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[07:36] sbasuita_ (ssb@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-djgonxazglfqvdlk) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [07:40] slothearn (~euclid@pool-96-249-157-79.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:48] DagoRed (~dago@207-172-35-190.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Quit: shut eye time [07:52] sbasuita (ssb@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-mftfbdboxaacgyvi) joined #highaltitude. [07:58] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [08:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8 [08:00] Action: StrayVol1age wants a suspension setup like that on his car. [08:06] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176112254.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [08:15] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-155-29-244.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:19] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:20] yay gpsbee back in stock [08:21] Action: m1x10 got lock inside his house with gpsbee's tiny antenna [08:21] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) joined #highaltitude. [08:22] robint91 (~robint91@78-21-248-218.access.telenet.be) joined #highaltitude. [08:25] good work m1x10 [08:25] they are good modules [08:25] yes they seem to [08:25] which modules [08:26] robint91: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/gps-bee-50-channel-ublox-5-p-560.html [08:26] ah [08:28] robint91: in yesterday's schematic you wired the breakout with the i2c. right? [08:28] yes [08:29] do u know the wifly library? [08:30] I know what a wifly is [08:31] yes [08:31] but the library [08:31] not [08:31] the wifly also does need sometimes that converter breakout [08:31] so the library makes added to the main wifly lib [08:31] a spi2uart lib [08:32] but they dont have an i2c2uart lib :( [08:33] someone on #sparkfun has tested it with i2c [08:34] check your mail, ive sent you the wifly lib [08:37] m1x10 I don't know the exact I2C commands work in arduino [08:37] but in spiUart.cpp [08:38] the function on line 126 and on line 139 needs to be changed [08:38] why? [08:38] the select and transfer and deselect are the spi commands [08:38] you need to change that into i2c commands [08:39] see, there's no actual support for the i2c [08:40] http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Learning/I2C [08:41] I have used i2c with the pressure sensor [08:41] I can just use it in the same manner to read the rx/tx of the gps? [08:42] yes I think so [08:42] -think so- [08:42] :P [08:45] jcoxon (~jcoxon@host81-155-29-244.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:47] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Network is unreachable [08:47] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [08:52] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:54] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [08:54] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:55] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [09:58] who knows a bit about a gyroscope? [09:59] I have this: http://wiring.org.co/learning/basics/gyrolisy300al.html [09:59] it outputs all the time: 347 or 348 [10:05] m1x10: you might want to try ##electronics or #sparkfun ;) [10:06] yes ure [10:06] sure* [11:15] hmm [11:16] according to the datasheet that gyro outputs 1.65v when its not moving [11:16] calling this feature zero-rate level [11:39] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] yay, above zero temperatures [12:13] lol [12:13] here +12 [12:14] ooh would be nice :) [12:14] +2 here, but all the snow is melting [12:15] melting snow makes life worse [12:16] there's been a few small avalanches of the roof [12:18] haha [12:52] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [14:28] firefox is so broken its unreal [14:28] its loading pages <50% of the time now [14:29] no probs here, only have issues with java [14:29] i have to keep refreshing pages [14:50] is there any reason why I might not be receiving anything on HF at the moment? just getting noise [14:50] the antenna seems fine [14:52] gb73d (gb73d@79-79-179-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined #highaltitude. [15:13] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:23] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) joined #highaltitude. [15:25] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [15:26] the black hole at CERN? [15:31] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:44] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [15:51] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:04] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) joined #highaltitude. [16:09] where is everybody! [16:09] bring some noise [16:27] bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [16:31] thats a buzzer? [16:31] a thing that buzzes [16:35] Action: fsphil wonders if the snow melting is affecting the hf vertical -- the snow might have been my ground plane [16:40] snow antenna [16:59] Upu (~Upu@ubn.upuaut.