[00:05] if theyve found a "shadow biosphere" thatll be massive news [00:05] bbl [00:11] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:12] juxta_ (~blah@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [00:15] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [00:19] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Client Quit [00:22] DagoRed (~dago@j15-1.nat.iastate.edu) left irc: Quit: food [00:25] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [00:42] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Quit: bigboom [00:54] DagoRed (~dago@ics129-198.icsincorporated.com) joined #highaltitude. [01:00] juxta_ (~blah@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:42] Nick change: Tvilling -> StrayVoltage [02:09] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [02:57] nv1k (~madEngine@173-26-204-56.client.mchsi.com) joined #highaltitude. 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[06:05] yeah, it can't make up it's mind [06:06] so Darkside and i are going to give a talk about horus at linux.conf.au in jan [06:06] yeah, he mentioned - awesome :) [06:06] did you get a chance to read the email i sent today? [06:07] hadn't looket yet, but now i see it [06:07] ok. it's a little long. would you prefer a summary, or do you have time to read it now? [06:08] just read it - awesome :) [06:08] cool. thats the reaction i was hoping for :) [06:09] hehe [06:09] so that thread had progressed today, and the guys are keen to get their hands on the NUT schematics. how do you feel about putting them online? [06:09] s/had/has/ [06:09] yep, I'm happy to do that [06:09] will you be online tonight? [06:09] cool [06:10] ive got basketball at 6 [06:10] but i'll be on apart from that hour or so [06:10] okay great [06:10] lets discuss it further then [06:10] sweet [06:10] i need to go buy some taps [06:10] and finish the irrigation [06:10] woohoo [06:10] :) enjoy [06:11] i burried 35m of 7 core cable today under bricks and gardenbeds [06:11] i really hope it doesnt degrade in the ground and make me rip everything back out again [06:12] ! [06:12] what is the cabling for? [06:12] irrigation solenoid valves [06:12] okay. it's just plastic coated? [06:12] yeah [06:12] they sell it as garden safe [06:13] as in safe to be burried directly in the ground [06:13] hopefully that's actually the case and it doesnt get all messed up [06:14] yeah. should be okay, as long as there's no cracks in it. [06:14] does the current board you use have a SD header on it? [06:15] yes, but it's a bad idea [06:15] oh? [06:15] im going to move the SD back onto the board [06:15] oh, so it has a header that attaches to an external SD slot? [06:15] but you're going back to slot on the board [06:16] with the sd card on a breakout and a longish ribbon wire back to the main board, things go bad - RF gets into the cable [06:16] yep [06:16] i've gotta run for now so I can finish this before it gets dark, but I'll catchya tonight and give you the full story then ;) [06:17] okay, sounds good [06:50] DagoRed (~dago@ics129-198.icsincorporated.com) left irc: Quit: sleep [07:03] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [07:04] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:16] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:18] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) joined #highaltitude. [07:26] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. 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[09:50] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-79.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:13] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:15] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [10:18] KingJ (~KingJ-FN@95.154.197.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:25] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-79.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [10:25] KingJ (~KingJ-FN@95.154.197.17) joined #highaltitude. [10:27] yo KingJ [10:27] Hey [10:27] snow in soton? [10:27] I'm not at soton, try Bath ; [10:28] oh yes... hmm wonder why I thought you were at soton [10:28] anyway [10:28] snow in bath? [10:28] Indeed. Just as the previous fall from last week had melted we got a fresh fall overnight [10:28] :) [10:29] What about you? [10:29] snowing a tiny bit in cam [10:29] ground is still white from when it snowed a couple of days ago [10:29] havent had much since then though [10:29] also brrrrr [10:29] that too [10:30] Temperatures here have not gone above freezing at all this week [10:30] hehe [11:04] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [11:24] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [12:07] fsphil (540cf08a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.12.240.138) joined #highaltitude. [12:07] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-79.