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[12:14] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [12:17] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:17] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [12:29] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) joined #highaltitude. [12:46] Is the cold weather even affecting HAB discussions? [12:47] its not cold here :P [12:47] (australia) [12:48] goddamn, forecast for 36 degrees tomorrow [12:48] Okay, don't rub it in. It's actually got above freezing here. [12:48] no, 36 degrees is bad [12:48] 36 degrees. It's almost that here. [12:48] its too hot [12:48] 36 degrees celsius [12:48] My comment was tongue in cheek [12:48] :-) [12:49] :P [12:49] -11C in the garden this morning. [12:49] I live in an old stone cottage and although it's well insulated, -11 is beyond it's insulation rating. [12:50] heh [12:51] Action: SpeedEvil sighs. [12:52] I live in an old stone cottage that I've not finished insulating, and it's not centrally heated. -8 outside. Electric blankets ++ [12:53] We went 17 years without central heating, just a Rayburn in the kitchen. The kitchen was lovely, but as you got towards the bedroom, it got colder. [12:53] Memories of ice inside the windows. [12:53] Action: SpeedEvil ponders taking pictures of said ice. [13:00] I'm wonder if the cold weather will cause any problems with my launch [13:00] wondering [13:01] When are you Thinking of launching? [13:01] weekend after the next [13:01] snow could all be gone by then ;-) [13:01] though I doubt it [13:01] bring warm clothes, gloves [13:01] :p [13:02] Because of work I get blase of temperatures around -30, but when you soon loose that when personally exposed to negative temps. 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Did you say you were thinking of launching the weekend of the 11/12th? [13:18] indeed -- or the weekend after that [13:18] depending on the weather and predictions [13:19] Something for me to aim for in terms of getting the station set up. [13:19] you should be well placed [13:20] I'm interested in seeing how well the images can be decoded at distance [13:20] you're flying dsstv again then? [13:20] yep [13:20] awesome [13:21] updated so it's a bit more tolerant of missing data [13:21] i am currently radioless and due to get a new one but can't get to the shops just at the moment. otherwise i would certainly liosten out [13:22] i am on the south downs currently. not great I know but I can get myself to 250m ASL [13:22] If the wind blows in the right direction, I really want to rx the SSTV this time. [13:23] fsphil, if it is likely to come down in North Wales, give me some forward notice and I'll try to recover it for you. [13:24] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@212.183.140.36) joined #highaltitude. [13:24] greetings SpikeUK [13:25] that would be a good flight GW8RAK - if it looks like it'll make landfall then I'll definitely have a go at that [13:25] Don't have a boat anymore, so the Irish sea is no go area! [13:26] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) joined #highaltitude. [13:26] It'd be too cold even with a boat [13:43] Zuph (~bradluyst@2001:470:8:626:222:43ff:fe71:9992) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:52] fsphil, what is the weather doing over there this afternoon? What you have had recently is on it's way here. [13:53] it was snowing heavy all morning, I think it's stopped now but I'm not near a window [13:54] m1x10 (m1x10@79.167.234.172) joined #highaltitude. [13:55] The weather forecast hasn't said much about snow here, but with the temperatures, any precipation would be snow. [13:55] Im here again [13:55] Which can make getting home up a steep hill difficult [13:55] Still alive :) [13:56] Enjoying your time in the army? [13:57] just took a peek outside, it's not snowing but there's a fair bit of cloud about [13:57] g'day m1x10 [14:01] SpikeUK (~chatzilla@212.183.140.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:09] Nick change: laurence_ -> Laurenceb_ [14:11] Zuph (~bradluyst@ulsecure-belknap-24068.wireless.louisville.edu) joined #highaltitude. [14:13] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:15] Darkside (~Darkside@hpavc/darkside) joined #highaltitude. [14:20] enjoying army is a bit awkward :) [14:20] Depends if you're that way inclinde. [14:23] im neutral with army [14:24] I just struggle so I dont get punished [14:26] 2 days ago I was in the service of guarding the guns [14:26] and i counted 1 less weapon [14:26] I said it to my lieutenant [14:26] and he started screaming [14:27] I can imagine. [14:27] then I counted again and found the number ok [14:27] Oops. [14:27] he shouted open your eyes and learn to count [14:27] it was 4 o clock at nigr [14:27] night [14:28] i was a bit sleepy [14:28] and las night I was guarding the hawk missisles :) [14:28] Don't worry about it, we all make mistakes. [14:28] Just not with weapons :-) [14:32] micronaut (m1x10@ppp089210098111.