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:59] Upu (~Upu@ubn.upuaut.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:03] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [17:05] evening [17:05] Hi [17:08] ping fsphil [17:09] Lunar_Lander (~lunar_lan@p54A06DF2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:09] hello [17:10] pong jcoxon [17:10] yeah the freq works on my linux box [17:10] ill get it to read off the radio as well [17:11] good job [17:11] can you add the mode selector too? [17:11] hi fsphil and jcoxon [17:11] darknesslord_ (~darknessl@189.164.8.116) joined #highaltitude. [17:11] evening Lunar_Lander :) [17:11] yeah how shall we do that? we are running out of screen real estate [17:12] how are you? [17:12] hehe, squeeze it in beside the frequency box -- the string line should still be big enough [17:20] Hi Lunar_Lander [17:20] fffff food again [17:20] cant eat anymore [17:20] hehe, know the feeling [17:20] my teeth are going to fall from the sugar [17:20] hi m1x10 [17:21] hi moona_lander [17:21] :p [17:22] http://server2.tigerinnovations.com/homepage/index.php [17:23] cool [17:27] yea, we could acquire some useful ideas-knowledge from there [17:27] yeah [17:36] mhhh [17:37] I cant find someone to go and drink some beers [17:38] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) left irc: [17:38] oh [17:39] yay - android 2.2 on my wildfire - i got tethering [17:39] sweet [17:39] recommend android? [17:39] hmmmm i've been using it for a while [17:39] not completely happy with the htc sense interface [17:40] have you tried any development on it? [17:40] i had a play for a few hours [17:46] bbl [17:46] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:50] http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/drought/figures/snow/inhofeigloo2.jpg [17:54] xD [17:55] whats this about? [17:58] more people confusing weather with climate :) [17:58] I cant read he sign [18:00] Action: m1x10 does not believe in the existance of santa clause neither he likes that custom [18:00] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [18:01] its still funny [18:04] fffffff [18:04] No one to go and drink something [18:04] Woo! Finall positive here. [18:04] +0.6C [18:04] yay :) [18:04] wow relax! its 11C here :p [18:04] we've been >0 most of the day, more slush than snow now [18:05] It's supposed to be sluching/raining for the next 24 hours, but not delivered yet [18:06] pouncing here, should arrive with you shortly :) [18:06] I forgot where you are fsphil. [18:06] n.ireland [18:07] ah. [18:07] Right - I knew that. [18:07] :) [18:17] ooh, forecast is for 9c by the end of next week [18:29] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176112254.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [18:30] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:38] http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.sprd2.gif [18:38] ^ thats interesting - gives some idea as to model accuracy [18:38] vrs time [18:40] the correlation coefficient vrs time [18:45] hmm [18:56] bradluyster (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) joined #highaltitude. [19:04] Laurenceb_: hmm, doesn't ECMWF have that data too? [19:04] yes, but not avaliable for free [19:05] aaah OK - I knew they had some freebies [19:06] (the I used to use the MSLP / winspeed one for sailing [19:06] s/^the//) [19:07] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:00] robint91 (~robint91@78-21-248-218.access.telenet.be) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish! [20:02] aaah it's so slippy outside -- sooner that slush melts the better [20:07] yeah [20:21] Laurenceb_: I swear the met office used to provide their forecast validation data but it doesn't seem like they do any more. [20:21] and doesn't come back until at least after I've launched my balloon :) [20:34] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #highaltitude. [20:34] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:40] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176112254.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [20:41] back from the movie 'Solomon Kane' [20:41] ! [20:41] yay [20:41] how was it? [20:41] :p [20:41] ehm [20:41] not better than Alien I :p [20:42] Alien I is my point of reference :p [20:42] xD [20:42] Then its Predator I [20:42] yeah [20:42] with Arlond in the jungle [20:42] good movies [20:42] best movie ever [20:43] I liked aliens too [20:43] i still have it in casette [20:43] I also know the intro song playing in Predator I [20:43] in the helicopter [20:43] "dum dum dum de dum dum".... [20:44] Long tall sally [20:44] oh the song they played in the helicopter? [20:45] do they dub movies like that in greece? [20:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lPl5CRW7jg [20:45] watch and feel [20:45] yep, that's the helicopter song :) [20:46] hehe [20:46] what do u mean dub? [20:47] I watched a video about a teenager who got a shock from the overhead line when he climbed on a rail car [20:47] get greek actors to do the voices [20:47] and some idiot wrote a commment [20:47] "OMG