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630] [12:11] Laurenceb_ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:11] laurence__ (~laurence@host86-140-94-108.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [12:13] KingJ (~KingJ-FN@95.154.197.17) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:35] stilldave (~irchon@93.158.36.53) joined #highaltitude. [12:36] Jasperw (~jasperw@93.89.81.29) joined #highaltitude. [12:39] stilldave (~irchon@93.158.36.53) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:48] woo, the caa are on fire - notam received earlier than expected :) [12:51] good lord [12:51] don't think that's ever happened before [12:51] :o [12:52] how much did you put in with the application? >.> [12:53] haha [12:54] I guess with all the snow and flight delays, he had some spare time [12:58] lets hope BOC and the weather behave themselves this time [13:00] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:00] when are you launching fsphil ? [13:01] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude. [13:01] either 11/12th weekend, or the next [13:01] cool :D [13:03] looking forward to it :) most of the work is done now [13:04] and I'll try to get the helium this weekend, instead of leaving it to the last minute like last time [13:14] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-154-166-79.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude. [13:14] Nick change: laurence__ -> Laurenceb_ [13:25] dspstv (alejoo@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-xwcjutqsfnscamjy) joined #highaltitude. [13:27] Jasperw (~jasperw@93.89.81.29) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:42] Jasperw (~jasperw@93.89.81.29) joined #highaltitude. [13:46] Interesting. [13:46] I'm expecting power cuts. [13:46] So I've turned my freezer onto 'boost' to increase autonomy [13:46] It's down at under -41C [13:47] and dropping [13:47] eek [13:47] that's very cold [13:47] yes [13:47] let me know when it starts freezing CO2 [13:47] :P [13:47] http://www.appliancesonline.co.uk/product/RCNAA53P-Hotpoint-Chest-Freezer-White-14752.aspx [13:52] thats interesting [13:53] i only managed to get to -30 with a peltier [13:53] theoretically you can practically get to -100C with stacked peltiers [13:53] but you need a decent power suppl [13:54] s/decent/insane/ [13:54] also an insane heatsink [13:55] I've given up on the peltier idea. I'm thinking about trying to build a sterling engine capable of chilling down that low [13:56] because apparently that's how small laboratory cryocoolers work. [13:56] also stirling engines are awesome [13:56] -35C to -78 isn't that scary [13:56] with peltier [13:56] could do a stirling/peltier combo [13:57] mind you, if you can get to -40 with a domestic freezer then that's a fair way there [13:58] dunno what the wattage of the refrigeration system in a freezer is though [13:58] 80w [13:58] that's surprisingly low [13:58] yes. [13:59] I think they tend to be a good deal more efficient than peltiers though [13:59] I bought it specifically for the low power use. [13:59] how many joules do you need to make one litre of liquid air, I wonder (but I'm too lazy to do the maths) [14:01] definitely too lazy to do it for air. just nitrogen out of air would be easier [14:01] chris_99 (~chris_99@87.114.103.49) joined #highaltitude. [14:01] chris_99 (~chris_99@87.114.103.49) left irc: Changing host [14:01] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. [14:01] you can't easily just take nitrogen out of air though [14:02] because it magically changes into LO2 as it warms up [14:02] indeed. it's slightly awkward maths [14:02] condenses the O2 out of the air as the N2 evaporates [14:03] apparently you can get filters to get only N2 from compressed air [14:11] juxta (Bogaurd@ppp203-122-193-94.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:11] shipit (~sumeet@c-67-180-23-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:13] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:15] gm (~gm@ppp241-139.static.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:26] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:26] chris_99 (~chris_99@87.114.103.49) joined #highaltitude. [14:26] chris_99 (~chris_99@87.114.103.49) left irc: Changing host [14:26] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude. 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[18:39] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-82-26-114-167.