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[08:17] DagoRed (~dago@207-172-35-190.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Quit: sleep [08:54] Laurence_ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:54] avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of atmega644p/ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex [08:54] avrdude: write to file 'atmega644p/ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex' failed [08:55] Help ! [09:05] Check my screen: http://imagebin.org/129201 [09:31] zeusbot joined #highaltitude. [09:47] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:47] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) joined #highaltitude. [10:00] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-96.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:16] might be easiest to ask the developers what the error means [10:20] Hi fsphil [10:20] morning :) [10:20] still fighting :) [10:20] you'll get there [10:20] If i use the original bootloader (.hex) it gets uploaded fine. [10:21] if i compile the source with winavr c compiler [10:21] wouldn't be the first time I've banged my head against a wall, only to find a single but seriously obscure command fixes it instantly (windows server 2003 ntp sync .. evil evil) [10:21] the new .hex is 1kb larger and fails to upload [10:21] hmm [10:21] I believe the compiler does something odd [10:22] gcc 4.3.3 [10:22] the compiler will have a huge amount of options, levels of optimisation, that sort of thing - you'd need to find out what options they used to build the one that works [10:23] although all that should be in the makefile [10:23] I know the options. I have the makefile ! [10:24] I only wonder with what compiler were the sources built [10:24] gcc 3.x.x or gcc 4.x.x [10:24] yea, that can make a difference sometimes [10:25] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [10:25] the original hex could be compiled with gcc3 [10:25] while im compiling it with gcc4 [10:25] the version I did was with gcc 4.5.1 [10:25] you took the sanguino sources and compiled them with gcc4.5.1? [10:25] still, it should still flash even if the compile was different [10:27] the problem might be avrdude [10:29] any other way to upload? [10:30] someone at sparkfun told me a similar issue where avrdude failed while avrstudio did it [10:30] i have avrstudio [10:30] try putting an :i after the hex file, or example: -U flash:w:rom.hex:i [10:30] or=for [10:31] but i dont know how to use it [10:31] ok, wait [10:32] I just do -U flash:w:file [10:32] is that wrong? [10:32] I'm not sure, I see the :i in a few places [10:32] I think it tells avrdude what format the hex file is [10:32] intel format I think [10:32] avrdude recognises it as intel [10:32] automatically [10:33] ah, then that won't help [10:35] can u compile for me the source ? [10:35] using the new crystal freq [10:35] ? [10:38] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [10:52] slothearn (~euclid@pool-96-249-157-79.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:59] MoALTz (~no@92.8.25.126) joined #highaltitude. [11:02] ping SpeedEvil ! [11:02] MoALTz_ (~no@92.8.25.126) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:03] I did -- that was the link I sent you yesterday [11:05] ah [11:05] can u post it again [11:05] i though thats sanslogic is some big company:p [11:05] thought* [11:06] ok got it [11:07] nah, my little website ;) [11:08] haha [11:08] the name is tricky [11:08] anyway..still nothing [11:08] the hex file is exactly as mines [11:09] avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex [11:10] do u know how to upload it using avrstudio? [11:10] avrstudio doesnt seem to find the usbtiny [11:10] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) joined #highaltitude. [11:14] I've never used avrstudio [11:15] don't have windows [11:16] :p [11:25] bye all. Coffee time! [11:25] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176102117.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [12:24] GeekShadow (~Antoine@93.21.159.10) joined #highaltitude. [12:24] GeekShadow (~Antoine@93.21.159.10) left irc: Changing host [12:24] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [12:45] This is me signing off from work for the last time this year. Have a good Christmas all. [12:47] you too GW8RAK! [12:51] Just needed to move a few bits of paper around then found all the little jobs which I'd promised to do before the break. Oh well, I'll come in next week for a bit. :( [12:51] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [12:52] That's it, I'm off. Have fun. [12:52] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-96.