That happened to a friend of mine, he got a shock of 18000 watts!" [20:47] fsphil: no voices [20:47] we have subtitles [20:47] ah [20:48] voices are the original ones [20:48] I prefer subtitles, dubbing sometimes can be really bad [20:48] I will stop watching movies in they do such a thing [20:48] Terminator - Asta la vista babe. [20:48] You cant hear this in another lang [20:49] a lot of japanese movies got really bad dubs -- like Godzilla [20:49] its a shame [20:49] the voices didn't match the words :) [20:49] e yes [20:49] actually [20:49] in the Spanish version of T2, he says "Sayonara" [20:49] and thats not the only bad [20:49] same actors must say specific words [20:50] I cant hea a jap saying asta la vista babe [20:50] Lunar_Lander, I heard on TV that they didn't let arnie do the german dub -- because his accent sounds like a farmer [20:50] lol [20:50] haha [20:50] Little richard [20:50] great guy [20:50] I watched a video about a teenager who got a shock from the overhead line when he climbed on a rail car [20:51] and some idiot wrote a commment [20:51] "OMG That happened to a friend of mine, he got a shock of 18000 watts!" [20:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdQnlapI4ls&feature=related [20:51] Lunar_Lander lol [20:52] do you wanna hear the excuse of that boy with the rail car? [20:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpamPcfEH4&feature=related [20:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF0pZwFHKE&feature=related - Predator best scene [20:54] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:54] "We thought there are no overhead wires, we thought the current is on the rails" [21:06] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [21:07] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:09] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:13] anyone got a source of small polystyrene boxes? [21:13] like super small [21:13] say 10cm x 10cm x 10cm [21:16] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:17] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:19] do you need it for a small payload? [21:19] yes [21:19] yeah [21:19] I don't know a source either [21:19] it is like the hardest job to find PS boxes [21:19] 1/ Can make 'em 2/ I'll speak to wife she gets vaccines in them [21:20] Upu, i've done my days of making them [21:20] :-) [21:20] I quite enjoy it was modifying mine this afternoon [21:21] no camera payload I guess ? [21:21] nah [21:21] i haven't launched a camera in a long time... [21:21] i might try my hospital path lab [21:21] they should have loads [21:21] have you tested your heater yet ? [21:22] my crystal heater - yes [21:22] last fligh [21:22] t [21:22] did it work ? [21:22] http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/missions:atlas:atlas1#temperature_vs_time [21:22] blue line is crystal temp [21:23] did it stop the frequency drift though ? [21:23] it reduced it [21:23] so worth doing then [21:24] and i reckon with even better insulation it would stop it [21:24] depends on your flight really [21:24] on a normal flight its not that important [21:24] jcoxon: -60C ! [21:24] omg [21:24] ooo Top gear is on iPlayer [21:24] -55 - teh sensor doesn't go lower then that [21:24] ttly :) [21:24] i'll be back later as well [21:25] and internal temp -20C [21:25] good [21:28] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:30] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:35] lol you know LaTeX right? [21:35] that writing program [21:35] yep [21:35] but forgot it [21:36] yeah I use it to write the balloon report [21:36] and I made it to call the Preface "Chapter 0" [21:36] :P [21:47] gb73d (gb73d@79-79-179-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Quit: Whoosh we're gone [21:48] i do latex [21:48] yeah [21:49] it is amazing, isn't it? [21:49] its kind of perfect in every way :P [21:49] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:50] http://www.ukhas.org.uk/_media/projects:report_v4.pdf [21:50] is that the report on the electrostatic dust collector? [21:51] yes - i did that in latex [21:51] yeah [21:51] I saw that immediately :) [21:54] btw for the indices [21:54] I found that you can have them in non-italics when you do thi [21:54] *this [21:55] \text{This text is normal} [22:01] Kevin Glinka is on facebook :) [22:02] yeah ;) I know [22:03] hehe [22:05] did you know that trick with \text{} Laurenceb [22:05] * Laurenceb_ [22:05] oh was afk [22:05] np :) [22:05] interesting thanks [22:06] yeah you're welcome [22:06] shipit (~sumeet@adsl-76-194-112-188.