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [14:32] [16:31] the funny staff is that when i had the camp patrol service, a couple of dogs were accompannied me [14:32] [16:32] they followed me for 3 hours ! [14:33] m1x10 (m1x10@79.167.234.172) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:41] That's enough work for one week. Time for home and some lunch. [14:49] GW8RAK: good thinking [14:49] maybe a sherry to go with [14:49] it's been reclaimed from grannies - it's just the thing in weather like this (unless you want to go straight for the hard stuff so early in the afternoon!) [14:50] A bit early for sherry! [14:50] Actually, I was thinking of the hard stuff come 5 o'clock [14:50] micronaut (m1x10@ppp089210098111.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:50] Just last minute jobs then off. [14:50] if you rationalise it as 'the end of the working week' rather than '6pm' then all is justified and well :) [14:51] I can rationalise anything except falling over :-) [14:51] MoALTz_ (~no@92.20.24.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:51] :) [14:53] emails and pricing spreadsheet sent home, so I'll adjourn to there I think and finish off. [14:53] ttfn [14:54] GW8RAK (569aa57c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.154.165.124) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:56] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210131211.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:00] Zuph (~bradluyst@ulsecure-belknap-24068.wireless.louisville.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:08] MoALTz (~no@92.20.24.127) joined #highaltitude. [15:11] I'm tired ! [15:19] this weather is getting tedious - my yagi has been stuck in a depot somewhere in nottinghamshire for 4 days now :( [15:22] Zuph (~bradluyst@lutz310-02.loutz.louisville.edu) joined #highaltitude. [15:23] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210131211.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:25] p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cSxEqKQ78 [15:28] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210174025.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K75ZnxR66Uo&feature=player_detailpage#t=148s [15:32] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@78.144.82.119) joined #highaltitude. [15:32] doh [15:35] fsphil: http://www.cutedigi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4480&osCsid=be4149d698d155b3ba9481d87c2d6138 [15:36] those guys are cheating [15:37] I send them a mail sometime ago that they dont have ab automatic light sensor so it can turn on/off the IR leds [15:37] and now they build it [15:37] they build my ideas :) [15:42] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210174025.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:42] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@78.144.82.119) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:47] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210134015.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [15:51] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:53] mazzanet (~mazzanet@fe1-1.mel-ii.bdr1.mazzanet.id.au) joined #highaltitude. [15:53] mazzanet (~mazzanet@fe1-1.mel-ii.bdr1.mazzanet.id.au) left irc: Changing host [15:53] mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) joined #highaltitude. [15:58] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. 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[16:53] "between December 7th and 9th" [16:53] they're being cagey about the exact plans [16:53] russss: I disagree [16:53] russss: I have a stream that is less exciting. [16:53] ah [16:53] russss: It's a live feed from my electricity meter cupboard. [16:53] well, least exciting stream featuring a rocket. [16:53] wow, that is unexciting [16:54] It feeds a bastard awk+gnuplot+... script to generate realtime power-use graphs. [17:12] can someone tell me how to do rounding in python? [17:12] or more accurately - i have a variably foo i need to round to the nearest bar [17:12] e.g. round 17 to the nearest step of 3 [17:19] round(17.5/3)*3 ? [17:20] note that if you do integer / integer the result will be truncated (iirc) [17:21] >>> 17/3 [17:21] 5 [17:21] >>> float(17)/3 [17:21] 5.666666666666667 [17:21] >>> 17/3.0 [17:21] 5.666666666666667 [17:22] hmm actually... not quite sure what i need to do here [17:23] from __future__ import division [17:23] will make division return a float [17:24] http://pastebin.com/Pv9ZbeDM [17:25] start_freq is a frequency i know the pll can make [17:25] the pll can make any frequency an interger