[00:11] X-Art-X (n=bmar8190@CPE-58-165-78-207.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [00:11] yansa (n=yans@87-205-162-141.adsl.inetia.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:12] Hi, Altitude :) [00:31] Hi! [00:40] One at a time please! [00:40] Sorry I was on a forum. [00:41] akawaka, are you the sound that Pacman makes? [00:41] Have you sent a balloon with expensive equipment into the sky? [00:43] I've got more money than I need, so I'd like to send an embedded computer, GPS, [00:43] Mobile phone, and camera, into the sky, and above the clouds :) [00:44] sent about $500-600 worth up [00:44] Did you retrieve it? [00:44] Or did a farmer throw it in the bin :D [00:49] retrieve it [00:49] http://www.boredgamedeveloper.com/high_altitude/index.php/1_-_Pong [00:50] I'll take a look. [00:50] I have most of mine sorted. I want to use a Sony Playstation Portable as [00:51] the brains of the operation. Can already communicate with a GPS, and a Camera. [00:51] I just got the mobile phone sorted last night. [00:51] Just missing a means of long range communication in case the mobile phone loses signal. [00:52] http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=g0kr7hbN744 <- GPS demo [00:52] http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qIY_eQoFQ <- Infrared control of Pentax Camera Demo [00:53] hmm, infrared control, that's an interesting idea [00:53] natrium42: yeah, looked into that [00:53] X-Art-X: the cell phone is not going to work at altitude [00:56] Action: natrium42 decides to do a clean install of ubuntu hardy :/ [00:56] X-Art-X: how would you read the gps with the psp? [00:56] it has a serial port [00:57] sending a psp up will get you a lot of publicity :) [00:57] heh [00:57] didn't realise it had a serial port [00:57] it's where the headphones plug in [00:57] thought about using a ds [00:57] ds has spi, but not uart... [00:58] but you can use bit banging technique to read gps [00:58] yeah [00:58] have you done any PSP dev? or just PS3? [00:59] Hang on a sec. [00:59] ps2, gc, xbox, wii, 360 and ps3 [00:59] no handhelds [00:59] I was looking at your pictures [00:59] aah, wow [00:59] many consoles :) [00:59] yeah, well its my day job:) [01:00] The PSP has a serial port. [01:00] X-Art-X, is your name Art Vandelay? :P [01:00] haha [01:00] Yes, but not really ;) [01:00] It's Venderlet, get it right! [01:00] XD [01:01] Don't know which mssgs are talking to me. [01:01] I'm a PSP dev. [01:01] and pic micros. [01:01] Sometimes used both together. [01:01] Like this time. [01:01] good idea [01:02] What happend to your camera [01:02] ? [01:02] battery died i think [01:02] To stop it taking photos at 20,000? [01:02] ok [01:02] I'm using a lithium pack for all devices including the PSP. [01:03] I know the phone won't have many chances to call. [01:03] yeah, we were stupid with the camera batteries [01:03] Still looking for a long range communication device. [01:03] AA e2 energizers seem to be the batteries of choice for ballooning [01:03] lol. [01:03] X-Art-X: you could buy a 900mhz radio modem [01:03] or get your ham license [01:04] There are lithium Energisers $12 AU foir a pack of two. [01:04] The e2's have a good power to weight ratio [01:04] Ah, ok. [01:04] I might have to look at a radio modem. [01:04] i bought 80 of them on ebay:) [01:05] natrium42 used one [01:05] 80 radio modems? :D 80 Batteries! [01:05] not sure what the radio restrictions are like in au, probably like the uk [01:05] unfortunately not with a yagi antenna [01:05] batteries!:) [01:05] You got a site natrium? [01:05] natrium42.com/halo [01:06] I'll take a look. [01:06] Here's mine: [01:06] http://www.freewebs.com/defxev/ [01:06] No balooning yet, but soon! [01:06] excellent :) [01:07] Lol @ natrium! [01:07] Where have I seen that site before? [01:07] YOu were they guy that put me onto this chatroom. [01:07] i need to squeeze a pic based sample player inside of a tiny little figurine for my girl [01:07] easy. [01:08] X-Art-X, hehe, welcome aboard [01:08] To you want it to scare the hell out of her? [01:08] X-Art-X: what are you using for memory? [01:08] are there any other sites with photos? [01:08] oops [01:08] for the sample player? [01:09] 24LC256 EEPROM [01:09] yeah [01:09] That plays about four times the length of what you hear in the demos. [01:10] You can use many of them on an I2C bus though [01:10] $5 each in Australia. [01:11]

