.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122310] [18:42] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [18:50] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [18:56] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:56] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [18:57] gb73d (gb73d@79-79-130-125.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:58] n e 1 aware of the 7mhz transatlanrtic ballon flight [18:59] gb73d: White Star? I'm on that team. [19:01] hey Zuph ! [19:01] Hola NigeyS [19:01] great job , i am signed up for the launch note [19:01] hope its not sunday cos im out [19:02] gb73d: I can give you complete assurance that it won't be sunday :) [19:02] gb73d: We're targeting no sooner than the middle of next week. [19:03] ok thanks, good im around will go for it Reading, Winradio G303e 18m longwire [19:03] S UK [19:03] Excellent! HF will be rather sparse during cruise to save power, but when we're headed up or down quickly, it should come to life. [19:04] last time it took 3 days to get a copy on 10mhz [19:04] i have fldigi ballon version [19:04] ready to go Houston ! [19:05] wb8elk has had really good luck with dominoEX on 40m. [19:05] what was the last one? [19:05] nah i forget it was years back err [19:05] had a 10mhz cw tx , landed in sea off eire [19:06] from TX [19:06] i think [19:06] last year tried one on 14mhz , no joy here and it didnt get far from home [19:06] good luck [19:07] I think I'd need to be LOS to hear anything on 14mhz [19:16] hehe, jcoxon's SPOT is in Brussels [19:19] Action: laurence_ has laser galvo [19:20] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [19:20] quality is pretty acceptable [19:20] you can tell its cheap but its very acceptable for the price [19:21] havent opened the glavo fully as its in a sealed enclosure [19:21] the power supply and control board look ok :D [19:26] Dooberry (Dooberry@5ad7173c.bb.sky.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:34] Hmm [19:35] http://cgi.ebay.com/laser-show-galvo-scanner-CW20K-Scanning-galvanometer-/120539226623?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c10b2a1ff [19:47] slothearn (~Christine@71.173.193.158) joined #highaltitude. [19:47] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:51] laurenceb that the 1 you have now ? [19:55] yes [19:55] slothearn (~Christine@71.173.193.158) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:56] sweeeet! [19:56] :DDDDDDDD [19:56] Laser shozen! [19:56] Showzen! [19:56] hmm random solutions dont have any parachutes? :( [19:56] Question, but how easy would it be to use a laser system to ignite a rocket motor? [19:56] Dan-K2VOL (Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude. [19:58] he hasn't had any in a while [19:58] rocketsandthings have a few [19:59] 18" be to small you think ? [20:00] lol [20:00] wtf lol [20:03] depends how fast you want it to return to earth :p [20:03] not so fast that it leaves a crater :P [20:06] go for the 24", not much more [20:07] price wise [20:07] http://www.rocketsandthings.com/view/product/188/ [20:07] that 1 ? [20:07] yea [20:08] should be a gentle enough descent with that [20:08] gonna need sunglasses, its kinda bright! lol [20:10] it's brighter than the picture suggests :) [20:10] £7.50 for shipping :O [20:10] multi-coloured too [20:10] ah, forgot about that [20:10] brb, taxi service... [20:11] haha oki [20:12] fsphil: I've always wondered if I put the descent device into a rifle-bullet shaped casing, can I have it fall supersonically after the balloon pop? [20:15] mattltm (~mattltm@92.7.166.43) joined #highaltitude. [20:16] Hi all :) [20:16] some ww2 bombs where supersonic [20:16] so maybe [20:16] tallboy etc [20:16] hey mattltm [20:16] Hey :) [20:17] Supersonic bombs? Looks like I arrived just in time :p [20:17] lol [20:18] Did anyone watch the ATV launch? [20:18] yeah [20:19] Pretty good huh? Apart from the crappy intro! [20:19] wasnt much to see [20:20] A rocket blasting off to space is always worth seeing :) [20:21] Anyone launching this weekend? [20:21] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:22] http://www.skyrocket.de/space/img_lau/energiya_2.jpg [20:22] ^that would have been more worth seeing [20:23] no 1 in my list of most awesome things ever :P [20:25] The first launch went a bit wrong so I recall? [20:25] It went wonky on take off. [20:26] yeah imu initialisation screw up [20:26] quite crazy to watch [20:26] actually no it was the defualt engine position - they forgot to add in the mass of polyus [20:26] so the control loop catches it as it lifts off [20:27] Ahh. [20:27] better