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630] [18:46] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:01] major disappointment for some coming on nasa tv [19:01] jasonb (~jasonb@12.201.129.162) joined #highaltitude. [19:02] shipit (~sumeet@173.164.226.91) joined #highaltitude. [19:02] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) left irc: Quit: Changing host [19:04] Elwell (~elwell@freenode/staff/elwell) joined #highaltitude. [19:06] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [19:08] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-tv-hd#utm_campaign=flive&utm_source=1&utm_medium=technology-science [19:08] Laurenceb: What do you mean? [19:08] lots of idiots waying theyd found life on titan etc [19:09] How is that lame? [19:44] nasa tv actually works [19:45] why dodnt other people ditch flash [19:55] hmm [19:56] IIRC As is a bit more common than P? [19:56] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:56] so shes ironlisa [19:57] lol [19:57] Which raises the carrying capacity of the solar system, before you need to go to extreme measures, lie mining the gas giants [19:57] like [19:57] yes, shes like so ironlisa [19:57] oh my goood [19:57] http://www.ironlisa.com/ [19:57] Can't watch - too slow [19:58] http://www.ironlisa.com/music/ lol [19:59] Lot more time for people that do constructive shit - even badly - than people that do nothing, and think only of the TV show of the week. [20:00] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:00] press conference finito [20:01] tl;dr - dna based on arsenic [20:02] How the fuck do you evolve DNA based on arsenic though. [20:02] From one based on P [20:03] creationism [20:03] well - they havent sequaenced the dna - just mass spectrometer on cultures of it [20:04] so they arent sure atm, but they think its based on dna and evolved from regular bugs [20:04] aiui [20:06] Yeah - it's just one of those wacky jumps. [20:11] Nick change: DagoRed -> kd0mto [20:28] Zuph (~bradluyst@69.64.6.70) joined #highaltitude. [20:33] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-82-26-114-167.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [20:48] shipit (~sumeet@173.164.226.91) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] http://wrgpmusic.no-ip.org/cheese/Science-2007-Perlo-1110-2.pdf [20:51] interesting [20:52] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) joined #highaltitude. [20:56] Nick change: kd0mto -> DagoRed [20:56] fsphil (~phil@2001:8b0:34:1:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude. [21:18] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@client-82-26-114-167.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHRCnpcsDQ&feature=player_embedded#! [21:30] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:33] smooth [21:38] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [21:39] shipit (~sumeet@c-71-202-16-205.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude. [21:40] the algorithm is really lame [21:40] but its seems to work fairly decently [21:40] id be interested to see how it handles prolonged heavy accel [21:52] Gnea (~gnea@unaffiliated/gnea) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:05] shipit (~sumeet@c-71-202-16-205.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:41] DagoRed (~dago@m70-m78-m79-1.nat.iastate.edu) left irc: Quit: back to campus [23:10] KingJ (~KingJ-FN@95.154.197.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:10] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude. [23:12] KingJ (~KingJ-FN@95.154.197.17) joined #highaltitude. [23:13] evening all [23:15] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [23:16] evening jcoxon [23:18] Action: LazyLeopard made a somewhat crazy day-trip to Cambridge yesterday to take the Intermediate exam. [23:18] hehe - sucess? [23:20] Yep, and rumour has it that jonsowman was also successful this evening. [23:20] great [23:20] i like my foundation licence callsign [23:21] indeed :) [23:21] Mine too. [23:21] Congratulations ;) [23:21] I didn't know it was you who took the exam in cam yesterday :) [23:21] you too :) [23:22] Ah. The trouble with random nicknames, I guess... ;) [23:22] There were a couple of actual students taking the exam yesterday, too. [23:23] They also passed. [23:24] The Orpington-London Bridge legs of my day-trip were... interesting... [23:28] jcoxon (~jcoxon@cpc1-lanc4-0-0-cust720.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:40] Time for sleep... G'night. [23:40] shipit (~sumeet@173-164-226-91-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined #highaltitude. [23:41] night LazyLeopard [23:41] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Bye [00:00] --- Fri Dec 3 2010