are there any other sites with photos? <-- check wiki.ukhas.org.uk [01:11] using pwm for the audio? [01:11] cuspaceflight.co.uk [01:11] about > pictures [01:11] (shameless plug) [01:12] using pwm for the audio? <- No, it's like a 1 bit digital stream. [01:12] I give the card to Mum tomorrow! [01:12] :D [01:13] The talking one. [01:13] Having a look at pics edmoore [01:14] we have quite a few more, and vids, that should really be put up there. I'll get the web person to stick them up [01:14] http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/photocomp/index_08.shtml [01:16] hello ed [01:16] hows things? [01:17] not bad, tho I'm about to bed [01:17] yay [01:17] how was supper? [01:17] finished exams :D:D:D [01:17] good :) [01:17] I didn't realise the grass by the millpond seems to attract all of cambridge's underage drinkers [01:17] heh [01:17] seems so [01:18] Tigga: good for you :p i still have 3 weeks before mine start [01:18] lazy git [01:18] right, bed [01:18] g'night [01:18] night [01:18] night [01:18] will have to meet for a chat this w/e [01:19] yup [01:19] edmoore (n=edmoore@pomegranate.chu.cam.ac.uk) left irc: [01:19] Any suggestions for particular models of radio modem? [01:19] Do you just start talking RS232 to it? [01:19] ans recieve RS232 at the other end? [01:20] http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/dsheets/uhx1.pdf [01:21] thanks. [01:21] anyone know about potting compounds for RF stuff? [01:21] furan (i=ianhan@synapse.furanlabz.net) joined #highaltitude. [01:22] \\o/ furan [01:22] anyone know of a good website for finding the closest wind station/balloon launch site to a certain set of coords [01:22] howdy [01:23] furan's group is launching a balloon with glider this weekend [01:23] http://www.hackerbotlabs.com/ [01:23] awesome [01:24] 2 balloons, one with glider [01:24] looking at www.stormchaser.niu.edu/upper.txgt [01:24] .txt even [01:24] trying to find something closer to 47.6853, -119.5137 [01:25] hey natrium where was your site with results [01:25] are you over the weight limit? [01:25] natrium42.com/halo [01:25] I don't think so [01:25] I just got involved last night out of coincidence of wanting to check out a hacker space and they sucked me in [01:25] super fun though [01:26] they can only drop the glider from 400 or so feet due to faa regs [01:27] in canada, you can launch without permission if you keep helium volume down to 115 cu ft [01:27] huh [01:27] hacker space? [01:27] lots of geeks with tools and ideas [01:28] some kind of local workshop? [01:28] sort of yeah [01:28] not public [01:28] gotta find me something like that in la [01:32] anywho any ideas as to a better site for atmospheric sounding lookup close to a location? [01:33] http://nearspaceventures.com/w3Baltrak/htdocs/stationlist.html [01:33] ? [01:33] i didn't see any big difference between sites within 100 miles of each other [01:34] hmm [01:34] EAT looks great [01:34] Action: Laurenceb is wasted [01:36] glider? [01:38] I'm off guys, thanks for the welcome, [01:38] Will definitely be back when I get the phone and radio stuff better developed [01:38] or before :) [01:38] X-Art-X (n=bmar8190@CPE-58-165-78-207.qld.bigpond.net.au) left #highaltitude. [01:39] furan, the elphel cam looks interesting [01:41] i have been using older canons for remote capture capability over usb [01:42] how old do they have to be [01:43] about one year [01:44] http://rafb.net/p/zmA2N482.html [01:45] Canon PowerShot S80 is nice (wide angle lens) [01:45] oh, btw, that list is for all supported hi-speed usb 2.0 cameras [01:46] older usb 1.1 cameras also work [01:48] wow these guys look pretty serious [01:49] bbl [01:50] natrium42 (n=alexei@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "pwned!" [01:53] theres no info on their IMU code :( [01:54] Tigga (n=chatzill@pc-232-235-60.magd.cam.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:57] Action: Laurenceb bed [01:57] Laurenceb (n=laurence@dhcp37-133.sthughs.ox.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:13] akawaka (n=akawaka@external.treyarch.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] akawaka (n=akawaka@cpe-76-173-152-142.socal.res.rr.com) joined #highaltitude. [06:41] Simon-MPFH (n=simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude. [08:26] mogwie (i=_johan_@cpe-24-24-211-18.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] mogwie (i=_johan_@cpe-24-24-211-18.socal.res.rr.com) joined #highaltitude. [08:34] edmoore (n=edmoore@pomegranate.chu.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [09:07] Tigga (n=chatzill@pc-232-235-60.magd.