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[09:38] futurity (~anonymous@cpc6-cmbg15-2-0-cust236.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:43] slothearn (~euclid@pool-96-249-157-79.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) joined #highaltitude. [10:21] Morning All. Has anyone ever had problems with the low pressure at altitude causing any problems please? [10:22] I've got the option of taking the payload to a simulated 80K feet but don't know if it is worth it. [10:23] Do no harm - but I don't remember hearing about problems with pressure, only temperature [10:24] I wonder if they can freeze it as well? [10:25] Grease in gears and mechanisms can freeze - that killed the Cirrus guys camera about half way up [10:25] it might have been pressure that killed our geiger muller tube [10:25] but apart from that, not had any issues [10:26] I hadn't heard of anything failing due to pressures. [10:26] If there is anything which people want tested, I could claim it's part of our payload and probably get it tested. [10:37] woo, helium should be here Friday [10:40] All ready to go? [10:42] getting there, all coming together nicely [10:42] landing looks certain to be on the other side of the irish sea [10:42] near Lancaster [10:48] fsphil: where are you launching from? [10:48] http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=2dd0e9ef9b893dd4a1f6f95256554ab29585b0d7 [10:49] An-Cregan in N.Ireland -- basically the middle of nowhere [10:49] awesome [10:52] it's quite high up so there's a risk the snow might cause trouble [10:52] our GPS said about 180 meters last time [10:59] fsphil: nice flight path [11:00] it is! bit risky but worth it I think [11:01] I can't get up there this weekend fsphil, but I may be up there on business next week. [11:02] it'll be fantastic if you pull it off [11:02] SpeedEvil: wow nice stuff [11:03] GW8RAK, no probs - the batteries won't last that long but it's a pretty shiney box [11:03] lots of other stuff [11:03] but crystal filters help a lot [11:04] if it lands in a flat area, and doesn't get covered in snow, it should be fairly easy to spot [11:04] the parachute will be black though [11:04] I suppose I could get some pink duct tape :) [11:04] And the black parachute will come down and neatly cover the shiny box [11:05] its quite strong actually [11:05] haha [11:05] I might see if I can program in a low power mode [11:06] switch the camera and radio off [11:06] do a beacon every 5 minutes or so [11:07] bit like what james did for the bh flight [11:07] we are slightly further away, but not much [11:17] To be really devious fsphil, put some food dye on the outside of the box, perhaps a soggy tampon. If it lands in snow, the dye will spread out and stain a large area of snow. [11:20] hmm, wouldn't the dye just freeze? [11:21] I'm trying to remember what sort of dye is best. It used to be a popular way of attracting attention in the Alps until someone wrote ARSE in big letters above Chamonix [11:21] lol [11:21] Some people don't have a sense of humour. [11:22] morning [11:22] Morning [11:24] morning eroomde [11:27] morning jonsowman [12:04] _sh3 (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sh3/x-62271040) joined #highaltitude. [12:23] LNA works :P [12:23] yay [12:24] dead bugged it more neatly on fr4 with rg174 for all the rf [12:25] well i dont have a scope to test in the GHz, but the current is on spec [12:25] Well done [12:25] its drawing 9.8ma @3.3v, datasheet days 10.5 [12:26] just need to work out how to splice the rg174 onto rg58m [12:26] which is a little tricky as any rf leakage may result in a microwave oscillator again [12:26] guess copper tape is required [12:28] i might mount it inside the tubular alu boom down the antenni center [12:28] that'll provide some extra sheilding [12:28] and the pcb is only 4mm square [12:28] If it's going in a tin plate box, use sma connectors. [12:30] no - im integrating it into the antenni [12:30] probalby inside the boom [12:31] Will the pcb be earth bonded to the aerial? [12:32] no [12:32] guess i could bond the bottom layer [12:32] foil tape is probable most sensible [12:33] use some styrofoam to make a standoff [13:04] MoALTz (~no@92.8.25.126) joined #highaltitude. [13:16] DagoRed (~dago@j15-1.nat.iastate.