[00:00] it was overwhelming [00:00] heh [00:00] :) [00:00] is Dan around? [00:00] I got most of the stuff he wanted [00:00] and stared at a lot more :) [00:00] heh [00:01] I'm not near him at the moment, but I will be in about 20 minutes [00:01] I'm going to hope offline, and head down to the hackerspace. [00:01] *ho[p [00:01] **hop [00:01] phew. [00:01] okay, cool. I need to put some hours in here at work, but I'll start going through everything and getting everything prepped to send out [00:03] Sounds awesome [00:03] bbl [00:07] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:27] fsphil|m (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:219:d2ff:fe09:a6b9) left irc: Quit: kerbang [00:33] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [00:36] Zuph (~bradluyst@69.64.6.70) joined #highaltitude. [00:37] cef (~cef@luv/admin/cef) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:38] stilldavid: Evidently I'm the only White Star member willing to brave 3 inches of snow for our transatlantic dream :-p [00:38] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [00:40] cef (~cef@luv/admin/cef) joined #highaltitude. [00:42] does anyone know if the lassen iq will be stable at just under 3v instead of 3.3? [00:43] i wouldn't try it [00:43] not when you're going to put the whole thing through a temperature stress test, which will probably cause the batteries to lower in capacity [00:43] i was hoping someone wasn't going to say that :/ [00:44] why can't you get 3.3v? [00:44] solution is another battery = another balloon [00:44] its a pico flight, the 1000mah lipo is only giving me 2.95 on the gps [00:45] eek [00:45] yeah i wouldn't try that [00:45] Boost Converter? [00:45] hm possibly, hadnt thought of that [00:48] Sparkfun is a little distant for you, but we've used these with success: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9216 [00:49] ah that's the 1, but thinking it through, the weight of a battery plus the converter .. itll be almost the same as an extra lipo [00:50] Darkside: there? [00:50] yep [00:50] pm? [00:50] yep [00:50] NigeyS: If you want me to weigh that converter real quick, I've got one around here somewhere. [00:51] I'm sure it weighs less than an extra lipo. [00:51] sure, if you dont mind, that would be great [00:51] anything under 4gms i can be ok with [00:53] That converter in particular weighs 1.1g [00:53] wow, alot lighter than i thought, thanks zuph ! [00:53] NigeyS: err - why are you only getting 2.95? You mean starting with a low battery voltage? [00:54] Li-po is quite flat at ~3V [00:54] well the lipo is shoving out bang on 3.7 but after hitting the vreg, and the diode, im getting 2.95 max out of the serial ttl [00:54] why diode? [00:54] james put it on .. so i dont blow things up i think [00:55] and i measured the diode drain, it was minimal, most of the loss is the vreg [00:55] Not in principle insane, but a polarised connector would sort that hastle. [00:55] The diode will be dropping at least 0.3V - even if shottky [00:55] shottky [00:55] well i got .27 max drain [00:55] Action: SpeedEvil can never remember how to spell that [00:56] hehe its late you can be forgiven [00:56] naah. [00:56] I can never spell it anyway. [00:56] :p [00:57] actually scrap that a remeasure shows the lipo pumping out 4.07 [00:57] but still 2.97 on the serial [01:03] Jasperw (~jasperw@93-97-176-250.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[02:30] juxta_ (~blah@120.154.97.29) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:31] the archives were exactly what you'd expect, really. lots of boxes in a sub-basement [02:31] sounds apropos [02:31] I think I got most of the stuff you put in the document, a handful of others, and I kind of want to to go back [02:31] hehe [02:32] there were a bunch of 16mm films of ZP and other launches that I only scratched the surface of [02:32] http://www.flickr.com/photos/stilldavid/5373508823/ [02:32] oh wow [02:32] slothearn (~euclid@71.173.193.103) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:32] wow! [02:32] they were a bit wary of me taking video of the footage, though :( [02:33] aww [02:33] wow dave that's really awesome though [02:33] anyway, I took about 800 photos of various reports and technical docs. [02:33] I'll try to go through them this weekend and get a .tar together to send around [02:33] very very nice [02:34] camera + laptop + tripod was the way to go, for sure [02:34] excellent [02:34] how did the movies look? interesting [02:34] ? [02:34] nice [02:35] Dan-K2VOL, the movies were well-shot, really. from the ones I saw (3?) there was footage of lab tests (like checking for envelope leaks), launches and various tracking equipment [02:35] most of the stuff there