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [09:13] jcoxon (n=jcoxon@80.88.222.59) joined #highaltitude. [09:14] morning edmoore [09:14] morning jcoxon! [09:14] how's it going? [09:14] good thanks, i have to go to our common room to get wifi reception though [09:14] wow, looking at the logs it was a busy night chatting [09:15] yeah I came to it after it was all over [09:15] but yeah, impressive [09:15] natrium netted another punter with his website [09:15] :-) [09:16] when are the exams? [09:16] june 2nd [09:16] untill 6th [09:16] then freedom [09:18] yep! [09:18] a summer of hardcore engineering [09:18] haha [09:18] are you working then? [09:18] this summer that is [09:19] I'm working for Vorticity this summer [09:19] but also doing a lot of balloons [09:19] and rockets [09:19] cool [09:19] i'm stuck here till august [09:19] then exams [09:19] then about 4 weeks off [09:19] aaaaargh [09:19] then i start again [09:19] oh that's not so bad [09:21] oooo descent systems [09:22] yep [09:22] they did huygens of cassini huygens [09:22] and various mars landers [09:22] future job? [09:23] so I'm going to glean as much info as possible on reliable parachute deployment and recovery stsems [09:23] We'll see how the summer goes! [09:23] :-) [09:24] i'm tempted for my elective next year to go and work for NASA [09:25] what's an elective? [09:25] where you go away for 8 weeks to do stuff in other hospitals etc [09:25] lots of people go to africa to save the world [09:26] i'm quite tempted to do that [09:26] does it have to be medical? [09:26] yup [09:26] it would be in their medical team [09:28] awesome :) [09:28] we need some ukhas caps [09:28] has jatkins been around recently? [09:29] indeed we do need some caps [09:29] and no he hasn't [09:29] pourquoi [09:29] ? [09:29] just wondering [09:29] hope he hasn't lost heart [09:30] i think he might have exams [09:31] poor bugger [09:32] jimbob, the design method/style of cubesats looks like it might have some applicability to balloon payload design [09:32] oh i agree [09:34] need to find a friendly laser cutter to chop up pretty bits of aluminium [09:34] how to apply them would be the question [09:34] that would be nice [09:34] well, you have 'U' units [09:35] 1U, 2U, 3U [09:35] where 1U is a 10 x 10 x 10 cube [09:35] 2U is 20 x 10 x 10 [09:35] etc etc [09:35] so it would be perhaps a way to construct trains [09:36] so people would build to a set spec [09:36] i.e. you slot your 1U block onto another one [09:36] yeah [09:36] you could have an slr camera in one block [09:36] the top one would be the parachute deployments system, cutdowns, gps antennas etc [09:36] its a bit like how doug and i are building haps-1 [09:36] the bottom one could be flight computer and radiop [09:36] we have 2 units [09:37] something to browse: http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/_media/websitestats.pdf?id=start&cache=cache [09:38] that's a really nicely produced pdf [09:38] Tigga (n=chatzill@pc-232-235-60.magd.cam.ac.uk) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.82 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]" [09:38] good old google analytics [09:38] i love the canada one [09:38] natrium flying the flag [09:38] for the palest of pale greens [09:39] what a suprise to see which sites they've been visiting [09:40] (direct) ((none)) is presumably here? [09:40] hehe [09:40] its if they've stuck the url straight in [09:40] so either through a bookmakr [09:40] or off here [09:41] i know which one I'm going for... [09:41] hehe [09:42] do you have any idea what camera doug wants to stick on? [09:42] yup [09:42] flowolf (n=flowolf@unaffiliated/flowolf) joined #highaltitude. [09:42] A550s [09:43] actually i think its 2 of them [09:43] very nice :) [09:44] i've been debating whether to have my gps log to the ram drive and then rotate the logs on to the flash [09:44] to save it from flash death [09:44] jetstream is lovely right now [09:44] however if it loses power we'd lose the last say minute of logs [09:44] yeah [09:44] well that's ok isn't it? [09:44] it's more ok than the current risk anyway [09:45] yeah i guess so [09:45] brb 1 min [09:45] np [09:50] bk [09:50] how did that take five minutes !? [09:51] so ukhas caps? [09:52] and aviators [09:52] your look convinced me [09:52] haha [09:52] and preferably a texan drawl [09:52] hehe i met a texan demolitions expert on thurs [09:52] he was a legend [09:53] :) [09:53] but yeah, caps would be cool [09:53] or cowboy hats [09:53] no cowboy hats [09:54] ok [09:54] caps [09:54] we aren't that cool [09:54] and only one person