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:06] i found the savetrees stylesheet from CUED was helpful [22:06] btw do you have it that you read "shipit" as "shitit"? [22:06] :P [22:06] where is that Laurenceb_ ? [22:08] lol I created a stupid face on my pcb [22:09] hmm maybe its not actually from cued... it was on their latex tutorial somewhere, just as sec [22:10] http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/ [22:10] Lunar_Lander: http://imagebin.org/129670 [22:10] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/savetrees/savetrees.pdf [22:10] i think its included or something [22:11] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/savetrees/ [22:12] LOL m1x10 [22:13] thanks Laurenceb_ [22:14] :p [22:15] I heard the following in one of the PC rooms at uni [22:15] "and then he told me, he latexed the text, and I didn't know what he meant, I just thought "latexing" means that you write something down very carefully" [22:16] :) [22:18] Lunar_Lander: I posted it to my profile. Check it out ! :p [22:18] juxta (juxta@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:18] Hello juxta [22:18] hi m1x10 [22:19] how are you? have a good Christmas? [22:20] http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/12/26/2126224/IBM-Projects-Holographic-Phones-Air-Driven-Batteries#commentlisting [22:20] "Cities heated by servers" <- lmao [22:20] yeah, my stomach is full of meat and my teeth almost ready to fall from the chocolate sugar :) [22:20] How r u in that far place? [22:21] How are my Kangaroos ? [22:21] :p [22:21] your FB profile m1x10 ? [22:21] Lunar_Lander YEA [22:22] I am there [22:22] where to go? [22:23] You dont see it? [22:23] Maybe cause i have the album private. Wait [22:24] done [22:25] cool [22:25] I can see Thessaliniki [22:25] *thessaloniki [22:25] :P [22:26] where? [22:26] Thessalonike it is :) but where [22:26] on the last pictures? [22:26] aa [22:26] http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=2067782&id=1377549819 [22:26] thats Olympus [22:26] cool [22:27] im depicting the mountain. Not the city :p [22:27] yeah [22:27] on the powershot photo [22:27] aaa, you mean the little pics with the buildings? [22:27] yeah [22:27] yeah yeah [22:27] sorry [22:28] yes [22:28] on the powershot photo, what are these tanks on the roof? [22:28] but that is just my neighboorhood [22:28] water for heating? [22:28] yeah [22:28] yes [22:28] cool [22:28] and behind the cloud the top of olympus [22:28] and you made a 0.3 MP cam?! [22:28] cool! [22:28] yeah [22:29] yes that small pics are from the 0.3mp cam [22:29] nice [22:29] how did you make that one? [22:30] bradluyster (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:30] buy the module from sparkfun [22:30] connect it to a microSD [22:30] I give you the protocol in code [22:31] and u r ready :) [22:32] How do u find the pictures? [22:32] the 0.3? [22:32] the're cool [22:33] especially the sun breaking through the clouds :P [22:33] mhh [22:33] I wonder how earth will look [22:33] if i ever manage to fly a HAB :( [22:34] can you give me a link to the sparkfun module? [22:34] sure [22:34] thanks [22:34] http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10061 [22:35] its kinda xpensive [22:35] I bought it from the actual makers 38$ [22:36] thanks :) [22:36] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:38] np [22:39] Laurenceb_ if I got it right, the dust collector never flew, right? [22:39] unfortunately not no [22:39] i graduated lol [22:39] xD [22:39] but you still have the equipment? [22:39] university has [22:40] oh OK [22:41] unless they cannibalised it for the NGW100 [22:41] NGW100? [22:44] wifi router [22:44] err [22:44] no - AVR32 based dev platform [22:46] oh man, so this laser microscope thing [22:46] http://teravolt.org/Laser_Microscope.htm [22:46] I was like "hey, I have a laser" [22:47] so dropped some mineral water into its lid, picked up a drop on the back of a plastic pen, held it in front of the laser [22:47] and shat brix, there are little bacteria swimming around [22:47] it's great [22:47] instant microscope [22:47] oh [22:47] I thought it went book [22:47] boom [22:47] xD [22:48] kinda wish I knew the scale I was looking at [22:48] yeah [22:48] (btw, sorry for the kidding ;)) [22:49] awesome [22:49] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:50] how much is the microscope? [22:50] There is no microscope [22:50] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:50] I mean the laser device [22:50] it's a drop of water, and a laser [22:50] yea [22:50] $3ish from dealextreme.com [22:51] I got a green 50mW module for $20 IIRC [22:51] works well [22:51] does any laser do? [22:51] Randomskk, so that works? I never got around to trying it [22:51] fsphil: yea! I was really surprised [22:51] fantastic [22:51] but literally I just took my laser in my hand, a drop of water suspended on the first piece of plastic I found (a pen) and shone it through [22:51] instantly on the wall an awesome display [22:52] Action: fsphil gets a pen ... :) [22:52] really awesome though. it's fascinating. wonder where my camera is [22:53] wonder what else to try it on, too [22:53] I think you must be seeing a reflection, in order to get a focussed image [22:54] want a photo? [22:54] hmm.. I can't form a drop [22:54] I don't know a huge amount about optics or microscopes [22:54] fsphil: what I did was [22:54] something with tails that swim, diluted? [22:54] SpeedEvil: assuming you're thinking what I'm thinking [22:54] I want to find something else first [22:54] fsphil: take a pen with a clicky back [22:54] then use the top of the