was from the late 60s/70s [02:36] a video of a jet engine sucking up an envelope with less-than-spectacular results [02:36] WOW [02:36] Awesome! [02:36] so yeah, I want to go back :) [02:36] We want to go! [02:36] take us with you! [02:36] hahaha [02:36] did I mention I got a tour of the supercomputer? [02:37] lol no [02:37] did you see hurricanes whirling inside of it? [02:37] I forget the number, but they have a Cray something-or-other with lots of flops [02:37] That's a coincidence. [02:37] My laptop is propped up on a flip-flop. [02:38] An IBM Power 575 supercomputer, bluefire houses the new POWER6 microprocessor, which has a clock speed of 4.7 gigahertz. The system consists of 4,064 processors, 12 terabytes of memory, and 150 terabytes of FAStT DS4800 disk storage. [02:39] 76 teraflops [02:47] anyone know what gain this dish would be? http://i.imgur.com/167gt.jpg [02:48] ha, no, but I used to have one just like it [03:59] . [04:27] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) joined #highaltitude. [05:06] TraumaKitteh (~TraumaPon@124-148-59-19.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [05:14] . too [05:16] Dan-K2VOL (~Dan-K2VOL@69.64.6.70) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [05:21] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaBXdbJ0lb8&feature=feedu [05:23] oooh, cool [05:23] did you mke the mount yourself? [05:25] nope [05:26] this was lying around the department :P [05:32] :) [05:41] Zuph (~bradluyst@69.64.6.70) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:24] juxta_ (~blah@110.140.100.127) joined #highaltitude. [06:24] ping shenki, Darkside [06:24] juxta_: hey [06:24] heya [06:24] juxta_: was about to call you [06:24] oh right [06:24] sorry about my no-show yesterday, i got caugh up [06:24] caught up [06:25] no dramas [06:25] cool [06:25] are you at home now? [06:25] no, i'm up in the country [06:25] ok [06:25] but will be heading home soonish [06:25] i was going to ask what the go was tonight [06:26] okay. would it be alright if i swung by to pick up the stuff that mark wants? [06:26] oh, as far as heading into the city? im probably going to have a quiet one, get the packing done [06:26] sure, once i'm home :) [06:28] will give you a ring when i'm in [06:28] probably an hour or so [06:33] hey juxta_ [06:33] up in the country? [06:33] hah [06:33] heya Darkside [06:34] hey juxta_ , i've got a divisional scholarship confirmed :D [06:34] i'm doing a PhD! [06:34] w0000000000t [06:34] nice work! :) [06:38] im about to head off - chat to you some more about it tonight Darkside [06:40] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [06:42] juxta_ (~blah@110.140.100.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [06:44] horm (~horm@ip-134-53-123-129.dhcp.muohio.edu) joined #highaltitude. [06:44] so i herd u liek altitude [06:44] CTCP DCC: SEND irc.tddirc.net 6669 from horm (horm!horm@ip-134-53-123-129.dhcp.muohio.edu) to #highaltitude [06:44] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:45] CTCP DCC: SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 from horm (horm!horm@ip-134-53-123-129.dhcp.muohio.edu) to #highaltitude [06:45] Last message repeated 8 time(s). [06:45] horm (horm@ip-134-53-123-129.dhcp.muohio.edu) left #highaltitude. [06:45] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:45] Michels1 (~Matt@c-69-141-60-42.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [07:05] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:08] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [07:11] ... [07:11] SpikeUK (d0331fa2@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [07:39] hmm.. "You are being CTCP flooded from horm" [07:40] Some sort of DCC request portscan from him here [07:47] morning all [07:48] Michels1 (~Matt@c-69-141-60-42.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:48] mornin eroomde [07:51] all well? [07:51] I've had some fun reading up on HV generation for geiger tubes [07:52] well, bed time :( [07:52] night all [07:53] see you natrium42 [08:00] morning [08:18] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [08:24] sup [08:31] quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak. [08:32] the bus pirate power supply was pretty uninspiring [08:33] You'd hoped it had a unicorn inside? [08:34] i hoped it wouldnt oscillated with 50mv peak to peak [08:34] ah [08:34] *oscillate [08:34] explains why i was getting poor results with accelermoeters [08:35] :) [08:36] http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/01/20/1547205/Fake-GSM-Base-Station-Trick-Targets-IPhones [08:36] never saw that one coming [08:37] nice fancy screen etc but the antenna and GSM implementation sucks [08:37] Umm. [08:37] As I understand it, most phones