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[09:46] <fsphil> definitely no launch for me this weekend
[09:48] <eroomde> morning all
[09:48] <eroomde> jcoxon: hi
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[10:05] <NigeyMoby> Morning all
[10:10] <jcoxon> morning eroomde
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[10:33] <eroomde> jcoxon: have you played with boxee?
[10:33] <eroomde> I just put it on my mac
[10:33] <jcoxon> no
[10:33] <eroomde> it's wonderful. it's what front row could be with vision
[10:34] <eroomde> it does everything front row does but further has apps, in a similar paradigm to iDevices, for example i have the iplayer app and the youtube app
[10:34] <jcoxon> cool
[10:34] <eroomde> so you can grab iplayer stuff just with the apple remote
[10:34] <eroomde> i'm very tempted to build a HTPC now - it's really excellent
[10:36] <jcoxon> :-)
[10:36] <jcoxon> urgh i don't want to go to work today
[10:36] <jcoxon> am on the late shift
[10:36] <jcoxon> no fun
[10:37] <eroomde> what are the hours of a late shift?
[10:37] <jcoxon> 12 - 8
[10:37] <jcoxon> not too bad
[10:37] <jcoxon> and then tomorrow i'm 9 til 5
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[10:43] <UpuMobile> morning
[10:44] <eroomde> poo bums
[10:44] <eroomde> sorry not you, UpuMobile
[10:45] <eroomde> that was in reference to something else
[10:45] <UpuMobile> lol ok
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[10:47] <jcoxon> the joy of a reset button when uploading onto an arduino
[10:48] <eroomde> the pain of the reset button when it activates on a hard landing
[10:49] <jcoxon> yeah my board doesn't have one
[10:49] <eroomde> oh? that's a bum
[10:49] <fsphil> or landing on the on/off switch :p
[10:50] <eroomde> i thought the default arduino schematic had the ftdi chip to reset on one of its i/os
[10:50] <jcoxon> eroomde, oh i mean my flight computer
[10:53] <jcoxon> damn a parking ticket
[10:53] <jcoxon> and i was able to chat with the warden
[10:53] <jcoxon> literally put it onto my windscreen as i arrived
[10:55] <eroomde> bastard - where?
[10:55] <jcoxon> just outside on the road
[10:55] <eroomde> 'chat with the warden'
[10:55] <jcoxon> as in she was just leaving the car
[10:55] <eroomde> does that mean his body should wash up within the next 48 hours?
[10:56] <jcoxon> haha
[10:56] <jcoxon> sadly not
[10:56] <jcoxon> with a delightfully fake sympathy
[10:59] <jcoxon> i'll appeal it :-p
[10:59] <jcoxon> just to annoy them
[10:59] <eroomde> good
[10:59] <jcoxon> as it'll take up 20 mins of their time to reject the appeal
[11:00] <jcoxon> which will equal the same amount of money they charge me
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[11:34] <UpuMobile> 4 camera launch, thats impressive :)
[11:34] <UpuMobile> I need to do some testing then hopefully I'm good to go
[11:35] <UpuMobile> if I disconnect I'm on a train to london
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[12:29] <GW8RAK> Laurenceb - Have the parts for your ZL special arrived yet?
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[12:54] <Laurenceb_> no
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> :(
[12:54] Action: Laurenceb_ is pissed off
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> i must have sent about 4 emails
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> they always get answered within about 5mins
[12:55] <Laurenceb_> with some excuse
[12:55] <Laurenceb_> supposedly they have sent the parts twice now
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[13:08] <GW8RAK> Doesn't sound promising
[13:09] <GW8RAK> They probably don't have them in stock and can't be bothered to make just one set of them
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[14:02] <NigeyS> hmmz i cant seem to pick up any of the u.k 70cm repeater station with the yagi :|
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[14:57] <fsphil> they are probably not active
[14:58] <fsphil> if you wait a while they should occasionally transmit an ident in morse code - say once every half hour
[14:59] <DanielRichman> Do you have a license to transmit?
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[15:32] <NigeyS> fsphil, think its the cable, connectors might be a bit wrong :/
[15:32] <NigeyS> DanielRichman, no ?
[15:32] <DanielRichman> ah, ok
[15:33] <fsphil> wrong?
[15:33] <NigeyS> had to make my own cable up, maybe a bad crimp
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[16:35] <timbobel> i cry
[16:35] <timbobel> there is really something wrong with the CUSF2.0 predictor with me on http://habhub.org/predict/
[16:36] <timbobel> the button is being funny againm. i click it, nothing.
