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[09:04] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Read error: No route to host [09:06] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [09:19] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:05] zwifilms (~vk5gr@CPE-144-136-171-231.sa.bigpond.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [10:05] Evening all! [10:05] juxta you about? [10:13] there's an FT-790R MK2 on ebay atm [10:15] hi zwifilms [10:15] I'm back in now [10:16] two secs - on phone to 5zm [10:17] okay [10:17] Darkside, shenki, you guys around? [10:36] juxta - hi there - back again [10:40] just wondering if you are all set for tomorrow? zsn mentioned you guys were looking at a 9am start too - matt and I will be about then too - will call on 9900 [10:51] Gillerire (~Gillerire@CPE-58-160-210-73.sa.bigpond.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [11:07] juxta: im here, Darkside is at work tonight [11:09] oh right - can I get that radio from you? [11:11] hi juxta, shenki - - juxta - all sorted for tomorrow? I have the videos loaded on the laptop [11:11] excellent [11:11] I pm'd you a little while ago [11:13] juxta: yep. are you coming past henley any time soon? or the city in the morning? [11:13] im still in the city atm [11:13] I dont think so - I'll just grab it when we're back I guess :) [11:13] do you have the other stuff too? [11:14] or has Mark still got all that? [11:14] ok. would you like itbeforeyou go? i can drive up if it's important [11:14] we should be able to get by :) [11:14] ive got the payloadand the reflector [11:14] okay [11:14] did that chap keep the balloon? [11:15] yeah. you'l have to talk to mark aboutthat one, i hadvery little to do with it [11:21] http://uk.farnell.com/invensense/itg-3200/ic-gyro-tri-axis-2000-deg-s/dp/1858279?Ntt=itg-3200 [11:21] ^oh yeah [11:27] Still awaiting delivery [11:27] Action: SpeedEvil looks at height. [11:29] Damn - that would almost fit in a microSD [11:33] you can order it elsewhere [11:34] also the mpu version has better gyros [11:34] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-165-145.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:44] http://invensense.com/mems/gyro/itg3200.html [11:44] does look shiny though [11:44] http://invensense.com/mems/gyro/mpu6000.html mmmmmmm [11:48] gyro porn? [11:48] lol [11:49] fsphil: depends on your orientation I guess [11:49] Action: Elwell gets coat [11:49] classic [11:49] No need to get your coat for that one [11:52] eroomde (~ed@nessie.habhub.org) joined #highaltitude. [11:52] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:55] 5EXAB5IOB (~m1x10@ppp046176042228.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:55] 13WAA32OX (m1x10@ppp046176042228.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [11:55] 13WAA32OX (m1x10@ppp046176042228.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Client Quit [11:56] 5EXAB5IOB (~m1x10@ppp046176042228.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:18] zwifilms (~vk5gr@CPE-144-136-171-231.sa.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:22] im going to order some samples [12:25] Elwell: http://i.imgur.com/r9fp7.png [12:26] for that board... which i may eventually populate [12:26] really needs a v2 with ublox6 [12:26] davejay (521ab9f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.26.185.245) joined #highaltitude. [12:29] :) [12:31] cripe thats dense [12:33] need to get my reflow oven built [12:33] too busy with work :( [12:33] Action: Laurenceb is unsure if anyone has actually got a fsa03 to work [12:33] also dual antenni with ufl connectors - taoglas thin film antenna ftw [12:33] sma connectors a big and heavy anyway [12:33] what do yo umean got a FSA03 to work? [12:41] I used an fsa03 on my last flight -- and apart from getting lost it worked well ;-) [12:41] ok [12:42] the gps worked fine [12:42] yeah it looks good spec wise but som many people have had issues [12:42] I think you just have to be careful when handling them [12:42] i suspect its power supply issues [12:42] my previous ublox5 receivers have been very sensitive to power supply [12:42] most issues I've heard of are because of the fragile antenna [12:43] oh yes [12:43] shenki broke one [12:44] then again it was dropped onto concrete from about a metre [12:44] lmao [12:44] yeah not the most suitable for uav [12:45] also it means theres only one way to mount the board [12:45] on v2 ill leave the cutout and add a ufl connector with ublox6 [12:45] the gpsbee is a tad lighter and seems to be a bit hardier [12:46] i want to try a venus chipset sometie [12:46] sometime* [12:46] apparently they are very good [12:46] i think its possible to do a set of pads that can be used for ufl and a sarantel ant [12:46] Darkside: not for dynamic performance [12:47] hrm [12:47] the people i know that use them, use them on rockets [12:48] ublox is very good in my experience [12:48] cusf used venus and it wasnt good [12:48] the venus isn't good at altitude [12:48] ah yes [12:48] i think it has a 18km cap, right? [12:48] cant remeber [12:48] which is a shame as I got one originally, and have never used it [12:48] the