are vulnerable to that [08:38] if hes using openbts... i though must phones couldnt Tx in the uplink bands? [08:38] It's not running on a phone [08:39] It's running on a basestation that happens to run opensource code. [08:39] using usrp [08:39] ah [08:39] And 'low cost' = 2 grand IIRC [08:39] thought it was the hacked firmware thing [08:43] the USRP is about Ł1100 with the correct parts to transmit on GSM [08:43] someone's been playing around with one in the hackspace [08:43] I think they need other bits [08:58] I'd be afraid to switch it on at that price [09:13] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:18] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [09:42] earthshine (~Mike@cpc3-orpi1-0-0-cust867.2-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:43] earthshine (~Mike@cpc3-orpi1-0-0-cust867.2-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [09:48] Laurenceb_: ping [10:06] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:07] ping shenki [10:14] juxta: hellp [10:14] hello [10:14] heya [10:14] I'm home now, sorry it took a little while :) [10:16] you were recovering another payload? [10:16] Or something else? [10:16] nope, just felling and chopping up a tree [10:16] Ah. [10:17] So you're being a lumberjack. Are you OK? [10:18] yup! [10:26] looks like the winds have settled down here, predictions are staying within 50km [10:26] now if it will just stay that way for another month [10:30] eroomde:pong [11:12] juxta's a lumberjack and he's OK... [11:18] a balloon-enthusiast lumberjack [11:18] he launches by day and he launches by night [11:29] oooh night launch [11:29] someone should do that again [11:29] fsphil: high recommended [11:29] especially to catch dawn [11:29] http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9810 [11:29] finally [11:31] http://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/3740096611/in/set-72157621752577188/lightbox/ [11:36] my notams always say 'in daylight hours' [11:37] that's brilliant [11:39] i think we ignored that bit [11:39] hehe [11:39] yea, they also said 100km range max :) [11:44] actually i'm not sure ours mentioned daylight atall [11:47] NigelMoby (~nigel@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:48] Morning all [11:49] mornin' [11:52] Hey Phil [11:56] I left truetty running overnight, got nothing [11:57] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [11:57] meh [11:58] anyone know what those connectors are called that you find on pc fans? not the molex type, the other type ? [11:59] the polarised ones? [11:59] yeah, theyre normally brown i think [12:00] they's molex too, KK series [12:00] ohh, thankoo phil :D [12:00] SpikeUK (d0331fa2@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:02] http://search.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?pname&site=us&lang=en&wt.mc_id=Dxn_US_US2010_Catlink&name=WM4201-ND [12:02] thats the 1 i think [12:04] wtf 100quid for the crimp tool :| [12:09] you can get it much cheaper elsewhere [12:09] mine cost 15 I think [12:09] from ebay [12:11] phew, think the 1 on digikey must be made of gold! [12:13] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120672520397 [12:13] now thats more like it, a sensible figure lol [12:21] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. 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[12:43] 1/sqrt(shizzle) [12:43] matches the datasheet how ive got a good power supply [12:43] ~400ug/sqrt(Hz) [12:44] on x and y, and 550 to 600 on z [12:44] ambient vibrations are hard to filter out [12:44] my pc fan in causing some noise [12:45] its still a rather poor sensor - the best digital offerings from ST are 200ug [12:46] ill try some motion integration soon as i find a decent way to mount it [12:47] TraumaPony (~TraumaPon@124-148-44-197.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [12:47] hmm i need to get a 2g accelerometer to do elevation detection on my tracking dish [12:47] Laurenceb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaBXdbJ0lb8&feature=feedu [12:48] eeek arduino [12:48] Darkside: You shouldn't be wiggling it that fast. [12:48] but yeah looks good [12:48] it'll work [12:48] SpeedEvil: i know :P [12:48] whats it powered by? [12:48] 12v battery [12:48] i'm using some stepper drivers [12:49] ah [12:49] the arduino just sends the direction and step bits, everything else is controlled by the stepper drivers [12:49] perseus (perseus@SDF.ORG) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:49] so i can do microstepping and such [12:50] the arduino is just there as its easy to interface with and do prototyping / testing [12:51] FAA to pilots: Expect 'unreliable or unavailable' GPS signals. [12:52] saw that [12:52] hm wonder what theyre