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] [12:58] KB9UJV (~Christoph@206-221-147-30.ip.ctc.biz) joined #highaltitude. [13:01] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude. [13:45] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:46] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [14:58] smea (~smealum@82.243.132.64) left irc: [15:07] Action: Laurenceb is having annoying oscillation issues with his active ant again [15:08] seems with my lab power supply theres some rf leaking out of the supply box [15:08] hopefully the sheilding is better once i get the sdr supply done :S [15:10] watch-batteries FTW [15:18] heh one option [15:19] I found a _huge_ pile of trashed PDA prototypes, and stripped the 2032 batteries from them. [15:19] I stacked them up neatly, and wrapped them in tape, to store. [15:19] After getting a 300VDC shock, I started alternating polarity [15:29] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp046176102117.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:32] stilldave (~dave@c-67-190-101-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: stilldave [15:39] Hi [15:39] who can help me with usbtiny and avrstudio ? [15:39] avrdude does not want to upload the bootloader through usbtiny [15:40] Umm... [15:40] ##avr? [15:40] I forget [15:41] what is ##avr? [15:41] A channel about AVRs [15:41] oh k [15:41] ok [15:51] juxta (juxta@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [15:51] well [15:51] Also - have you checked ##electronics [15:51] some may have a clue there [15:51] C:\atmega644p>avrdude -p m644p -c usbtiny -U flash:w:ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex [15:51] avrdude: ERROR: address 0x10010 out of range at line 130 of ATmegaBOOT_644P.hex [15:52] 0x10010 = 65552 [15:52] atmega644p has only 64k of flash [15:52] No clue, sorry [15:52] other than you should check the hex file is correct manually [15:52] if it isn't - fix it [15:53] what to know if its correct? [15:53] Work out the ranges it should have [15:57] hellafox (~Christoph@206-221-147-30.ip.ctc.biz) joined #highaltitude. [15:59] KB9UJV (~Christoph@206-221-147-30.ip.ctc.biz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:07] Nick change: stilldavid -> Divadllits [16:09] Ok, Solved [16:12] :) [16:13] cant get it to stop oscillating :( [16:14] I reduced --section-start=.text=0xF800 [16:14] to 0xF400 [16:15] gave a few bytes space for the bootloader space in the mcu [16:15] Divadllits: welcome to the cool kid's club [16:15] you'd fit right in in #sparkfun right now :) [16:16] just some IRC shenanigans. [16:16] Divadllits, sounds welsh [16:16] or maybe i can... [16:17] lnas are so annoying [16:17] fsphil, needs more consonants? I've never tried to read Welsh actually. [16:17] fsphil [16:17] doubt I could pronounce anything.. [16:17] I did it :) [16:18] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:18] just read that m1x10, fantastic [16:18] does it work? [16:18] still didnt upload any code [16:18] Laurenceb: this is still the dead-bugged version? [16:18] will do now [16:18] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [16:19] fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129246 [16:19] Nick change: TraumaPrincess -> TraumaPony [16:19] nice [16:19] the bootloader is some bytes larger, so I had to increase the space in the flash mem [16:21] Nick change: Divadllits -> racecar [16:21] yes [16:21] i used tons of copper tape [16:21] seems the oscillation was caused by rf leaking into the bench supply again [16:21] so now I guess I have to put the 14mhz osc [16:22] cause arduino cannot upload code :( [16:22] i havent get a pc setup to reflash the avr on it - its going to be powered off an io pin [16:22] so the case is open and im running some crock clips in [16:22] seems they are leaching some rf [16:23] in hindsight - dont use 6GHz lnas [16:27] GW8RAK (561741dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.23.65.221) joined #highaltitude. [16:30] mhh [16:30] Cant upload code [16:31] fsphil: what else to change somewhere? [16:33] lol [16:33] worked [16:33] different crystal? [16:33] yes [16:33] running my code nicely [16:33] :P [16:34] finally now I can start playing with the baudrates ! [16:34] all that story just for the baudrates! [16:34] plus you can program directly in future :) [16:34] without the bootloader [16:35] what? [16:35] dont confuse me ! [16:35] :) [16:35] muhaha [16:35] lol [16:35] evol [16:37] Nick change: racecar -> stilldavid [16:37] Nick change: stilldavid -> divadllits [16:37] I had to change the F_CPU for the arduino IDE [16:43] Action: Laurenceb is spending christmas getting pissed and listening to deadmau5 at full volume [16:44] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:47] not a bad plan [16:47] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude. [16:50] mh [16:50] 38400 [16:50] 57600 not working [16:50] :( [16:58] lol [16:58] 115200 [16:58] working? [16:58] yeah babe [16:58] :) [16:58] but let me check the picture [16:59] wait [17:02] fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129257 :p [17:02] lol [17:02] looks good to me [17:02] so we consider this matter closed? :p [17:03] take a few more :p [17:03] haha [17:03] it moved the pic from the camera to the microSD a bit fast :p [17:04] Im waiting some 10cm cables 2mm-2.54mm to arrive. Then I will correctly wire the camera [17:04] and move it anywhere i like [17:04] Now I have the 2mm pins of the camera stretched to fit to a 2.54mm breadboard [17:05] somewhat awkward [17:05] how u tell it [17:09] lol [17:09] look [17:09] http://imagebin.org/129258 [17:11] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUmvPgH5iD0 <- so epic [17:18] ok counted [17:18] 30 secs to move the pic [17:19] at chunks of 80 byte each [17:20] fsphil: http://imagebin.org/129263 [17:21] nice speakers [17:21] lol [17:22] Nick change: divadllits -> stilldavid [17:23] for some strange reason [17:23] when my code runs [17:23] console shows a '0' [17:23] before my program starts to print things out [17:27] ok it takes 19sec to move it [17:27] with the printing commands it takes 30sec [17:33] I wonder which bit is slower-- the camera or the sd card [17:33] sd for sure :P [17:34] my microSD breakout works with a level converter. Its on 5v. [17:34] yea, thinking that - at 115200 baud it should take about 6 seconds to send the image [17:34] i have ordered a normal 3v breakout [17:34] to skip the level converter chip [17:35] see: http://yhst-27389313707334.stores.yahoo.net/micaad.html [17:36] WonTu (~WonTu@p57B53D77.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:36] WonTu (WonTu@p57B53D77.dip.t-dialin.net) left #highaltitude. [17:37] does ubuntu allow multisession cdr? [17:51] DagoRed (~dago@207-172-35-190.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:00] you mean authoring? [18:00] reading has been in the kernel driver a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time [18:03] DagoRed (~dago@207-172-35-190.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Quit: me gtfo [18:07] http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg918o_extreme-protest-against-the-govern-bucharest-romania_news [18:19] gravity always wins [18:22] oh theres an option to create one [18:22] checkbox isnt selected by default [18:30] hmm looks like the lna starts oscillating as soon as i connect the bench supply [18:30] unless i have it at the other end of the desk [18:30] theres a choke in the way but it does have some parasitic capacitance [18:33] are there any big changes in the predictor project? [18:42] I've been looking into the solar glider, and it would appear that one of the comments I saw on here is incorrect. The super/hyper AVA Pro-E appears to be able to sustain level flight at 5-6w/lb. Now I just need to source *lightweight* 15%+ efficient thinfilm panels, design a camera fuselage, and clear some funding [18:45] It depends on sink rate, and your prop. [18:45] Get those right, ... [18:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjHUDYiQINQ [18:47] interesting thing [18:47] the remark was that 10w/lb was an absolute hard minimum - yay for progress [18:47] I note for example that conventional Si cells are about 200w/Kg [18:47] If you consider only the bare Si cell. [18:47] theres powerfilm panels [18:48] I was considering something like an inflated PET tube, with cells in, on a simple 1D gimbal. [18:48] heh [18:48] if you just want daytime it looks easy to me [18:48] 50W/Kg isn't that hard. But crashes will make you a sad panda. [18:48] wel "possible" [18:51] but yeah look at powerfilm [18:51] And yes. [18:52] odd. I looked at it before and could only find heavy stuff. I look at it today and there's a 28w battery charger that weighs 800g [18:52] Powerfilm or similar is probably more sane [18:52] iirc powerfilm and some of the prop motor combos off hobby king would work [18:52] for a dumb direct sunlight plane [18:52] Also - make sure that the weight is real [18:53] but iirc its already been done on rc-groups [18:53] A lot of venfors don't