ublox worked well on my rocket :) [12:49] did it retain lock during launch? [12:49] shenki flew a ublox on a rocket last week [12:49] it maintained lcok [12:49] lock* [12:49] wow [12:49] could have just been a fluke... [12:49] did you modify any settings? [12:50] nope [12:50] nope [12:50] it was set up the same as for balloon flights [12:50] https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_wgYzFL0S-Rk/TUgVVX3TSZI/AAAAAAAAQDA/c1-XKN4NMFI/s800/tim-rocket-lca-flight.jpg [12:51] interesting [12:51] in my experience ublox5 is very good [12:51] also lots of the uav people found the same [12:56] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:58] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12335957 [12:58] cheats! [12:58] motherboard and psu were pre-installed [13:01] Also - they diddn't have to populate the motherboard. [13:02] pfff, epic fail [13:03] 'here is a pile of 7400, a wirewrap tool, and an 8088 ASM guide, and an rs232 connector going to a modem. First to connect to the internet wins.' [13:04] haha :D ! [13:04] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [13:09] that is possibly the stupidest thing ever [13:10] It's raising awareness of the charity - so it's not really. [13:10] next up: Olympic pcb layout [13:10] But yes. [13:13] they have artistic kayak dancing so... [13:16] the olympics is such a waste of resources [13:16] i'm sure other uses could be found for £12bn ! [13:17] would buy a lot of He [13:17] oo yush! many hab flights! lol [13:18] could buy a couple of good rocket launches [13:18] first amateur satellite to orbit the moon! [13:19] mmm 12bn .. would get you to mars easily ;) [13:19] oor a solar HAB --- floating above the surface of the sun [13:19] toasty! [13:20] though a balloon wouldn't work too well there, would be more of a glider [13:20] A liquid osmium shell, held in place by maglev. [13:22] or alternatively, hire a couple of consultants for a week. [13:22] hrm, so you cant get spercal mylar balloons? [13:22] i.e. something you could use for a radar target [13:22] oh, are we spent already [13:22] Gillerire (~Gillerire@CPE-58-160-210-73.sa.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:23] totally spent Elwell [13:25] davejay (521ab9f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.26.185.245) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:26] does the balloon have to be the radar target Darkside? could hang something from a regular balloon [13:35] A few strips of foil, and some cardboard [13:36] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:42] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:42] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. 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[14:16] hey m1x10 [14:17] Elevator (~Elevator@ti0040a380-1752.bb.online.no) joined #highaltitude. [14:17] I need asistance with a little test. Could someone please give me their phone number, so that I could call them to check if my caller ID is hidden or not? [14:18] jkominar (~justin@64.235.97.218) joined #highaltitude. [14:19] Hi NigeyS [14:19] Is there nobody here wanting to help me? [14:28] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:30] Elevator (~Elevator@ti0040a380-1752.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Bersirc 2.2, for external use only. [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [14:30] are you a member of the nigerian royal family? [14:30] lol [14:45] mazzanet (~mazzanet@fe1-1.mel-ii.bdr1.mazzanet.id.au) joined #highaltitude. [14:45] mazzanet (~mazzanet@fe1-1.mel-ii.bdr1.mazzanet.id.au) left irc: Changing host [14:45] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) joined #highaltitude. [14:48] m1x10 (~m1x10@ppp046176042228.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:50] Dan-K2VOL (~Dan-K2VOL@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:50] Dan-K2VOL (~Dan-K2VOL@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:53] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176025057.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [14:53] http://rcexplorer.se/projects/TriV2/TriV2.html [14:53] interesting [14:53] there seems to be fewer people working on tricopers than quadcopters [14:55] they're not tri-ing hard enough [14:55] HI [14:55] I get: $PUBX,00,145453.00,4038.96567,N,02256.64338,E,304.947,D3,47,16,1.013,7.01.4*4C [14:56] apparently im loosing characters ! [14:56] http://rcexplorer.se/reviews/domaine/domeine.html [14:56] haha wow [14:56] thats brilliant [14:57] Dan-K2VOL (~Adium@74-143-44-42.static.insightbb.com) joined #highaltitude. [14:57] most epic holiday destination ever [14:57] http://rcexplorer.se/reviews/domaine/files/page60-domainefpv.jpg [15:26] can someone help me with this C++ compiler error? [15:26] http://imagebin.org/135972 [15:29] mattltm (~mattltm@92.7.205.8) joined #highaltitude. [15:37] mattltm (~mattltm@92.7.205.8) left irc: [15:41] MoALTz (~no@92.0.119.168) joined #highaltitude. [15:49] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:49] MoALTz (~no@92.0.119.168) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:04] SpikeUK (d0331fa2@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:07] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-165-145.