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[12:41] Action: jcoxon twiddles his thumbs as he waits for the gumstix build environment to build again [12:41] task 583 out of 1279 [12:41] aarrgghh [12:41] jcoxon - making the most of your freedom now? [12:44] indeed [12:44] jcoxon: Oh - another advantage of AVR/..., I forgot to mention. [12:44] 'Does not take weeks to build' [12:44] :) [12:44] hehe - that said once its compiled I can make a SSTV payload super fast [12:45] True [12:46] do people think it would be helpful to have zeusbot be able to access twitter stream [12:46] before a launch could get it to follow the person who is launching's account [12:46] to make an easy way for updates to get through to the channel [12:46] jcoxon, was thinking of that myself a few days ago [12:46] jcoxon, would be super easy [12:47] yeah they have a good api [12:47] forex: curl http://stream.twitter.com/1/statuses/filter.json -uuser:pw -d "track=#hab" [12:47] + json parse [12:47] oh wow [12:47] that easy [12:48] yeah then you just grab one of the premade json parsers [12:48] actually there are some twitter libraries out there too [12:49] jcoxon, zeusbot is eggdrop & tcl right? [12:49] uhuh [12:49] I wonder what this conversation is all about? You've lost me totally. :) [12:49] But an SSTV payload would be nice [12:49] 1 result found. Listing results 1 to 1. [12:49] twitter.tcl [12:49] jcoxon, ^^ [12:50] DanielRichman, perfect [12:50] GW8RAK, hehe we are talking about zeusbot - the channel bot who does teh logging [12:50] adding twitter stream features [12:51] I'll just accept your word for it. Otherwise I may go off down an interesting route which just takes me away from the payload project. [12:51] jcoxon, it's not a perfect script, could do with some modding [12:52] (doing a quick wiki search for "bot") [12:52] jcoxon, that script seems to poll the api every x seconds rather than use the streaming api [12:54] GW8RAK, the bot just keeps the channel open (if we were all to quit) and logs everything we say to http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/zeusbot/ [12:54] you can add more features as it just runs scripts [12:55] Found that bot stands for robot, hence understand what it is and what it can do. I hope everyone had a good laugh at my ignorance. :) [12:58] But the good news here is that the payload software seems to be coming on well so I can hopefully get the tx module out and start interfacing to that. [12:58] GW8RAK, great [12:58] its nice when it all comes together [12:59] There's been a few problems with making it fit the UKHAS data format, but particularly in the variable length altittude [12:59] ooops. altitude field. [12:59] oh UKHAS is not a fixed variable length format [12:59] it can cope with variations [13:00] If I chose the easy way of conforming to the format, it made the altitude bit harder, while if I used the easiest altitude bit, it made other bits harder. [13:00] Ooops. Perhaps I should have asked first. [13:00] :-D [13:00] So does it just count commas and work out which field is which? [13:00] we should pehaps distinctly add that to the description [13:00] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. [13:00] GW8RAK, yes [13:01] Right, well in that case, the software is almost finished! [13:01] it tests the variables, such as checking that latitude is a decimal [13:01] and can have minimum and maximum variable lengths defined [13:02] With my gps module, all the other relevant fields are fixed length, while the altitude one just reports useable data and doesn't have leading zeroes. [13:02] as each payload has its own xml it can be varied appropriately [13:04] I noticed in the description, that it can be varied, but since that involves work for someone else, I thought I'd better stick to the published format. [13:04] oh its vary easy work - don't worry about that [13:05] once you've got the payload working just send either myself or Rob Harrison an email with a sample telemetry string and if possible a wav file recording and we'll set everything up [13:05] DanielRichman, http://www.summercat.com/2010/05/oauth-for-eggdrop-twitter-script.html [13:06] Thanks. I'll have a look at it tonight and see what effects this has on it. Not much I don't think. [13:12] jcoxon, thinking about your gumstix. Since they run linux, could fldigi or other software be installed and automated to rx and tx information? [13:13] I'm thinking of SSTV or for use as a