could have the cowboy hat [09:54] perhaps the launch operator [09:54] its a sign of a leader [09:55] high vis kackets [09:55] jump suits [09:55] jump suits and cowboy hats [09:55] hehe [09:56] perhaps we should start at the bottom [09:56] caps [09:56] ok [09:56] well we have a logo [09:57] which one? [09:57] ok, we need to decide on a logo then [09:58] my cap has a circular mission badge [09:58] mission badges are fun [09:58] but just a ukhas one [09:58] perhaps have EARs on it as well [10:00] I like ears [10:01] http://www.badgerbadges.co.uk/?gclid=CJaiwYHJm5MCFRaTMAoddjkCrQ [10:02] i'll do some work and whip up a UKHAS mission badge [10:03] awesome :) [10:03] ooooo i've got leopard now [10:03] i can use inkscape [10:04] it's awesome isn't it? [10:04] i'm enjoying the speed and hard drive space [10:04] i couldn't use inkscape as i didnt have X11 as i deleted it to free space [10:05] are you doing a custom linux on dual boot? [10:05] no [10:05] xquartz [10:05] no dual boots on here [10:05] h'ok [10:05] i just ssh into my linux server when i need linux stuff [10:05] oh yeah good point [10:06] though i might shut that down for a bit as i'm really not using it [10:09] oops [10:09] now i'm pushing the internet connection [10:09] too much downloading [10:09] is it complaining? [10:10] nah, just the second download is being slow [10:11] oh i'll do it another time [10:11] right i'm off [10:11] have a good day [10:11] cya [10:11] jcoxon (n=jcoxon@80.88.222.59) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] Hiena (n=Hiena@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [10:53] Hiena (n=Hiena@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) left irc: "-=Alkoholmentes-s�r �s rep�l�g�p-szimul�tor, biztos �t a gumin� fel�=-" [12:31] Simon-MPFH (n=simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:52] flowolf (n=flowolf@unaffiliated/flowolf) left irc: "Leaving" [13:08] Laurenceb (n=laurence@dhcp37-133.sthughs.ox.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [13:24] Hiena (n=Hiena@81.93.195.181.datatrans.hu) joined #highaltitude. [13:44] X-Art-X (n=bmar8190@CPE-58-165-78-207.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined #highaltitude. [13:46] furan: your from "hackerbotlabs" ? [13:49] hi X-Art-X [13:49] hi edmoore [13:49] I'll send off that sparkfun order later today [13:49] cool, ty [13:49] I'd better make up an ftdi cable [13:50] furan: the glider looks very interesting [13:50] edmoore: using dip ftdi chip or a board? [13:50] chip [13:50] bought a bunch from sf a while back for stock [13:50] neat, dip ? [13:51] soic something-or-other [13:51] 16?18? I forget [13:51] do you have a breakout board for it? [13:51] nope [13:51] hardcore :P [13:51] Hi Guys, I'm logging overnight to see what your conversations look like :D [13:51] Don't go drawing ASCII pictures in my logs now! [13:51] but dead bug and duck tape will be fine for this - it's only a handful of components [13:51] yes, I've done that a few times [13:52] X-Art-X: all the convos here are logged by zeusbot [13:52] Night nihgt :)and Artbot. [13:53] bye [13:53] cya [13:53] Action: Laurenceb gets back to revising [13:59] RocketBoy (n=grunge@217.47.75.147) joined #highaltitude. [13:59] hi Steve [13:59] avast there shipmate [13:59] thanks for the email [14:00] no probs! [14:01] oops - my daughter has just turned up BBL [14:01] cya [14:02] RocketBoy (n=grunge@217.47.75.147) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] Tigga (n=chatzill@pc-232-235-60.magd.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. [14:27] edmoore (n=edmoore@pomegranate.chu.cam.ac.uk) left irc: [14:53] flowolf (n=flowolf@unaffiliated/flowolf) joined #highaltitude. [15:39] edmoore (n=edmoore@pomegranate.chu.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude. 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[18:26] hi jcoxon [18:27] hey Laurenceb [18:27] interesting stats [18:27] yeah they are [18:27] we have visitors from all over the world :D [18:27] yup [18:29] google analytics is really cool [18:29] lots of nice graphs [18:30] how do you run it? [18:30] is it installed on phatmonkeys server? [18:30] oh there is some script embedded [18:30] the code is in the wiki template, i got him to put it in [18:31] ah [18:31] i also have it on my wiki [18:32] interesting [18:32] I'm bored :-( [18:32] do some revision [18:32] :-p [18:32] basically I'm revising a set of lecture notes that the lecturer hopes to publish as a book [18:33] i.e. its excessively verbose and littered with grammar errors [18:33]