[16:37] Action: DanielRichman clicks
[16:37] <DanielRichman> o-shi
[16:37] <timbobel> whmm?
[16:37] <NigeyS> hey timbobel
[16:37] <timbobel> oh hi
[16:38] <DanielRichman> oh look
[16:38] <DanielRichman> 500
[16:38] <DanielRichman> tasty
[16:38] <DanielRichman> let me go fix that
[16:38] <timbobel> thanks
[16:38] <timbobel> i pimped up the launch site
[16:38] Action: timbobel smiles
[16:38] <timbobel> hollandshoogte.nl
[16:38] <timbobel> www.hollandshoogte.nl
[16:39] <DanielRichman> [11/12/2010 16:38:59.572] (error) handler_fcgi.c:80 - Parsing error: unknown version
[16:39] <DanielRichman> what is this.
[16:39] <DanielRichman> >.<
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[16:40] <Randomskk> oh thta!
[16:40] <Randomskk> restart cherokee
[16:40] <Randomskk> properly
[16:40] <Randomskk> ugh
[16:40] <DanielRichman> done
[16:40] <DanielRichman> it's now working
[16:41] <DanielRichman> timbobel: fixed
[16:44] <timbobel> daniel you are still the man
[16:45] <DanielRichman> timbobel: thank Randomskk :). Randomskk: any idea why it does that :)
[16:45] <Randomskk> no, jonsowman had this bug before with php and googled a bit and found out that restarting cherokee fixes it, it might be something to do with things being upgraded in-place (cherokee's no-downtime upgrades)
[16:46] <Randomskk> perhaps just restarting php would have done too
[16:46] <Randomskk> timbobel: so really you should thank jonsowman
[16:46] <DanielRichman> yeah I found a mailing list page that said restart! but you got there first :P
[16:46] <Randomskk> :P
[16:49] <timbobel> gets stick at 25%
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[16:49] <timbobel> fixed
[16:49] <timbobel> lets see where it goes
[16:49] <timbobel> YEAAAAAAAAAAAASSS
[16:50] <timbobel> WE HAVE GOOD WINDS next weekend
[16:50] <timbobel> Zie winds, zhey are pointing to zie fatherland
[16:50] <timbobel> (germany)
[16:50] <NigeyS> lol
[16:50] <timbobel> daniel
[16:50] <timbobel> or random
[16:50] <timbobel> you're at CU right
[16:50] Action: Randomskk is
[16:51] <timbobel> so weird question
[16:51] <timbobel> how much is your tuituin annually
[16:51] <Randomskk> £3200 ish
[16:51] <timbobel> "on average for a CU student"
[16:51] <timbobel> really??
[16:51] <Randomskk> oh, well I mean
[16:51] <Randomskk> tuition is the same for every university in the UK, currently
[16:51] <timbobel> the news in holland tells us 10.000 quid!
[16:51] <Randomskk> no matter where you go, you pay £3200 for tuition
[16:51] <fsphil> timbobel, not so good winds here
[16:51] <timbobel> fsphil: what do you mean
[16:52] <Randomskk> I pay another few thousand for my accommodation, and my total living expenses is about £10,000 a year, roughly
[16:52] <Randomskk> however the news will be able the new law which allows universities to increase yearly tuition fees to £9000
[16:52] <fsphil> timbobel, my payload would end up in the ocean ;)
[16:52] <Randomskk> which has been quite widely protested by some people
[16:53] <DanielRichman> >.<
[16:53] <Randomskk> in addition, the new law would mean that some universities may charge more than others, which would mean cost of university becomes more of an issue when choosing a uni
[16:53] <Randomskk> however, in all cases it's covered by student loans, anyway
[16:53] <timbobel> fsphil: when are you launching
[16:53] <timbobel> ah
[16:53] <fsphil> timbobel, next weekend hopefully
[16:55] <fsphil> but the early predictions are not great: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=424534aa640eb3d2b19129500af894719f454bdb
[16:55] <timbobel> ah you're in ireland
[16:55] <timbobel> duhhh
[16:55] <timbobel> sorry
[16:55] <timbobel> northern ireland ofcourse
[16:55] <timbobel> which is GB right
[16:56] <timbobel> fpshil, cant you move launchloc?
[16:56] <fsphil> yea, pesky island makes it tricky launching from here.
[16:57] <fsphil> not this time of year - I'm hoping to launch early in the morning
[16:57] <fsphil> launching further away would leave little time to travel to the launch site
[16:58] <fsphil> in the summer when there's plenty of daylight, I might
[17:00] <fsphil> what are you launching timbobel?