number of pll_step amounts away from that [17:26] i want to get as close as possible to dial_freq [17:26] is there a better wya than that? [17:27] oh it also needs if((dial_freq-start_freq)%pll_step but % wont give -ives :( [17:29] frequency=(pll_step*round((dial_freq-start_freq)/pll_step+0.5))+start_freq [17:31] fsphil|m (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:219:d2ff:fe09:a6b9) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:41] DagoRed (~dago@j15-1.nat.iastate.edu) joined #highaltitude. [17:47] is this python? [17:47] if you're using python 3.x then use // [17:47] for to integer division [17:47] ... and i totally miss the point of this conversation. sorry. [17:48] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:52] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-82-26-114-167.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:56] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) joined #highaltitude. [17:57] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210071146.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:58] spacex webcast is buffering to hell [17:58] thankfully nasa tv is webcasting the actual launch [18:02] m1x10 (m1x10@ppp089210065121.dsl.hol.gr) joined #highaltitude. [18:11] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [18:12] UAV video of NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cSxEqKQ78 [18:12] micronaut (m1x10@79.167.235.226) joined #highaltitude. 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[20:06] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:222:43ff:fe7b:5372) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:15] micronaut (m1x10@79.167.235.226) left irc: Quit: If you run you only gonna die tired [20:17] Jasperw (~jasperw@2001:470:92f1:0:222:43ff:fe7b:5372) joined #highaltitude. [20:20] MoALTz_ (~no@92.20.24.127) joined #highaltitude. [20:23] MoALTz (~no@92.20.24.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:31] http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:chipcon_cc1020_software_define_radio [20:31] ^ got it retuning properly now - just needs active ant support now really [20:34] MoALTz (~no@92.20.24.127) joined #highaltitude. [20:35] nice Laurenceb [20:38] MoALTz_ (~no@92.20.24.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:56] :) [21:07] junderwood (~John@adsl.jcu.me.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:18] borism (~boris@ec2-79-125-58-77.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) left irc: Quit: Changing server [21:21] SiC` (~SiC@5ad10a5a.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude. [21:21] Nick change: SiC` -> sic [21:24] borism (~boris@ec2-79-125-58-77.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:00] juxta (juxta@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:02] 70cm band is dead :( [22:03] guess thats what we want for hab [22:03] nothing interesting across the entire band [22:04] http://www.antetec.com/news/2010/02/01-377.html <- interesting [22:07] nv1k (~madEngine@173-17-187-159.client.mchsi.com) joined #highaltitude. [22:12] Laurenceb_: LoS is a blessing, right? [22:12] yes [22:13] but i was reading about signal attenuation in urban environments [22:13] it seemed to suggest the CUED rooftop site might see a ~5dB loss at low elevations over central cam [22:14] i can well beleive that [22:14] due to scattering off buildings - youd apparently see better signal in a field [22:14] when we did the ISS contact with parkside school we had really bad attenuation (lower than expected) at low elevation [22:15] didn't aquire a reliable link until about 20 degrees elevation which is very high comparesd to usual, apparently [22:17] hopefully if the coutry unfreezes ill be able to get a active ant yagi ready for the next launch [22:17] *country [22:17] active in the electrical sense? [22:17] yes, inbuilt lna with 3.3v down the coax [22:18] 25 free samples from RFMD, I was very impressed [22:30] http://gb.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/L3G4200D/ <-nice, if they ever get it in stock [22:37] gb73d (gb73d@79-79-128-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Quit: Whoosh we're gone [23:04] sic (~SiC@5ad10a5a.bb.sky.com) left irc: [23:08] Laurenceb_: We use the 70cm band for our stuff because it's virtually untouched. Our back up stuff uses the national APRS frequency and beacons at much lower intervals to keep from pissing a lot people off. [23:21] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [23:22] Lunar_Lander (~lunar_lan@p54882CD2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #highaltitude. [23:22] hello [23:28] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:30] sic (~SiC@5ad10a5a.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude. 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