really care about the accuracy of the weight spec [18:53] so don't really check it. [18:53] this one makes more sense: http://www.buyenergyefficient.org/powerfilmfoldable30wattsolarchargerf15-1800.aspx [18:53] chop it up and rewire on the wing for flexibility [18:54] or just buy bare cells [18:57] but this has been done on rc-groups [18:57] last time i checked no-one had managed to get rc gear on as well [18:57] lol http://www.oksolar.com/pv/cells_flex1.htm [18:57] thats what you want [18:58] "These modules do not have UV-stabilized surface." means they'll last how long? [18:58] weeks maybe [18:59] http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Cps-Solar-Cps-ink-Supplies/Flexible-Solar-Panels-/_i.html?_fsub=10&_sid=18696911&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 [19:02] http://www.gizmag.com/top-10-things-cant-have-christmas-2010/17339/ [19:02] I wonder what happens if you replace the obvious oodleohorsepower engine and prop, with a tail. [19:02] It should get really quite good mileage. [19:02] of the shark [19:02] mhhh [19:02] I got a question [19:03] If I run the mcu at 3v3 it will run at 10mhz [19:03] that means I need a 10mhz oscillator? [19:04] Or lower, if that's the maximum speed [19:04] you may be able to use a RC or other internal oscillator too [19:05] atmega644p datasheet says if i power it with 3v3 it will operate at 10mhz [19:05] at 5v it can operate at 16mhz [19:05] lol the tv [19:05] SpeedEvil: just $100k? It's going to be a white Christmas in Miami [19:05] but 10mhz frequency makes the baudrates of the usart to have big error % [19:06] Burninate: yes - that was also my thought [19:06] the next lower with 0.0% error is a osc with freq = 7.3728 [19:06] ping fsphil [19:07] Man [19:08] it's been what, 5 years since that South Park episode came out? [19:08] and already: http://www.gizmag.com/top-10-things-cant-have-christmas-2010/17339/picture/126714/ [19:08] the 152inch tv is cool [19:08] or you could use a projector [19:11] http://ipmenu.com/archive/AUI_2001100012.pdf [19:16] w00t! just got my ZP envelope in the mail! [19:16] Action: stilldavid does happy balloon dane [19:16] er, dance [19:16] oh nice [19:17] where from [19:35] GeekShadow (~Antoine@93.21.159.10) joined #highaltitude. [19:35] GeekShadow (~Antoine@93.21.159.10) left irc: Changing host [19:35] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [19:41] global western [19:44] looks really slick [19:44] I really want to take it out and inflate it with a leaf blower or something [19:47] Laurenceb, good idea/bad idea? [19:49] probably a bad idea [19:50] It's gonna be impossible to fold it back up [19:53] heh, fair point [19:54] badbbfgfrmoreover they attract cuts and nicks [19:54] whoopsie [19:54] uh, I agree. I think? [19:55] gnu screen messed up [19:55] but I want to so bad! /whinyvoice [19:55] Order another one, and have fun with this one. [19:55] got a spare $300? [19:55] actually, looking at this thing I think I could make my own [19:56] if this has any sort of success I think I'll try [19:56] I spent much of today trying to get through to my bank, trying to convince them not to charge me an unauthorised overdraft fee for $3. [19:56] so, no. [19:56] I feel your pain. I'm still waiting for the second payment check to clear :-/ [19:57] plus the whole "holidays" thing that always has terrible timing :( [19:57] GW8RAK (561741dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.23.65.221) left irc: Quit: Page closed [19:58] smea (~smealum@85-171-205-215.rev.numericable.fr) joined #highaltitude. [19:59] Action: SpeedEvil needs to get this insulation done. [19:59] No energy to do it though. :/ [19:59] I can't afford to heat without it - so am using electric blankets. [19:59] Which are great - but... [19:59] meh. [19:59] Action: SpeedEvil goes back to reading about problems with the patent system. [20:01] stilldavid: they take a majagabazzillion man hours to make [20:01] seriously [20:01] hm. so it's worth paying someone to do it? [20:01] it's astonishing how much harder they are to hand make than they look [20:01] Or a really clever machine [20:01] I'm having a hard time finding a mylar supplier online, too.. [20:01] speaking from experience [20:01] A 100m*2 table helps too [20:02] oh? how about a huge unused shipping floor? [20:02] If it's really clean. [20:02] stilldavid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK80MXHQ5hA [20:03] we have since made a robotic continuous seam welding machine to speed this up [20:03] but had to mothball it due to loosing lab space [20:03] pretty [20:03] we