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] [16:09] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11937285 [16:13] lol oh dear [16:13] dunno, the antennas sticking out of their heads where a bit suspicious... [16:14] holy crap it's windy outside [16:14] the roof is making weird noises [16:15] just a few slates blowing off dont worry dude ;) [16:26] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:27] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [16:31] Windy here too. [16:31] I don't think much has blown off here. [16:34] Received email: "Matthew Beddow" "[UKHAS] ITV Daybreak - Students in Space" [16:36] just hope my hf vertical is still vertical [16:37] I'm still in the office -- was going to take it down this-morning but I didn't ge ttime [16:38] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:38] hmm.. ITV are as good at websites as they are at TV [16:39] lmao its dire isnt it [16:40] woops someone shouldve told them about the cocom limits [16:45] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [16:54] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [16:58] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:04] where did they launch from?> [17:06] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:06] not sure [17:06] hope they had a notam anyhoo [17:07] yeah, not something to be taken lightly. [17:07] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [17:09] ls [17:09] too many terminals spoiling my broth [17:09] hehe [17:10] hey, could someone mentiopn my name in about 5s? [17:11] eroomde, eroomde, eroomde [17:11] woo [17:11] thanks [17:11] eroomde: [17:11] osx terminal finally shows some activity when i get a mention [17:12] eroomde: how? [17:12] :) [17:12] well, iterm :) [17:13] when you say activity... what does it do? [17:13] changes colour [17:14] I've never managed to get iterm to do anything on mention [17:14] you guys using a commandline irc client? [17:14] Dan-K2VOL: irssi [17:14] mmhmm [17:15] oh Dan-K2VOL : the mass flow controller arrived today [17:15] Interesting, i'm using adium [17:15] it's pretty sweet - will do a write-up [17:15] Nice ed [17:15] love to see how that works out [17:15] it's not just a meter, it also controls, so you can tell it how many litres of helium to put in and then go off and do something else [17:15] :o [17:15] that's very cool [17:16] have to see this [17:16] Hell thats awesome [17:16] jonsowman: on that point, we should add to the calc an output in 'litres normal' [17:16] Action: jonsowman pokes Randomskk [17:16] in addition to free lift [17:16] eroomde: that is neat. [17:16] 'normal'? [17:16] it already does litres iirc [17:16] eroomde: probably ideally with a correction in millibars [17:16] litres normal being sea level at 0 celcius [17:16] ugh [17:16] it does litres [17:16] How many £ [17:16] I wonder at what condition it does them [17:17] a blag [17:17] sp zero [17:17] but it's a permenant loan, they say [17:17] i think it's about £3k to buy [17:17] yikes [17:17] you're fortunate fellows [17:17] lots of calibration goes into them, and it's an amazing bit of gleaming stainless steel with rs232 ports and gas ports [17:17] it weight a fair bit! [17:20] http://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/5413790536/ [17:20] the one on the right [17:21] the bit on the left, up to the join, is the flow meter, the bit on the right is the valve [17:22] shiny [17:22] and the rs232 port is for comms. There's pc spftware which has lots of bells and whistles but i think we'll integrate it into a flight case with a numberpad and 7-seg displays and a simple microcontroller [17:22] Indeed. [17:23] it's good for up to 1500L/min, apparently [17:23] i don't imagine we'll run it that high [17:45] MrCraig (~craig@host86-161-27-68.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:45] hi all [17:45] Laurenceb - apologies for skipping out almost mid convo yesterday [18:02] earthshine (~quassel@cpc3-orpi1-0-0-cust867.2-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:03] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Bye [18:28] Gnite people [18:28] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176025057.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [18:28] night m1x10 [18:30] hi all [18:30] n00b question, if i ssh into a remote machine and can see my processes running [18:30] say one of them is a script running in a terminal [18:31] is there any way to interact with it? [18:31] "ps -e" get running processes. I've used a package called screen to start processes and then re-attach to them later to interact with them. [18:33] the way it works is, you type screen to enter a new session, start your script, I think Ctrl+A then D to detatch from that process and finally "screen -a" to reattach at a later time [18:34] hmm [18:34] so if i login now can i do that? [18:35] re-run the script laurence [18:36] cant [18:36] I've assumed you have screen installed - just type "screen" to see if it's recognised, if not, depending on your distro - "apt-get install screen" or "yum install screen" or "emerge screen" [18:36] bbut do screen