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:59] Can anyone remember that high framerate digital camera someone was playing with a bit ago [14:09] this one? http://exilim.casio.com/products_exf1.shtml [14:10] Aha [14:10] thanks! [14:13] 1.2kfps wow [14:13] useful for rocketry [14:15] Action: Laurenceb has an annoying issue - i have four lines, so 6 interveption points [14:15] i need need to find the four that form a 4 sided polygon [14:15] somehow i doubt it really does 1.2kfps video [14:15] - lines in 2D [14:17] http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+exf1&aq=f [14:17] tiger [14:17] 336 x 96 (1200 fps) [14:17] 6 interception points? [14:17] Oh - for nonparallel [14:20] Action: Elwell has the http://exilim.casio.com/products_exfc100.shtml -- shoots about 4 secs at 30fps then has to write the lot to card for ~12 secs [14:20] SpeedEvil: just as i thought - it's not true 1.2kfps (plus the quality sucks). [14:20] doing high speed video it also needs *lots* of light [14:21] Well - expecting 10MP is barking mad [14:21] or quality really goes down [14:21] Elwell: true that [14:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlY0OTxHnII (a real high-speed camera @ only 750fps) [14:21] shenki (~joel@219-90-166-184.ip.adam.com.au) left irc: Quit: moving machines [14:21] but for a pocket snappy it's got some lovely shots [14:22] shenki (~joel@219-90-166-184.ip.adam.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [14:23] Sure - I'm not saying it's ideal. But for 'only' $999 it is awesome for some apps [14:23] http://www.flickr.com/photos/elwell/3756047474/in/set-72157621870722656/ [14:25] :) [14:26] MoALTz (~no@92.8.25.126) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:28] shenki (~joel@219-90-166-184.ip.adam.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:28] shenki (~joel@182-239-140-235.ip.adam.com.au) joined #highaltitude. [14:34] so, i have lines 1 to 4 and the 6 intercept points [14:35] i need to find the 4 sided polygon [14:35] Action: Laurenceb doesnt know where to start :/ [14:35] theres got to be an existing algorithm to solve this ? [14:36] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:37] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [14:39] If you can deal with the lines independantly, then find the centroid of the 5 points that lie on 2 lines. Then it's the 4 points to one side of the centroid [14:40] Actually - that may not work for extremely skewed polygons [14:42] yeah [14:43] i have an idea- when you go around a polygon you move clockwise or anticlockwise [14:43] si if i arrange the lines according to their angle with the x azis [14:44] it might go 1to4 intercept, 1to2 intercept, 2to3 intercept, 3to4intercept [14:44] as the polygon vertices [14:45] Work out the summation of the angles. [14:46] you want a 4 sided polygon [14:46] err [14:46] doesn't just finding the only 4 sided polygon work? [14:46] i think the ordering thing works [14:46] but how lol [14:47] yeah [14:47] i suspect the ordering might just work, coding it now [14:47] a lot of this stuff is obvious on paper [14:47] But the computer has n o pper [14:48] computers dont understand common sense [14:50] Discard any point that falls on two lines if those lines intersect three points [14:50] If you see what I mean [14:53] juxta_ (juxta@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:55] problem is the a 180 degree angle ambiguity [14:55] i can go down each line either way [14:59] Doesn't matter [14:59] why not? [14:59] Action: Laurenceb has completely lost the plot [14:59] err [15:02] yeah - sorry - that doesn't work [15:07] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) joined #highaltitude. [15:07] You have 4 lines. And 6 points. Break the lines at every point, so you have 8 lines and 6 points. Find the line segments that form a closed path around 4 points. [15:07] Closed path = line segments connecting 4 points. [15:14] hmm still seems tricky [15:14] i think l;ooking at the number of points either side of each point - travelling along a line might help [15:20] oh how pissed off is nigey today :@ [15:21] uh-oh [15:21] Ł650 gas bill ! [15:21] wow thats mad [15:21] Ow. [15:21] what sort of boiler? [15:23] oh its an economy boiler.. aparently where we switched from british gas to swalec something got screwed up and we werent being charged the standing charges :( [15:24] ah [15:25] its always