have 3 ZPs in the lab that'll take about 100kg to 25km though [20:04] with many tanks of helium, no doubt [20:04] incidentally, how did you design the cutting patterns to build that balloon? [20:04] that's awesome, though [20:04] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [20:04] russss: parametrically given the 'ideal balloon shape' [20:04] eroomde: Now, all you need is a parachute, a way to call the media, a small eroomde shaped pressure-vessel, an oxygen cylinder, and profit! [20:05] russss: python script to generage pdfs for the printer from that [20:05] but... lost in the sands of hard-drive time [20:05] I was doing a similar thing for our blimp and I was surprised there seemed to be no "standard" way of slicing up a 3D model into patterns [20:06] our script was a diy job [20:06] that's basically what I did, except my python outputs DXF [20:06] :P [20:08] but yep that little one in the vid took 4 people i think 4 16 hr days [20:09] just very, very faffy and delicate [20:12] DagoRed (~dago@216-164-211-176.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:18] this strong wind doesn't look like it's in a hurry to go away -- all the predictions still have me landing in scotland [20:20] http://code.google.com/p/littleblackbox/ [20:22] fsphil: I think I got a problem. Running mcu at 3v3 it needs a crystal upto 10mhz. At 10mhz the 115200 baudrate got much error %. The next lower freq is 7.3728 !! :( [20:23] aye, that's the frequency I'm using [20:23] !! [20:23] the 14.x might work, but you'd be over-clocking it :) [20:23] yeah [20:23] so u got crystals at 7.3mhz [20:23] what is the error %? [20:23] You can have up to ~3% without issue [20:28] the uart cameras seem to be a lot fussier [20:28] yeah [20:32] fsphil where did u find those 7mhz crystals? [20:32] local market? [20:33] sparkfun actually, got them along with the c328 camera [20:33] sparkfun does not have them [20:34] hmm.. lemme see, I might be wrong [20:35] ok [20:35] ah, your right - it was rapid online [20:35] i should look at the local market [20:36] anyway [20:36] eyes closing [20:36] cu tommorow ! 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[22:45] hi [22:45] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [22:45] ih [22:46] think i worked out the oscillation issue [22:46] Congrats! [22:46] if its oscillating at a few Ghz then the rf just leaks through the filtering [22:46] hmm [22:46] and into the bench power supply [22:47] and then gets rectified? [22:47] no, then just radiated [22:47] umm [22:47] why doesn't it radiate form the psu leads? [22:47] they are sheilded [22:47] ah [22:48] hopefully this shouldnt be an issue with the usb [22:48] as theres alu case, and ferrite on the usb cable [22:49] So you mean you're getting oscillation from the radiated emissions from the PSU getting picked up by the antenna? [22:51] yes [22:51] presumably at a few ghz - i cant pick it up [22:51] Add a 1R in each lead inside the case, and add assorted caps behind it? [22:51] there excess current and signs of loads of rfi [22:52] the display on the bench supply goes mad [22:52] i can make it work by moving the ant a few m down the desk [22:53] the lna has high gain to 6GHz so it could be really high [22:55] No 6GHz scope? :) [22:56] Jasperw (~jasperw@client-81-100-24-92.cht-bng-015.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude. [22:56] heh [23:08] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:20] hi jcoxon [23:20] long day? [23:20] hey eroomde yeah [23:20] finished at 22:15 [23:20] ouch [23:20] just winding down before bed then have to be in for 8 [23:21] yeah not good, lots of sick patients - though only one died [23:22] :s [23:23] new day tomorrow [23:23] it just starts again :-) [23:23] is that fewer than usual? [23:23] most days are okay [23:29] turn to alcohol for the winding down, I would [23:30] nah [23:30] family guy [23:30] got my gps bee working with a nice breakout [23:30] really please as its nice and secure and ublox when they work are awesome [23:30] but seeedstudio have sold out :-( [23:31] forcing you to takea christmas break [23:31] hehe [23:35] nah never take a break [23:46] juxta (juxta@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [23:49] eroomde, we've cracked the us market regarding dl-fldigi and spacenear.us [23:53] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:58] hey juxta [23:58] how about a new years day launch? :P [23:59] hey Darkside [23:59] I won't be here around the new year [23:59] but I have a launch scheduled for pretty soon [23:59] :) [00:00] --- Fri Dec 24 2010