than polyus where the imu was in back to front [20:27] lol [20:27] so it deorbited instead of boosting orbit [20:28] probably CIA mole in factory [20:30] talking of space - http://www.sstl.co.uk/getattachment/About-SSTL/Location---Facilities/BREEAM-MAN9-document-Rev-A.doc [20:30] shiny, but how do you manage to spend 1.6G£ a building [20:32] £1592 per m2 [20:32] let me work out how much the building I run cost... [20:34] £1857 per m2 [20:34] Abought right. [20:34] Nice facillity though. [20:34] pocket change [20:35] Our total build bill was 6.5M [20:35] for about 3500 m2 [20:36] The Surrey build looks good [20:37] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:43] GW8RAK_ (~chatzilla@78.147.65.82) joined #highaltitude. [20:45] my house worked out at about £800/m2 [20:45] - renovation [20:46] I would guess my house was 50p/m2 based on the qaulity of construction! [20:47] lol [20:47] Action: Laurenceb_ did almost all the work himself [20:47] so thats materials + plasterer [20:47] Action: SpeedEvil is aiming at rennovating insulation and floor at 10/m^2. [20:47] Action: mattltm wishes he did the work himself [20:48] :) [20:48] ebay++ [20:48] still going for fibreglass? [20:48] Well... [20:48] I'm looking at the various vendors of cheap kingspan for at least half of the house. [20:48] i used xtratherm [20:49] Kingspan qaulity ;) [20:49] and british gypsum where it needed to be really thin [20:49] I'mnot particular as to terand - any sort of foam that'll do under .023W/m/K [20:49] as to brand [20:49] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [20:49] kingspan is no better than xtratherm, just more expensive [20:49] I know [20:50] I was looking at the scratch/dent vendors on ebay, not new fromBM [20:50] if you buy in bulk kingspan will delivery for free and lower price, but aiui stratherm is still cheaper [20:51] I'm looking at ~15 quid a sheet for 70mm [20:51] It looks like that's the minimum proce it goes for on ebay. [20:51] ~50 sheets. [20:51] Recall what you paid? [20:52] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [20:53] no sorry, it was a couple of years ago now [20:53] K. :) [20:54] sounds pretty good, £18 /sheet rings a bell [20:55] it was from local farmer who operated the business out of a barn [20:55] very cheap probably due to dodgey tax stuff :P [20:56] I keep thinking of silly stuff like a couple of sheets of plywood, with spacers, aluminium foil in, and evacuate. :) [20:57] the physics of that is interesting [20:57] Yeah [20:57] it doesnt start working until the mean free path approaches the seperation [20:57] I know. [20:57] just lowering the pressure to say 10mb doesnt work [20:57] MLI helps a lot too [20:57] It's gotta be really low indeed. [20:58] You've got to really pay attention to impurities and pumping. [20:58] yeah [20:59] iirc polypropylene honeycomb is very nice for the spacers [20:59] you can get 2 orders of mag better than the best foam insulation quite easily [20:59] I was looking at simple oak. [20:59] As a tiny fraction of the volume [21:00] spaced at pillars [21:00] yeah [21:00] I hadn't really fully investigated it, before I came to the relisation it was silly :) [21:00] http://www.homefly.com/products.asp?id=31 [21:00] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [21:01] That sort of thing for MLI, yes. [21:02] also for electrostatic speakers/2D laser microphones/solar sails [21:03] Hmm. [21:03] i was thinking for 3D free space sonar [21:03] DanielRi1hman (daniel@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-amdywrmuafcnzqkh) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:03] DanielRichman (daniel@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-jxldllfblbypjmsj) joined #highaltitude. [21:03] a 2D microphone using mylar film and laser + camera [21:03] DanielRichman (daniel@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-jxldllfblbypjmsj) left irc: Changing host [21:03] DanielRichman (daniel@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude. 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Gone blowing up things.=- [22:00] davidjc_ (57c2bc56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.188.86) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:06] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:14] _sh3 (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sh3/x-62271040) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:15] http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21923.0;attach=239250;image [22:15] interesting [22:16] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:17] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:18] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:23] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-86-31-17-85.