worth getting a better boiler, even if you just wack it into the old dodgey heating system [15:25] quite annoyed actually because i had rung them 3 times this year saying i was concerned the bill was to cheap and was consistently told it was correct [15:25] good combi condensers are much less than that bill [15:25] You can require them to accept payments over time [15:25] Laurenceb: no, they're not [15:25] Laurenceb: combi or not is _competely_ irrelevant. [15:26] well - condenser [15:26] Combi is only ~40% at best more efficient than 'normal' [15:26] of 650 thats a lot [15:26] And you can easily get much, much wider variations than that due to size of house [15:26] well theyre going to accept 36 per month for 18 months ontop of the normal bill, which is ok, but im still quite annoyed, i was actively trying to get it resolved before being hit with a huge bill but meh [15:27] but compared to insulating, upgrading the boiler is often a better ROI [15:27] Sure. [15:27] Unless it's cavities [15:27] yeah - i spent last summer doing drylining [15:27] draught-sealing, cavities/roof, boiler, then proper insulation [15:27] its a lot of work [15:28] the double glazing needs draught proofing now :( [15:28] Action: SpeedEvil still has it barely started from a couple of years ago. [15:28] shouldnt have got the cheapest units [15:28] Well - I say barely started - that's not quite true [15:28] this house is awful for insulation, the loft is fine, triple insulated, but the walls, seem awful, the rooms never really get all that warm [15:29] I have insulation on the walls, and awaiting the plasterboard and lattice to be fited to it [15:29] yeah - you need to actually do the sums [15:29] and work out what your current insulation actually is. [15:29] Doubling roof insulation may alter your bill 2% forex [15:29] when i did the numbers the best bet was british gypsum insulated plasterboard [15:29] If the walls are leaky enough [15:30] for plain insulating existing cavities, or extratherm for drylining [15:30] hmm almost all our walls are brick, as opposd to plasterboard [15:30] cavity? [15:30] http://tapsnshowers.co.uk/items/Sime-Ecomfort-35kw.asp is our boiler btw [15:30] looks half decent [15:31] quick poll: for the payload notice .. "Reward if found" .. or "Reward for safe return" [15:31] second [15:31] no idea, just brick with what seems to be a thin layer of plaster :( [15:31] how old is the house? [15:31] safe return [15:31] Nigey: One layer of brick, or two? [15:31] crikey, it is pre ww2 [15:31] Nigey: Is there brick -> space -> brick [15:31] yea, agreed. thanks guys [15:31] If so - cavity wall insulation is a good idea [15:31] no just 1 layer of brick from what i can tell looking in the loft [15:31] yeah, cavity if at all poss [15:32] oh that sucks [15:32] Ow. [15:32] lovely house, just old and cold! lol [15:32] Yeah - the ways you insulate that are either external insulation, or drylining. [15:32] unless you want to practically dismantle the whole house you cant easily insulate [15:32] Or lots of fucking jumpers and electric blankets [15:32] theres the russian approach [15:32] lol jumpers rock! [15:32] I'm taking that appeoach ATM - 5C in here [15:32] spray the outside with polyurethane foam [15:33] prolly doesnt help that 2 of the bedrooms have open fireplaces [15:33] Does if you use them. [15:33] fit a woodburning stove [15:34] nope, theyre just decorative, would love the landlord to say brick them up! lol [15:34] oh itys rented? [15:34] Fit a paperburning stove, get a second letterbox fitted, and subscribe to everything with it [15:34] yeah, for now, we do have the buying option, but im not sure i want to stay in this area for too long [15:34] lol [15:34] SpeedEvil, lmao! [15:35] btw .. [15:35] and i have pics to prove it [15:35] i went to put a lawn in the garden in the summer.. [15:35] 5 inches under the soil, ww2 bunker [15:35] fun. [15:36] no! lol its bloody hard concrete, i had to leave it alone, and put the lawn on top [15:37] excavate it and use as a WW3 binker [15:38] lol it goes down a fair few feet to [15:39] www.nigey.co.uk/images/bunker.bmp [15:40] are you sure thats not the foundations? [15:41] Is that not a shed base from someone overenthusiastic? [15:42] nah its def the remains of a bunker, we found some aerial pics from 1941 that show the actual bunker [15:42] neat [15:42] neat [15:42] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/alan_sugar_autobiography_pleasure/ [15:42] ive got an echo [15:42] prolly because we're a stones throw from cardiff docks, mightve been a nice target for the germans [15:43] http://www.nigey.co.uk/finale.bmp .. made a nice lawn though lol [15:44] Branson? [15:44] err [15:44] Sugar? [15:44] oops ... http://www.nigey.co.uk/images/finale.bmp [15:44] I thought of Bransons http://current.com/news/89987117_richard-branson-and-a-naked-denni-parkinson-nsfw-photos.htm [15:45] http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/sets/72157623642782601/ - also been doing the lawn thing [15:45] It's not quite as pretty as yours yet [15:45] crikey, its alot bigger though! lol [15:46] yeah - way too many things to do, and little energy. [15:46] And too much shit. [15:46] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:46] i was quite stunned that i'd brought in almost 3 tonnes of topsoil, and 2 tonne of stones mind, you wouldnt think it by the size of the garden [15:47] yes - I was looking at getting 20 tons of stone delivered earlier this year [15:47] bunker would make a great radio shack [15:47] or server room [15:47] wow now thats alot of stone! [15:47] phil, dont tempt me! lol [15:47] To gravel to 5cm thickness 300m^2 or so [15:49] crazy stuff, i had to get mine tipped at the front and shoveled into small buckets to take it through to the garden, took me ages :( [15:49] yeah. [15:50] I'd be hiring a body to roughly get it into the right place [15:50] a single delivery on an arctic ? [15:51] yes [15:51] nicey, make sure to get some radox :p [15:52] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [15:52] I'd be employing someone to move it from big pile into barrow-shaped piles spread around the place [15:52] Or doing it at a barrow every couple of days [15:53] yeah best way, btw i do like the pond [15:53] we didnt have room for 1 here :( [15:56] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:00] http://www.nigey.co.uk/images/odd.bmp free beer to whoever can explain this picture [16:07] sundog [16:10] i think the angles wrong for a sundog, in that pic the sun was at about 7 oclock relative to the arc [16:10] jonsowman: I just did this [16:10] http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.macports.uninstalling.html [16:10] I feel... hygienic [16:15] Nigey: was it real, or camera? [16:16] oh it was real, could see it very clearly with the naked eye [16:16] so the sun was off the bottom of the pic? [16:18] http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/halo22.html neat [16:18] http://vjac.free.fr/skyshows/icehalos/icehalos.html [16:19] I didn't realise there where so many of these things [16:19] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host81-156-68-175.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] [16:19] SpeedEvil, yups, and as i was saying to phil, kinda mother of pearl colour that doesnt show to well in the image :( [16:19] v/join #sparkfun [16:20] I'm sorry dave, I'm afraid I can't do that [16:20] nooo! [16:20] lol [16:20] I suck at the Internet today. [16:22] stilldavid: are you still travelling? [16:22] no, back at work now [16:22] wasn't enough time away, I'm convinced [16:23] should be getting a ZP envelope in post in a couple weeks though! [16:24] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [16:25] nice! [16:26] I'm going to do one more latex launch before heading down that road, though [16:26] do you have a plan for the ZP? [16:26] not really :P [16:27] thinking transamerica or as much as I can cover [16:27] 2lb payload, 10lb ballast, VHF transmitter for APRS and an HF xciever for backup and control [16:28] hmm.. ZP + solar powered rotor for steering [16:30] fsphil, have heard mixed results with solar at altitude [16:31] I haven't done much research into it, but I'd expect them to work fairly well? [16:31] no cloud to worry about [16:33] go ahead and explain this to me then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insolation#Distribution_of_insolation_at_the_top_of_the_atmosphere [16:35] fsphil: I think, based on some sums we did for the transatlantic a bit back, that (with our cost/benefit criteria) batteries made sense for up to about 2 weeks of mission endurence [16:36] yeah, I figured it's simple and effective. even if