testing exactly [12:52] looks interesting [12:52] enemy gps disruptor maybe? .. *shrug* [12:52] NigeyS: I vaguely recall the diameter stated in the NOTAM is approximately the same as the 'spot beam' [12:53] NigeyS: This is a high power - comparatively - dish that can - at least - send high power M-code to an area of operations. [12:53] ahh yes it looks like it [12:53] its been updated for california to .. [12:54] The shape of the NOTAM would be more or less consistent I think with them pointing the spot beam at one point on the earth, and meaconing from it. [12:54] i wonder how badly it will affect ground signals [12:55] interesting stuff [12:55] wonder if its anything to do with that new satellite they put up not so long ago aswell. [12:56] Darkside: It has a 250nm radius at 4000 feet - so I assume that's practically the radius on the ground [12:56] yeah [12:56] interesting [12:56] A fun fact is that the internet makes many of the 'conventional' ways of degrading GPS useless. [12:56] no mobile phone gps, people will be lost, taxi drivers will have to use a MAP and compass..lol [12:57] Or useless to a skilled opponent with a small differential GPS in the area, and internet connectivity to it [12:58] The conventional ways just introduce an error into the orbital position reports. But if you isupply your own orbital models, and models of how the clock is vaying at a given time, you can correct for simple orbit or clock wander approaches [12:58] Also - nonconventional. [12:58] Google, bing, et al now have ~1m imagery of many parts of the world. [12:59] This is quite good enough to accurately locate yourself, if you're a missile. [13:00] scary thought though [13:00] using google earth / maps to aim a missile :| [13:03] In late December, the agency’s Space Operations Mission Directorate requested the shuttle and International Space Station programs take the necessary steps to maintain the capability to fly Atlantis on the STS-135 mission. [13:03] yey! [13:04] Fuck [13:04] oh [13:04] not that bad [13:04] I leapt to the conclusion they were keeping shuttle flying. [13:04] haha if only, be a shame to see the shuttle go :( [13:05] In principle, in some ways yes. [13:05] In practice - shuttle is a hideous waste of cash that's basically only useful for pork. [13:06] yeah i guess, but if is probably the best feat of engineering in history so far [13:06] it* [13:07] i see nanosail status is updated, sband is on [13:08] The shuttle was the best feat of fucked up politics. [13:08] The whole design was basically driven around a wacky requirement to get support from the DOD. [13:08] unfortunately wherever congress gets a say in the budget its always going to be political :/ [13:09] That is - to launch a satellite into polar orbit, from a USA landing strip, and recover inside the USA without making more than one orbit. [13:09] This is what meant it had big wings. [13:09] that idea soon went out the window [13:10] Yes. [13:10] wonder when we'll eventually move on from liquid fuel to .. has to be a long way away still :( [13:11] Liquid fuel isn't the problem. [13:11] You can arguably get an order of magnitude cost reduction below what spaceX are projecting with liquid fuel. [13:12] i disagree, liquid fuel is .. well .. heavy .. [13:13] HOTOL :) [13:13] http://authors.library.caltech.edu/3303/1/PARaipcp04a.pdf [13:13] Is in principle another alternative. [13:13] Electric rockets. [13:14] ooo im gonna read that with a title like that! [13:14] Boosted by _large_ 100-300GHz transmitters on earth [13:14] get to 50000 feet using lots of balloons :) [13:14] Also - another interesting aspect. [13:14] The same technology can power airliners. [13:15] lol upu good plan ! [13:15] SpeedEvil, as in regular commercial flight ? [13:15] NigeyS: Yes. You do need a regrettably large number of ground stations. But it's not really implausible. [13:15] At least for intracontinental flight. [13:16] hmm i guess, or we can just find a kill switch for gravity? :D [13:16] That would be nice. [13:17] yeah, escape velocity.. no problem, just kick me in the nads and off i go to space..lol [13:17] I note that at this time, nobody has actually tested that antimatter falls down. [13:17] you mentioned that the other day, can that actually be tested? [13:18] concidering the fact theyve only got 38atoms of the stuff for a few seconds [13:21] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [13:21] not yet. [13:21] It's actually really hard to test. [13:22] Because gravity is such a teeny force, compared to all the other disturbing forces. [13:23] yeah compared to the electromagnetic force gravity is kinda puny [13:25] im going to have to get a notams for this pico flight, extra battery = extra large