pen and just dip it in some water [22:54] ooh yes [22:54] anyone got an idea why this works? [22:54] or a straw [22:55] Waters refractive index is not high enough to form a focal plane inside the drop [22:55] fsphil: that'd work [22:55] SpeedEvil: could it reflect off the edge of the drop? [22:55] So I'd guess what you are seeing is a reflected image off the drop side [22:55] yes [22:55] SpeedEvil: the website there says he's seeing paramecia, which are apparently 50 to 350µm [22:55] readily available things with tails that swim are approx 3 to 5µm wide and 45µm long [22:56] so possibly too small [22:56] admittedly I don't know what geometric property is going to be controlling the scale [22:56] possibly a larger or smaller drop would have a significant effect [22:56] holy crap it works! [22:56] :D [22:56] how cool is that [22:56] not much swimming about [22:57] but definitely a few things [22:57] I had things moving in what would appear to be non-uniform-flow directions but I can't be sure [22:57] I wonder if it's bright enough to video it [22:57] probably. turn the room lights off [22:57] I've got a lot of long strand things [22:57] wish I had a video cam [22:57] they don't move [22:57] hmmm, my sister's dslr does video [22:57] yea gonna video it too :) [22:58] I only really had roughly circular things with dark patches in the inside [22:58] gnite all ! [22:58] eyes closing! [22:58] Night! [22:58] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176112254.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [23:02] tricky keeping it steady [23:02] I've nothing to hold the laser [23:03] Cheese makes a good optical mount. [23:03] lol [23:03] lol [23:06] hmpf.. my cunning plans are not working [23:08] :D I can get some sweet wall displays [23:08] need to find something else to put under the microscope besides whatever little things are in my water bottle though [23:08] hmm [23:09] Get on a plane and go to africa, where it's nice and sunny, and pick some water up from a stagnant puddle. [23:10] hah [23:10] eeu [23:11] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude. [23:13] right, it's a bit blue-peter but the laser is now permanent on [23:13] hehe [23:13] my laser gets quite warm when left perma-on [23:13] wondering what will happen if I current limit it [23:16] Generally, applying a lower voltage works well [23:19] it seems to just turn off [23:20] Laurenceb_ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:20] laurence_ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:20] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [23:21] i was looking at the kinect teardown - they mount the IR laser on a peltier [23:22] any luck? [23:23] properly mounted now, but just getting the circle things -- none of the big long things like before [23:24] the drop geometry seems to have a massive effect [23:24] I suspect it might change what part of the drop is for whatever reason in focus, or what scale it's operating on, or any number of things [23:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewWhc2gw6rg hah [23:27] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:27] natrium42 (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:29] looks like its pulsing [23:29] something to do with the compression [23:29] o/ [23:29] apparently he was using a large droplet and undiluted samples so didn't resolve cells [23:29] Action: Laurenceb_ notices the comment [23:30] apparently a smaller droplet could lead to resolving individual cells better [23:30] O_o [23:30] Bonjour la urenceb [23:30] easily acquirable :S [23:30] hi natrium42 [23:30] aber hallo [23:31] yay [23:31] well done :) [23:31] dude, i am fluent in german [23:31] :P [23:32] :P [23:33] definitely nothing living, but still cool: http://imgur.com/EfOBK.jpg [23:33] how is hardware progressing, Lunar_Lander? [23:33] fsphil, ooh, are you doing the laser microscope thing? [23:33] yea! [23:33] i wanted to try it too [23:33] what laser are you using? [23:33] 50mw green laser [23:34] I need some outside water [23:34] neat, i have a 30mW one [23:34] now whenever i see "bacteria" ill start wondering [23:34] one moment please natrium42 [23:34] is that a flagella motor in your pocket or... [23:35] lol [23:37] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:41] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [23:45] got some water from the bottom of a plant pot -- still nothing swimming about [23:46] natrium42 ? [23:46] yo [23:46] the radio system is under construction at the moment [23:46] the science data recorder is on hold and will be continued during January [23:50] it's alive!!! http://imgur.com/F4MgW.jpg [23:50] well, sorta [23:50] :) [23:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3di1Btb6LbA [23:53] yay [23:54] natrium42 further questions please :) [23:55] do extraterrestrials live among us? [23:56] good questiond [23:56] -d [23:56] I don't know [23:57] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:57] whats the meaning of life the universe and everything? [23:59] 42 [23:59] no [23:59] natrium42 [00:00] --- Mon Dec 27 2010