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] [22:31] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [22:54] Dooberry (~Dooberry@5ad7173c.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:55] Chaps - Quick question. When's the next Cambridge launch that I can pop along to? [22:55] possibly march [22:56] nothing firm atm? [22:56] not that i know of, jonsowman might have a better idea [22:57] no worries, cheers. [22:57] Just come back from the pub with my co-conspirator [22:57] decided there's a sh1t load of stuff we're not too informed on [22:57] ahh, it norm says on the wiki to about upcoming launches [22:57] so thought heading over to another launch might a bit [22:58] *help a bit [22:58] Dooberry, are you subscribed to the ukhas mailing list? there's usually launch announcements there [22:58] Hey fsphil - short answer no. [22:59] Action: NigeyS note to self hot air guns, get hot [22:59] long answer: http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas?hl=en ;) [22:59] long answer - i'll sign up now [22:59] heh [22:59] touche. [22:59] haha [22:59] normally the announcements are made a week before launch [22:59] right, i'll right up now then [22:59] *sign [22:59] ffs [22:59] i'm off laters [22:59] Important safety tip NigeyS :D [22:59] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:00] (thanks though) [23:00] lol tnx phil! [23:00] I read somewhere that every warning sign in an office or factory has a story behind it -- starting to think that's true [23:07] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@96-28-238-68.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:07] Talking of warning signs, the new iso regs come into force next week.. [23:08] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [23:09] Thanks to EU regs, this sign will not be allowed - http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQX1GIBMZtmKNjLq9-pMMJg9ue8VoNlHQksat5LXirXr9gbNEXdcQ&t=1 [23:09] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [23:10] You will have to display this one insted - http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQX1GIBMZtmKNjLq9-pMMJg9ue8VoNlHQksat5LXirXr9gbNEXdcQ&t=1 [23:10] Opps - no, this one - http://www.safetysign.com/images/catlog/product/medium/J6516.png [23:10] should be easy enough to do :p [23:11] they're both yucky [23:11] The public sector organisation that I work for has to replace over 3000 signs and that is just the no smoking ones. [23:11] Dan-K2VOL1 (~Dan-K2VOL@96-28-238-68.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:11] Now thats what I call "best value"! [23:12] Dan-K2VOL1 (Dan-K2VOL@96-28-238-68.dhcp.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude. [23:12] shouldn't it just be a case of replacing as and when they need to be? phasing in the new ones? or is that just too simple [23:12] Has to be done by 2012. [23:12] Thank you EU. [23:18] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:25] Zuph (~bradluyst@69.64.6.69) joined #highaltitude. 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[23:39] TraumaPony (~TraumaPon@203-206-24-241.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [23:39] Evening Dan-K2VOL Dan-K2VOL1 [23:40] omg its Zuph ! :p [23:40] quick, hide! [23:40] oh crap he's seen us! [23:40] run for the hills! [23:40] dammit [23:42] borism (~boris@ec2-79-125-58-77.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) got lost in the net-split. [23:46] Any C wizards around? [23:47] I do C, but def. not a wizard [23:49] Well, maybe just explaining it will help. [23:50] Dan-K2VOL1 (Dan-K2VOL@96-28-238-68.dhcp.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude. [23:52] In this directory structure, I've got main.c, lib/i2c.{c,h} and comm/outputParse.{c,h}. i2c.h is properly included in both main.c and outputParse.c. When I try to operate a function declared in i2c.c from main.c, it operates as expected. When I try to operate a function declared in i2c.c from outputParse.c, it does not call the function. Everything else compiles and links correctly, with no pertinent warnings. [23:53] it just doesn't execute? [23:53] skips the function I mean? [23:54] Function calls to i2c.c from outputParse.c do not execute. Skips right over them. [23:55] spacefelix (809ecabb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.158.202.187) left irc: [23:57] good one [23:59] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:00] --- Sat Feb 19 2011