I wind up dumping extra lithiums in there [16:36] I think I read on the wiki that groups were even pondering jettisoning used batteries for extra ballast... not sure about environmental impacts of that though [16:37] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:37] yeah I would have some objections to that from an environmental pov [16:37] although, we might start a new lithium based life form at the bottom of the ocean [16:39] I can't even read that wiki page :\ [16:40] you and me both [16:40] but either way, I'm only shooting for 36-48hrs so I'm not worried about solar just yet [16:41] but hey, while I'm here, anyone have any good ideas for low-power high-sensitivity HF transceivers? [16:44] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [16:50] the DDS-60 can make a nice low power (40mw) HF transmitter for FSK modes or CW .. don't know any receivers or transceivers [16:51] I need two-way comm for cut-down if it flies in active airspace at night. :-/ [16:51] I found a pretty good CW xceiver (can't remember the name now...) but wanted to see what else there was [16:52] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:55] Laurenceb: you about? [16:57] the softrock SDR kits appear to be just USB transceivers [16:58] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [17:04] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:06] MoALTz (~no@92.8.25.126) joined #highaltitude. [17:19] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [17:28] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:57] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [18:23] gfgfgfgfg (4d66eb98@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.102.235.152) joined #highaltitude. [18:29] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) joined #highaltitude. [18:39] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:223:5aff:fef5:cce) joined #highaltitude. [18:46] hi [18:49] hiya gfgfgfgfg [18:49] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:49] Some general IRC questions, if you could answer [18:49] ? [18:50] yea, fire away [18:51] if I who is someone, it shows their username in the first line and then something in square brackets, what is that? [18:51] e.g. username [~user@domain.com] [18:51] that's the users ident and hostname [18:52] could you explain what the hostname is [18:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostname :) [18:53] so how come their hostname is the url of a website [18:55] hostnames and urls are both dns names [18:55] well, that's not strictly true [18:55] www.google.com is a hostname [18:55] http://www.google.com/page is a url [18:55] so are they running their irc client from their own server [18:56] most computers on the net will have a hostname [18:56] depends on the users ISP though [18:56] are they running their IRC client from their own server? [18:56] chris_99 (~chris_99@217.39.113.87.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude. [18:56] chris_99 (~chris_99@217.39.113.87.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Changing host [18:56] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [18:58] some do [18:58] there's no difference really [18:59] a server is just a computer [18:59] how can I install IRSSI on a server? do I need a vps [18:59] probably yes, you may want to checkout linode [18:59] they've got some sort of offer on atm [19:01] how do I change my 'real name' [19:05] laurence_ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [19:05] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [19:05] hi [19:06] is it sensible to try and put 434mhz through a 1nf 0603 ceramic cap? [19:07] gfgfgfgfg (4d66eb98@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.102.235.152) left irc: [19:07] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@78.147.78.251) joined #highaltitude. [19:12] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Read error: No route to host [19:22] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:22] - dissapation etc? [19:23] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) joined #highaltitude. 