balloon :( above the 2m limit [13:25] :/ [13:26] unless my gps will run on 2.7v which is highly unlikely [13:27] I'd say make sure you've got it connected right, then jumper the diode [13:28] i probably will, ordered another batt and the ftdi stuff so can get a better idea on what will and wont work tomorrow [13:28] :) [13:32] a single foil balloon might work better than the multiples, and still fit into the 2m exception rules [13:34] oh speaking of which guys [13:34] can you get spherical foil balloons [13:34] some radar guys at uni want a radar target they can put up on a tether [13:39] Darkside - Unlikely! Foil is made flat. Could make out of panels but it would be a sod to seal I should thing. [13:40] s/thing/think [13:40] yeah [13:40] damn [13:40] might have to hoist up some kind of frame structure [13:40] I have pondered a foil balloon. [13:40] And done some tests. [13:41] Hot-melt lap-joints work wonderfully [13:41] Are they looking for a reflective sphere? [13:41] with the barest smear of hot-melt, and the joint ironed shut. [13:41] SpeedEvil - ok [13:42] Though I suspect it may have issues at -40C - though it seemed fine at -20c [13:42] so maybe not [13:44] SpikeUK: yes [13:44] needs to be a sphere, as a corner reflecter is quite angle-dependent [13:45] A sphere sphere, or a lumpy sphere [13:46] you can get fairly spherical mylar balloons [13:46] yeeeeeah [13:46] I'm very unsure how radar reflective those woul dbe [13:46] a sphere sphere would be nice [13:46] we have a fibreglass target, which is a 1% sphere i think [13:46] whatever the measure it, it's good [13:46] but its too heavy, and too small [13:49] What frequency of radar? [13:52] Beachball + http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40-Gold-Leaf-Design-Gliding-Art-UK-SELLER-/190492394744?pt=UK_Crafts_Other_Crafts_EH&hash=item2c5a3b44f8 [13:52] hahahahaha [13:52] bigger then a beachball i think [13:53] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PAGEOS_Satellite_-_GPN-2000-001896.jpg [13:54] do want [13:54] jkominar (~justin@64.235.97.218) joined #highaltitude. [13:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Echo [13:57] yeah, i want one [14:05] fsphil, i cant find a single foil balloon larger than 36" [14:07] Michels1 (~Matt@c-69-141-60-42.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:10] aha [14:10] i have position solutions working [14:10] its actually very hard, slight wobbling screws up the result a lot [14:11] What's the static drift like? [14:11] http://i.imgur.com/KLkQ8.png [14:11] very low - its wobbling of the cardboard box im taped it too that causes the issue [14:12] you tried to sign your name? :p [14:12] I mean if you actually nail it to a table [14:13] gluing it to a plate might work [14:15] In 1966, a GHOST balloon circled the Earth in 10 days at 42,000 feet [14:15] nicey [14:16] CNES did 86 days with a MIR [14:17] :o [14:35] http://ballonsolaire.pagesperso-orange.fr/en-historique3.htm [14:37] http://ballons.cnes.fr:8180/html/mir/resmi_gb.htm [14:37] actually 'only' 69 days [14:38] http://ballons.cnes.fr:8180/index2.html [14:38] interesting, lots of flash tho [14:39] aha http://ballons.cnes.fr:8180/html/ <-looks more usable :P [14:40] tnx laurenceb :D [14:41] http://ballons.cnes.fr:8180/images/photo/p7.jpg [14:42] Action: eroomde is having an extraordinarily interesting time learning about thunderstorms [14:43] they make you wet ! [14:43] hm there was another delta 4 launch yesterday for the NRO [14:44] http://ballons.cnes.fr:8180/html/vehic.htm < good theory explanation [14:49] Michels1 (~Matt@c-69-141-60-42.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:49] stormhair (d99a9902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.154.153.2) joined #highaltitude. [15:00] stormhair_ (~stormhair@217.154.153.2) joined #highaltitude. [15:00] stormhair (d99a9902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.154.153.2) left irc: Quit: Page closed [15:00] Nick change: stormhair_ -> stormhair [15:09] GeekShad0w (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [15:12] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [15:13] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) joined #highaltitude. [15:20] duke4 has a release date.. isn't this one of the signs of the end of the world? [15:22] yups, we're all doomed [15:23] Oh snap. [15:25] hey StrayVoltage [15:26] laurence_ (~laurence@host86-130-229-52.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:30] Laurenceb_ (~laurence@host86-130-229-52.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:48] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/spikeuk) joined #highaltitude. [15:54] http://i.imgur.com/ks0hF.png [15:54] fixing accel to a plate helps [15:56]