flying repeater. [13:13] indeed you could [13:13] something like this http://www.ele.uva.es/~jesus/rtty/ [13:13] rather than fldigi [13:14] Initially, I was quite interested in the gumstix as a flight computer, but I'm not a software person, and it all seemed to get very complicated, very quickly. [13:14] its not a 'great' platform [13:14] and its not cheap [13:15] I was just taken with the small size. [13:15] they are tiny! [13:15] bifferboard is as small, and much, much cheaper [13:15] Also lots less capable though [13:15] morning [13:16] morning earthshine [13:16] That is always the limitation. I really need something either very simple, such as the Picaxe chips, or something which has a user interface. [13:16] not been on here for a while - busy as heck lately [13:16] signed a contract with Apress to produce an Arduino book so have been busy with that [13:16] GW8RAK, ballooning is a step by step hobby [13:17] earthshine, that sounds great - perhaps a hab project in there :-p [13:17] Absolutely. That is how I've been going about it, but I'm easily distracted by new toys. [13:17] I've got 3 radio projects on the go at present plus the balloon. [13:17] But I'm getting fed up with repeater building. [13:18] I think HAB would be a book in itself [13:18] there is a hab book for parallax chips i think [13:18] That is available as a download [13:18] http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_nearspace.asp [13:20] link doesnt work [13:20] http://www.parallax.com/tabid/567/Default.aspx [13:21] cool thanks [13:33] 990/1279 - getting there... [13:34] jcoxon, re: twitter bot, ideally you want something that uses the streaming api rather than the alternative [13:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRTALJp8DM [13:41] DanielRichman, those quadcopters are ridiculous [13:41] I know :P [13:41] I think they had tonnes of cameras on the surrounding walls to help the quadrotors with their navigation though [13:41] but it's still impressive [13:50] Stunning [13:52] I wonder if it can break away from the velcro? [13:58] its complete! [14:04] :o [14:28] juxta_ (blah@ppp59-167-14-41.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude. [14:33] N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:57] juxta_ (blah@ppp59-167-14-41.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:05] hooray - gumstix reflashed [15:07] :o nice [15:08] why do you have to build your own environment... why don't gumstix provide one? 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[16:19] jasonb_ (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:20] natrium42 (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #highaltitude. [16:32] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie ! [16:34] jasonb (~jasonb@m450536d0.tmodns.net) joined #highaltitude. [16:49] Nick change: brennen|beer -> brennen [17:07] no more beer? :) [17:07] i'm back to the coffee end of the cycle. :) [17:08] GW8RAK (~chatzilla@host86-134-243-39.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:09] hehe [17:09] same here [17:10] jasonb (~jasonb@m450536d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:13] natrium42 (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:22] Im curious about dl-fldigi. I decodes the signal on 70cm, but what do you use to transmit? (besides the radio) what kind of packet it is? ax.25 or aprs? [17:22] It's a FM FSK signal [17:23] http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide [17:23] 50 baud rtty [17:23] well - ascii really [17:23] ty, looking for good alternatives to aprs for telemetry. [17:43] jcoxon, [17:44] wooohooo [17:44] gumstix just took a picture :-p [17:44] jcoxon, that JPEG Camera [17:44] jcoxon, this one: http://www.active-robots.com/products/sensors/sparkfun/jpeg-colour-camera-uart-interface.shtml [17:44] jcoxon, can you get data from it in RAW, as well as JPEG? [17:44] yup [17:44] apparently [17:45] ok coo [17:45] have a look at the manual though [17:45] and also: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=17119 [17:46] actually here is my list of links: http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/missions:pegasus7#links [17:46] most are about the c328 though some are gumstix related [17:49] jasonb (~jasonb@dsl092-009-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #highaltitude. [17:49] ok [17:51] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude. 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