[17:02] <timbobel> fsphil: entirely unsure
[17:02] <timbobel> might be 2 launches
[17:02] <timbobel> in a day
[17:02] <timbobel> i have a canon eos350d to obtain some quality
[17:02] <timbobel> also still a canon powershot a560 and a720is, and a mini spycam keychain
[17:03] <timbobel> and ehm. arduino driven GPS lassen IQ..
[17:03] <timbobel> for the rest, no idea
[17:04] <fsphil> ah, so not the fsa03 then? :)
[17:04] <fsphil> launching an eos350d is impressive
[17:04] <timbobel> haha no the fsa03 is broken.. see my youtube video
[17:05] <timbobel> its an instant classic
[17:05] <timbobel> i might have hurt (and i hope so) the sale of the falcom fsa03 a bit
[17:05] <timbobel> its a great module, but the antenna (sarantel) they put on is just integrated awfully
[17:07] <timbobel> i bought an eos350d kit for 100 quid
[17:13] <fsphil> ooh good bargin
[17:13] <fsphil> how heavy is it?
[17:13] <fsphil> (the eos350d)
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[17:38] <timbobel> very light
[17:38] <timbobel> it has the kitlens, which is made out of.. well, as few and as cheap parts as possible, so its fairly light
[17:38] <timbobel> my last payload was 1kg, so that allright
[17:49] <fsphil> yea the kit lens is fairly basic
[17:49] <fsphil> still takes a nice picture though
[17:50] <fsphil> and you can even have manual focus
[17:51] <jonsowman> yeah I don't understand why cherokee does that DanielRichman
[17:51] <DanielRichman> jonsowman: it did it again just now
[17:51] <DanielRichman> had to rerestart it
[17:51] <DanielRichman> (i.e., I restarted it for something else & it started doing that )
[17:51] <jonsowman> it never did it before 1.0.8
[17:51] <jonsowman> or not that I encountered anyway
[17:52] <DanielRichman> we can always roll back, but I don't think they backport their security updates
[17:52] <jonsowman> yea
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[17:52] <jonsowman> I keep meaning to ask #cherokee about it
[17:52] <jonsowman> haven't got round to it yet
[17:53] <NigeyS> jonsowman broke it :p
[17:53] <jonsowman> :(
[17:53] <jonsowman> nessie is still running 1.0.8 isn't it
[17:54] <DanielRichman> upgraded today
[17:54] <jonsowman> 1.0.12 is it now?
[17:54] <jonsowman> they release often :)
[17:55] <DanielRichman> yeah they do :P
[17:55] <DanielRichman> in my opinion having major & minor versions would be better; they're changing things very fast
[17:55] <jonsowman> agreed
[17:55] <DanielRichman> but some stability & security would be nicer
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[19:15] <NigeyS> o i wish i could sometimes!
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[20:07] <Laurenceb_> anyone here know what a perspective transform is?
[20:10] <Gnea> I would imagine that is has to do with changing a perspective
[20:11] <Laurenceb_> heh - i was wondering if anyone could help me
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[20:11] <Laurenceb_> ive got 4 points in the same plane
[20:11] <Laurenceb_> i need to work out the transform from their positions on the screen
[20:13] <DagoRed> Laurenceb_: I would help you but I'm a bit busy.
[20:13] <Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/KsN6z8uk
[20:13] <Laurenceb_> thats my code
[20:13] <Laurenceb_> http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~cwren/interpolator/
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> i copied the equations from there, and worked it out in the case of a square
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> so in world space theres a square
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> its completely screwing up a g is way too big :(
[20:14] <Laurenceb_> *as
[20:15] <Laurenceb_> basically i said the set of XY points in the world plane formed a square
[20:15] <Laurenceb_> then derived a load of simultanious equations to solve in that 8x8 matrix
[20:16] <DagoRed> codepad is your friend btw
[20:16] <Laurenceb_> ive got through it about 20 times and cant see any errors... wondering if i missed somethng fundamental
[20:19] <Laurenceb_> dont have a camera on my or id try and take a shot of the derivation of that - its a few sides of A4 atm
[20:20] <fsphil> hmm.. my first attempt at using the hot-air gun was interesting
[20:20] <fsphil> got some smoke from the board, but the solder didn't budge
[20:21] <Laurenceb_> hmm it could be that i need the correct aspect ratio for the screen
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> and it is
[20:23] <Laurenceb_> working XD
[20:34] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[21:45] <fsphil> oh dear
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[23:00] <jcoxon> evening evening
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