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[20:06] http://pastebin.com/QXT3S0tk [20:06] SpeedEvil: ^ vertex finding [20:06] hideously complex ++ [20:08] Action: Laurenceb_ hates geometry stuff [20:09] pythagoras'd [20:15] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:16] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) joined #highaltitude. [21:10] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [21:14] Nick change: Nigey -> Nigey|Away [21:17] Nick change: Nigey|Away -> Nigey [21:17] weird [21:17] NigeyS (~EcEnTiAl@cpc5-cdif12-2-0-cust155.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:18] What is? [21:22] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@78.147.78.251) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630] [21:28] slothearn (~euclid@pool-96-249-157-79.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: lol kingsqueak :3 [21:30] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:34] slothearn (~euclid@pool-96-249-157-79.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:46] what's new [22:02] darknesslord_ (~darknessl@189.164.33.159) joined #highaltitude. [22:03] iNatrium (~alexei@199.243.188.202) left irc: Quit: My other car is a cdr. [22:07] darknesslord_ (~darknessl@189.164.33.159) left irc: Client Quit [22:15] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:32] jcoxon (~jcoxon@212.183.140.54) joined #highaltitude. [22:34] Evening [22:34] it's been a very quiet evening in here... [22:35] Comes I'm waves [22:35] In* [22:35] here, have some space travel to liven things up a bit http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=39193541 [22:35] at ~2minutes it cuts to an internal shot which just looks like they're chilling out reading the paper. [22:35] Just needs someone to start it off [22:37] So 2 launches this weekend [22:37] I'm out of range of both [22:38] ditto [22:38] I had to take my antenna feed down to paint upstairs [22:38] Lazyleopard, you are close to the Netherlands [22:41] I might be able to get the Ireland one ? [22:41] or is fsphil not launching this weekend ? [22:42] plan is still for saturday [22:42] but I'm a bit worried about the snow [22:42] I might be able to get that one from my location [22:43] Well I'm aiming for the new year [22:43] I need to buy some balloons [22:43] and see if we can launch from York [22:44] Not this weekend I'm not. ;) [22:44] where abouts are you Upu? [22:44] Yorkshire [22:45] it's heading in roughtly your direction, so you'll have no problems receiving it [22:45] infact it might land near you [22:45] you floating ? [22:45] strong winds [22:45] prediction url ? [22:46] one sec [22:46] could have changed since I last run it.. [22:47] gah, predictors playing silly buggers [22:48] :) [22:48] weather forecast for this weekend is diabolical [22:48] I've finally worked out how to make CHDK work with > 4Gb cards only using windows [22:48] it's meant to be 1 degree and gusting force 7 on saturday [22:48] the "on board" partitioning thingy on CHDK didn't work for me [22:49] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [22:50] perfect balloon launching weather ;-) [22:50] heh [22:50] perfect not-leaving-the-house weather more likely. [22:50] yeah :) [22:50] ;) [22:52] anyway, the last prediction had it landing just past Lancaster [22:53] or further depending on the burst altitude [22:53] book a ferry :p [22:54] I could get that :) [22:54] predictions are liable to change but it would be an excellent flight [22:54] well I look forward to it [22:55] p.s if it ends up in the Yorkshire Dales kthxbai [22:55] lol [22:56] I've given up trying to get the screen on my A560 to turn off via the script [22:56] and ended up shoving the internals of an old biro in the video out [22:56] it's so pikey [23:02] haha but if it works.. ;) [23:02] I set aside a bag of capacitors, so I wouldn't loose them. And now I can't find them. Ahh! [23:02] :o that's my trick! [23:05] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:05] fsphil: predictor issues? [23:06] yea, has it bursting at launch, or going into orbit [23:06] heh [23:06] 2 secs [23:06] try that [23:06] orbit :O congrats phil lol [23:06] k [23:06] ping me on irc if it's playing up [23:06] I don't always read the backlog when I come back after being afk [23:07] np [23:07] eek.. it's changed quite a bit since this-morning: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=2dd0e9ef9b893dd4a1f6f95256554ab29585b0d7 [23:08] dam, you're gonna need a speedboat dude ! [23:08] seems like the current weather is a bastard to predict [23:09] Well I'll keep an eye on that :) [23:09]